Grand Jury decision for Michael Brown case

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Lon

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No, but it's pretty apparent to me that fundamentalist Christians are the most consistently bizarre, non-thinking, and dishonest group of people I've ever encountered.

Which makes your involvement here on TOL a waste of both your and our time. It isn't a fact, it is your poorly biased prejudism. Some of the highest IQ's in world come from this community as any other.
 

IMJerusha

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We had a bunch of protestors show up in Cincinnati from out of town. I wouldn't be surprised if a large number of them were Oath Keepers, using this situation to support their agenda. They sent an open letter to the residents of Ferguson pushing them to protest. And I just got the biggest hoot out of this from their open letter:
"Now, it is true that television networks profit from coverage of riots. So do extremist voices, often from out of town..." Hmm....really!
 
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rexlunae

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Well I can't say I was surprised by anything that happened last night

Not a bit surprising. The news media was telling us how we were going to react for weeks leading up to it, on both sides. This whole thing is too on-script for me.

--the grand jury's decision or the reaction. Depressing state of affairs.

I can understand why black people feel like their lives aren't being treated as worth as much as everyone else. Especially as there have been a lot of high-profile cases of black teenagers shot to death in the last few years.

But this isn't Rodney King, and it isn't even Trayvon Martin. There's pretty good corroboration of the officer's description of what happened, and it's hard to see how he did anything that was unreasonable to the extent of being a crime. And if no crime occurred, the grand jury can't indict.
 

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I can understand why black people feel like their lives aren't being treated as worth as much as everyone else. Especially as there have been a lot of high-profile cases of black teenagers shot to death in the last few years.

"Understanding why" does not justify the feeling you ascribe to them.
 

annabenedetti

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Which makes your involvement here on TOL a waste of both your and our time. It isn't a fact, it is your poorly biased prejudism.

Could it be a fact that there are some bizarre, non-thinking, and dishonest Christians here? I think so, and right here on this thread.

Jose's opinion got him an infraction even though his comment followed similar ones about liberals - but I'm aware some animals are more equal than others.

Some of the highest IQ's in world come from this community as any other.
Really? In the world? I had no idea I was breathing such rarefied air. :eek:
 

Granite

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Not a bit surprising. The news media was telling us how we were going to react for weeks leading up to it, on both sides. This whole thing is too on-script for me.

Yes, the first night especially struck me as somewhat choreographed.

I can understand why black people feel like their lives aren't being treated as worth as much as everyone else.

I completely agree.

But this isn't Rodney King, and it isn't even Trayvon Martin. There's pretty good corroboration of the officer's description of what happened, and it's hard to see how he did anything that was unreasonable to the extent of being a crime. And if no crime occurred, the grand jury can't indict.

As the evidence gets picked apart I have a sinking suspicion we'll come across more and more questions. Bottom line, no one's ever going to know exactly what happened except Wilson.

And by the way: This guy's a complete PR disaster. Way to throw fuel on the fire, pal.
 

Granite

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Look up, you've been answered. Want to explain why you want to push that anyone wants police to open fire into a crowd?

So you honestly think in a situation like this "just shoot one" is a) feasible, b) likely, c) and something that will help the situation.:chuckle:

Yeah, okay then...
 

bybee

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So you honestly think in a situation like this "just shoot one" is a) feasible, b) likely, c) and something that will help the situation.:chuckle:

Yeah, okay then...

I believe that I must guard my thinking so that I do not descend to the level of brutish behavior, which I detest, in retaliation for brutish behavior.
BUT!!!
I do intend to protect myself from the brutish behavior of others to the best of my abilities.
OFTEN,
that means being proactive in planning.
 

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Well I can't say I was surprised by anything that happened last night--the grand jury's decision or the reaction. Depressing state of affairs.

The decision was just, there were three blacks on the jury & the decision was unanimous, what decision would you want to see? a lynching of this officer? It is sad this kid was shot but in the end Brown brought it on himself bringing violence towards a police officer...end of story.

Our idiot liberal democrat leadership claimed they didn't see it coming at all.

They not only saw it coming but, incited the current violence, and want to keep this narrative alive...for political reasons of course. :plain:
 

Granite

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The decision was just, there were three blacks on the jury & the decision was unanimous, what decision would you want to see?

Was it unanimous? I thought the prosecutor said that the actual breakdown of the vote wasn't known and couldn't legally be disclosed. I haven't seen that it was unanimous reported anywhere yet. May have missed it.

It is sad this kid was shot but in the end Brown brought it on himself bringing violence towards a police officer...end of story.

There was a time when police regarded themselves and were seen as peacekeepers, not law enforcers. With the results that we see all the time.
 

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Was it unanimous? I thought the prosecutor said that the actual breakdown of the vote wasn't known and couldn't legally be disclosed. I haven't seen that it was unanimous reported anywhere yet. May have missed it.

The prosecutor in his lengthy dissertation said that it was unanimous decision. Maybe I misunderstood...

There was a time when police regarded themselves and were seen as peacekeepers, not law enforcers. With the results that we see all the time.

What is an officer to do when attacked in his car by a thug? The fact that this 6'4" 250+pd. kid was teenager, he brought this action on himself. The fact that he was black & the officer was white is the only reason this story has legs to begin with.
 

Granite

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The prosecutor in his lengthy dissertation said that it was unanimous decision. Maybe I misunderstood...

Not so...he specifically said at least twice that I recall that he couldn't disclose the breakdown of the vote. We'll probably never know for sure, but it's a mistake to say the decision was unanimous--we simply don't know.

What is an officer to do when attacked in his car by a thug?

Better question: Why did it come to this in the first place?

The fact that this 6'4" 250+pd. kid was teenager, he brought this action on himself.

Wilson isn't exactly a small dude, just for the record.

The fact that he was black & the officer was white is the only reason this story has legs to begin with.

The story has legs for multiple reasons. Race is one. The militarized response is another. Then there's the cheapness of black life and the fact that the police can (and do) kill with impunity. Lots of issues at work here.
 

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The violent giant weighed 298 lbs. Go read the evidence again that is non-testimony about the violent attack in the car after he was caught violently robbing a store over Black and Milds.
 

Nick M

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The story has legs for multiple reasons. Race is one. The militarized response is another.

Yes. A violent black man attacked a white officer because he was white. As bad as you want it to be different, that is how it is. And the lives of black colored people are not cheap despite your claim to the contrary.
 

Granite

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Yes. A violent black man attacked a white officer because he was white. As bad as you want it to be different, that is how it is. And the lives of black colored people are not cheap despite your claim to the contrary.

"Black colored"? What is this, the Forties?
 

Nick M

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"Black colored"? What is this, the Forties?

His color is "black", you big dummy. It is how he wants to be identified. Whereas I want to be identified as an American. As embarrassing as that has been since 2009.
 

Granite

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His color is "black", you big dummy. It is how he wants to be identified. Whereas I want to be identified as an American. As embarrassing as that has been since 2009.

"Colored" speaks for itself. And since when are you a mind reader slash psychic when it comes to Michael Brown? How "he wants to be identified"? He's dead last time I checked, smart guy.:yawn:
 
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