HOW TO GET TO HEAVEN WHEN YOU DIE

[xfrodobagginsx]

You don't make sense at all. If you have faith in Christ, you will live a good Christian life.

Some people will be saved by the skin of their teeth.

1Co 3:11 ¶ For other foundation can no man lay than that is laid, which is Jesus Christ.
12 Now if any man build upon this foundation gold, silver, precious stones, wood, hay, stubble;
13 Every man's work shall be made manifest: for the day shall declare it, because it shall be revealed by fire; and the fire shall try every man's work of what sort it is. {it shall be: Gr. it is}
14 If any man's work abide which he hath built thereupon, he shall receive a reward.
15 If any man's work shall be burned, he shall suffer loss: but he himself shall be saved; yet so as by fire.

 

[meshak]

Some people will be saved by the skin of their teeth.

1Co 3:11 ¶ For other foundation can no man lay than that is laid, which is Jesus Christ.
12 Now if any man build upon this foundation gold, silver, precious stones, wood, hay, stubble;
13 Every man's work shall be made manifest: for the day shall declare it, because it shall be revealed by fire; and the fire shall try every man's work of what sort it is. {it shall be: Gr. it is}
14 If any man's work abide which he hath built thereupon, he shall receive a reward.
15 If any man's work shall be burned, he shall suffer loss: but he himself shall be saved; yet so as by fire.

There are some people cannot work but they still can be a good Christian by striving to produce fruit of spirit.

Producing fruit of spirit is the core of Christianity.

 

[xfrodobagginsx]

Yea, that's what I said.

Then you are contradicting what the Bible says. Salvation is by Grace through faith alone without works. So why are you trying to earn something that you cannot earn? Why not believe God?

 

[xfrodobagginsx]

There are some people cannot work but they still can be a good Christian by striving to produce fruit of spirit.

Producing fruit of spirit is the core of Christianity.

We can't produce the fruit of the Spirit without being born again in the first place. The fruit comes after salvation, it's not the cause. It's the result.

Created UNTO or (to do) good works, NOT because of good works:

Eph 2:10 For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them. {ordained: or, prepared}

 

[meshak]

We can't produce the fruit of the Spirit without being born again in the first place. The fruit comes after salvation, it's not the cause. It's the result.

Why you guys try so hard to spread lies about following Jesus' teaching is not so important?

This is rhetorical.

You don't have to repeat yourself.

 

[Ktoyou]

We can't produce the fruit of the Spirit without being born again in the first place. The fruit comes after salvation, it's not the cause. It's the result.

He is right!

 

[God's Truth]

We can't produce the fruit of the Spirit without being born again in the first place. The fruit comes after salvation, it's not the cause. It's the result.

Created UNTO or (to do) good works, NOT because of good works:

Eph 2:10 For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them. {ordained: or, prepared}

Obeying Jesus' words are Spirit and life. Jesus tells us how to get saved. If you do not do it then you don't get born again.

The not of works are about the works of the law; that is the purification/ceremonial works.

Not of works does not me not of obedience.

 

[God's Truth]

Eph 2:10 For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them. {ordained: or, prepared}

People misunderstand Paul in Ephesians about no works.

Read Ephesians 1:15-16.

Paul had just got through thanking the Ephesians for showing the Saints love. The Ephesians were probably very hospitable and giving to the Apostles who visited them. When we are saved, we are given the Holy Spirit. Jesus saves us for having a believing heart that is sorry for sins that we repent of doing. We then as saved people continue in God’s goodness by doing good works, good works like the Ephesians did, as they probably welcomed the Apostles into their homes, fed them, washed their feet, let them sleep there, and gave them money for their mission.

Paul lets us know that the Ephesians were not saved because the Ephesians were kind to the Apostles and other Christians! The Ephesians were not saved because they took good care of the saints when they were visited by them. Paul lets us know that those things they did are good works that we also do after we are saved, but not to be saved. No one can do works like that to get salvation, they had to believe in Jesus and repent of their sins, they had to call on the name of the Lord to save them.

The works that do not save us is the ceremonial works like circumcision and the observance of special days. The works that do not save us are the ceremonial works and merely treating someone well. We must believe and repent of our sins to be saved.

 

[glorydaz]

You don't make sense at all. If you have faith in Christ, you will live a good Christian life.

Good is a relative thing. Good in your own eyes....good compared to your cranker neighbor....good most of the time....good enough to stay out of jail....good in your behaviour but not so good in your heart?

 

[meshak]

Good is a relative thing. Good in your own eyes....good compared to your cranker neighbor....good most of the time....good enough to stay out of jail....good in your behaviour but not so good in your heart?

We will be judged accordingly. You don't have to worry, dear.

 

[marhig]

Some people will be saved by the skin of their teeth.

1Co 3:11 ¶ For other foundation can no man lay than that is laid, which is Jesus Christ.
12 Now if any man build upon this foundation gold, silver, precious stones, wood, hay, stubble;
13 Every man's work shall be made manifest: for the day shall declare it, because it shall be revealed by fire; and the fire shall try every man's work of what sort it is. {it shall be: Gr. it is}
14 If any man's work abide which he hath built thereupon, he shall receive a reward.
15 If any man's work shall be burned, he shall suffer loss: but he himself shall be saved; yet so as by fire.

If our foundation is Christ, then through him, by the power of the Spirit his life should be made manifest in us and we should become more like him. Living by the will of God and doing the works of God and producing the fruit of the Spirit.

You should be able to see the life of Christ lived out through those born of God, as they walk in the Spirit, being one with God and Christ, having love for God and always willing, showing love and compassion for others when seeing the need, and always ready to do God's will and to speak of the things of God, baring witness to the truth.

These are those who are truly born of God having their hearts changed to be more like Christs.

 

[Epoisses]

Then you are contradicting what the Bible says. Salvation is by Grace through faith alone without works. So why are you trying to earn something that you cannot earn? Why not believe God?

Please show me the post where I said that freddie big guns.

 

[xfrodobagginsx]

If our foundation is Christ, then through him, by the power of the Spirit his life should be made manifest in us and we should become more like him. Living by the will of God and doing the works of God and producing the fruit of the Spirit.

You should be able to see the life of Christ lived out through those born of God, as they walk in the Spirit, being one with God and Christ, having love for God and always willing, showing love and compassion for others when seeing the need, and always ready to do God's will and to speak of the things of God, baring witness to the truth.

These are those who are truly born of God having their hearts changed to be more like Christs.

Yes, they are supposed to obey God because they have already been saved, not in order to obtain salvation.

 

[God's Truth]

Yes, they are supposed to obey God because they have already been saved, not in order to obtain salvation.

We have to obey to get saved, and we have to obey to stay saved.

If it was as your confusion says, then why was anyone cut off so they COULDN'T be saved?

 

[xfrodobagginsx]

We have to obey to get saved, and we have to obey to stay saved.

If it was as your confusion says, then why was anyone cut off so they COULDN'T be saved?

You have to believe the Gospel to be saved. Obedience comes as the result of faith.

Ac 16:31 And they said, Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house.

 

[God's Truth]

You have to believe the Gospel to be saved. Obedience comes as the result of faith.

Ac 16:31 And they said, Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house.

Faith alone is dead. People listen to false teachers and do not even have common sense.

 

[JudgeRightly]

Faith alone is dead. People listen to false teachers and do not even have common sense.

Says the legalist.

 

[God's Truth]

Says the legalist.

How ignorant. You are trying to shame me for spurring others on to obey Jesus so that they can have power to overcome anything.

Faith alone is dead. We are taught that through out the Bible. You try to shame the truth away.

 

[Bright Raven]

How ignorant. You are trying to shame me for spurring others on to obey Jesus so that they can have power to overcome anything.

Faith alone is dead. We are taught that through out the Bible. You try to shame the truth away.

Faith Alone

Bible Verses About Justification By Faith Alone

Bible verses related to Justification By Faith Alone from the King James Version (KJV) by Relevance - Sort By Book Order


Romans 5:1 - Therefore being justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ:

Ephesians 2:8-9 - For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: [it is] the gift of God: (Read More...)

Romans 3:28 - Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith without the deeds of the law.

Galatians 2:16 - Knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law, but by the faith of Jesus Christ, even we have believed in Jesus Christ, that we might be justified by the faith of Christ, and not by the works of the law: for by the works of the law shall no flesh be justified.

Romans 4:5 - But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness.

John 5:24 - Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life.

Galatians 5:6 - For in Jesus Christ neither circumcision availeth any thing, nor uncircumcision; but faith which worketh by love.

Romans 4:1-25 - What shall we say then that Abraham our father, as pertaining to the flesh, hath found? (Read More...)

Galatians 2:21 - I do not frustrate the grace of God: for if righteousness [come] by the law, then Christ is dead in vain.

Romans 11:6 - And if by grace, then [is it] no more of works: otherwise grace is no more grace. But if [it be] of works, then is it no more grace: otherwise work is no more work.

Romans 3:20 - Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in his sight: for by the law [is] the knowledge of sin.

Ephesians 2:8 - For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: [it is] the gift of God:

Philippians 3:9 - And be found in him, not having mine own righteousness, which is of the law, but that which is through the faith of Christ, the righteousness which is of God by faith:

John 1:12 - But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, [even] to them that believe on his name:

 

[God's Truth]

Faith Alone

Bible Verses About Justification By Faith Alone

Bible verses related to Justification By Faith Alone from the King James Version (KJV) by Relevance - Sort By Book Order


Romans 5:1 - Therefore being justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ:

Ephesians 2:8-9 - For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: [it is] the gift of God: (Read More...)

Romans 3:28 - Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith without the deeds of the law.

Galatians 2:16 - Knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law, but by the faith of Jesus Christ, even we have believed in Jesus Christ, that we might be justified by the faith of Christ, and not by the works of the law: for by the works of the law shall no flesh be justified.

Romans 4:5 - But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness.

John 5:24 - Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life.

Galatians 5:6 - For in Jesus Christ neither circumcision availeth any thing, nor uncircumcision; but faith which worketh by love.

Romans 4:1-25 - What shall we say then that Abraham our father, as pertaining to the flesh, hath found? (Read More...)

Galatians 2:21 - I do not frustrate the grace of God: for if righteousness [come] by the law, then Christ is dead in vain.

Romans 11:6 - And if by grace, then [is it] no more of works: otherwise grace is no more grace. But if [it be] of works, then is it no more grace: otherwise work is no more work.

Romans 3:20 - Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in his sight: for by the law [is] the knowledge of sin.

Ephesians 2:8 - For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: [it is] the gift of God:

Philippians 3:9 - And be found in him, not having mine own righteousness, which is of the law, but that which is through the faith of Christ, the righteousness which is of God by faith:

John 1:12 - But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, [even] to them that believe on his name:

Paul is speaking of the ceremonial works. He was speaking to Gentiles who knew they were called unclean and without God because they did not do the ceremonial works.

Peter and James tries to tell you not to misunderstand Paul.

Paul was a Pharisee and knew that people had to obey the ceremonial works for over 1,600 years.

Paul is not telling anyone to be careful not to obey!!!