Freewill religion is the Man of Sin !

Bright Raven

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Yes indeed, it was given us in Christ Jesus before the world began !

Why don't you answer the question?

Is this the Gospel?

1 Corinthians 15:1-4 King James Version (KJV)

1 Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand;

2 By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain.

3 For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures;

4 And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:
 

Nanja

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This was and is collaborated in the OT scriptures Isa 53:11

11 He shall see of the travail of his soul, and shall be satisfied: by his knowledge shall my righteous servant justify many; for he shall bear their iniquities.

Now the Righteous servant here is Christ, and He shall bear the inquity of many, which corresponds with His Obedience of One in Rom 5:19b, and by that He shall Justify many, the word Justify here means also:to declare righteous.

As a result of the anguish of His soul, He shall see it and be satisfied; By His knowledge [of what He has accomplished] the Righteous One, My Servant, shall justify the many [making them righteous—upright before God, in right standing with Him], For He shall bear [the responsibility for] their sins.AMP

Out of the anguish of his soul he shall see and be satisfied; by his knowledge shall the righteous one, my servant, make many to be accounted righteous, and he shall bear their iniquities.

The simple fact that He bare their sins results in them being accounted Righteous.

Now what the false teachers attempt to do is to take the credit away from Christ, and His One sole Obedience unto death Phil 2:8 being that which Justifies us before God, but will instead give the credit to mans obedience, his faith and or repentance, which depreciates the priceless Justifying Value of Christ's Blood, and praises the value of mans obedience, to which they attribute Justification before God, which is antichrist to say the least !


Perfectly stated!

Christ's Blood alone Justified all His Sheep He died for John 10:11,15,
Chosen In Union with Him before the foundation of the world Eph. 1:4-5.

But non-sheep, reprobates attempt to claim for themselves what was never intended for them
by adding their own works of the flesh, such as placing their own faith/belief in Christ's Blood.
That's antichrist indeed, even blasphemy, the religion of Lucifer Is. 14:12-14!

For it was God's Sovereign Will in Election which decided who would be Saved by the Blood of Christ:
His Vessels of Mercy Rom. 9:23, the only portion of humanity Given Grace before the world began 2 Tim. 1:9!

Eph. 2:8-9
v.8 For by grace are ye saved through faith;
and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
v.9 Not of works, lest any man should boast.

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beloved57

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Perfectly stated!

Christ's Blood alone Justified all His Sheep He died for John 10:11,15,
Chosen In Union with Him before the foundation of the world Eph. 1:4-5.

But non-sheep, reprobates attempt to claim for themselves what was never intended for them
by adding their own works of the flesh, such as placing their own faith/belief in Christ's Blood.
That's antichrist indeed, even blasphemy, the religion of Lucifer Is. 14:12-14!

For it was God's Sovereign Will in Election which decided who would be Saved by the Blood of Christ:
His Vessels of Mercy Rom. 9:23, the only portion of humanity Given Grace before the world began 2 Tim. 1:9!

Eph. 2:8-9
v.8 For by grace are ye saved through faith;
and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
v.9 Not of works, lest any man should boast.

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Amen and may God continue to give us Grace to earnestly contend for the Faith !
 

beloved57

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How denying Limited Atonement denies the Blood of Christ !

How denying Limited Atonement denies the Blood of Christ !

One of the ways that the false teachers of our day deny the Blood of Christ, its saving efficacy, is by denying the Limited Atonement, that is that Christ died for some, and not all without exception, and that the sum total of all the some, is what makes up His World !

We who know the Truth, do realize that the shedding of Christ's Blood does produce saving, converting results upon them it was shed for, and since its a known fact, that all mankind without exception will not experience those saving converting results by the blood of Christ, its proof positive that His Blood was not shed for all mankind without exception.

Now from scripture we will show that the shedding of Hos Blood alone produces saving, converting results. The first scripture testimony we will look at is Heb 9:14

14 How much more shall the blood of Christ, who through the eternal Spirit offered himself without spot to God, purge your conscience from dead works to serve the living God?

Lets put two phrases together in this verse and it reads like this:

14 How much more shall the blood of Christ purge your conscience from dead works to serve the living God?

Notice what the sacred writer writes, what shall the blood of Christ do ?

The word shall here means its a future indicative certainty that the Blood of Christ alone with its own inherent properties will do Two things Listed in the text,

#1. It will purge the consciences[of them it was shed for] from dead works , and #2 To the serving of the Living God !

AW Pink comments on Heb 9:14, the purging of the conscience from dead works:

"Purge your conscience from dead works." This is one of the effects produced by Christ’s sacrifice, an effect which the legal ordinances were incapable of securing. Because Christ’s sacrifice has expiated our sins, when the Spirit applies its virtues to the heart, that is, when He gives faith to appropriate them, our sense of guilt is removed, peace is communicated, and we are enabled to approach God not only without dread, but as joyous worshippers. The "conscience" is here specially singled out (cf. Hebrews 10:22 for the larger meaning) because it is the proper seat of the guilt of sin, charging it on the soul, and hindering an approach unto God. By "dead works" are meant our sins as unto their guilt and defilement—cf. our comments on Hebrews 6:1. True believers are delivered from the curse of the law, which is death.

In order to this, one must be made spiritually alive, which results in the repentance from dead works of false religion Heb 6:1

Therefore leaving the principles of the doctrine of Christ, let us go on unto perfection; not laying again the foundation of repentance from dead works, and of faith toward God,

Repentance from dead works , as well as a purging of the conscience from dead works, is a fruit and effect of the shedding of the Blood of Christ ! This cannot be denied ! Now if all without exception do not experience the repentance from dead works, the purifying of the conscience, then Christ's Blood was not shed for all without exception, unless we are guilty of denying the efficaciousness of the Blood of Christ !
 

beloved57

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How denying Limited Atonement denies the Blood of Christ !2

How denying Limited Atonement denies the Blood of Christ !2

Now lets understand something else, because the effects of the shed blood of Christ does not stop at just granting repentance from dead works, purifying the conscience, but it does it to the converting of the soul unto the serving of the Living God, which is Faith toward God Heb 6:1

Therefore leaving the principles of the doctrine of Christ, let us go on unto perfection; not laying again the foundation of repentance from dead works, and of faith toward God,

For most certainly there could be no serving of the Living of God Heb 9:14

14 How much more shall the blood of Christ, who through the eternal Spirit offered himself without spot to God, purge your conscience from dead works to serve the living God?

Without Faith, because without Faith, its impossible to serve Him, to Please Him Heb 11:6.

The word serve in Heb 9:14 is the greek word latreuó and means:

I serve, especially God, perhaps simply: I worship.

latreúō (from latris, "someone hired to accomplish a technical task because qualified") – properly, to render technical, acceptable service because specifically qualified (equipped).

The Blood of Christ equips them that it was shed for, to render unto the True God, a Life of Spiritual Worship, a Life of Faith to serve Him acceptably ! Heb 12:28

Wherefore we receiving a kingdom which cannot be moved, let us have grace, whereby we may serve God acceptably with reverence and godly fear:

Thats the same greek word serve in Heb 9:14 !

Now this is the Testimony of scripture, as to what the result is of the shedding of the Blood of Christ ! It #1 effects repentance from dead works, purifying the conscience, and #2 Effects a Life of Faith and Worship and Service unto the True and Living God !

Now, does this effect happen to all mankind without exception ? The answer is No, so its quite obvious His Blood shed was not for all without exception, and if we insist that it was in light of this scriptural evidence, we become guilty of denying the Blood of Christ of its efficasiousness, which is blasphemy and irreverence to God and Christ and the Spirit ! So we either receive Limited Atonement, or deny the Blood, no middle ground !
 

beloved57

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How denying Limited Atonement denies the Blood of Christ !3

How denying Limited Atonement denies the Blood of Christ !3

Denying Limited Atonement denies the Blood of Christ because of the stated effects the Blood of Christ produces, which effects do not comprehend all mankind without exception, consequently meaning that the Blood of Christ was not shed for all mankind without exception, lest we become guilty of denying the Blood of Christ !

Now a stated fact of scripture is that the Blood of Christ redeems those it was shed for from a vain conversation/manner of life, we read 1 Pet 1:18-20

18 Forasmuch as ye know that ye were not redeemed with corruptible things, as silver and gold, from your vain conversation received by tradition from your fathers;

19 But with the precious blood of Christ, as of a lamb without blemish and without spot:

20 Who verily was foreordained before the foundation of the world, but was manifest in these last times for you,

Peters testimony to these believers was that they had been redeemed from a vain manner of life, received by tradition, by the precious blood of Christ, as of a lamb without spot and blemish !

The key word here is that they had been redeemed FROM their vain conversation, or manner of life !

The word FROM Preposition ek and means:

from out, out from among, from, suggesting from the interior outwards.



ek (a preposition, written eks before a vowel) – properly, "out from and to" (the outcome); out from within. 1537 /ek ("out of") is one of the most under-translated (and therefore mis-translated) Greek propositions – often being confined to the meaning "by." 1537 (ek) has a two-layered meaning ("out from and to") which makes it out-come oriented (out of the depths of the source and extending to its impact on the object).

This speaks to results, effects produced by the precios blood of Christ, its redemptive property and power.

It actually redeems out of a vain conversation or manner of life !

For you know that you were not redeemed from your useless [spiritually unproductive] way of life inherited [by tradition] from your forefathers with perishable things like silver and gold,AMP

You must know (recognize) that you were redeemed (ransomed) from the useless (fruitless) way of living inherited by tradition from [your] forefathers, not with corruptible things [such as] silver and gold,AMPC

This corresponds with another scripture which testifies to the effects of the Blood shed of Christ, Heb 9:14

14 How much more shall the blood of Christ, who through the eternal Spirit offered himself without spot to God, purge your conscience from dead works to serve the living God?

Yes dead works and vain manner of life are the same thing ! The Blood of Christ cures this, for its inherited by nature !

This denotes conversion, a conversion effected by the one and only Blood of Christ.

Now consider, are all without exception, redeemed out from a vain manner of life, from the unfruitful works of darkness Eph 5:11

And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them.

The answer is No, for many shall remain therein, false religions abound, all of which are vain, unfruitful conversations !

Now if we teach that anyone for whom Christ died is not redeemed from a vain manner of life, not converted to serving the True and Living God, then we teach against and deny the Blood of Christ, or we submit to the reality that the Blood of Christ was not shed for all without exception, confirming the Gospel Truth of Limited Atonement ! Particular Redemption !
 

beloved57

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No difference !

No difference !

Theres no real difference in papal salvation, and arminian, freewill salvation, and the calvinist faith salvation, for all three of these false teachings do deny the Saving Efficacy of Christ's Death alone to Justify before God all for whom He died. The differences they do have do not abort their confederacy in this evil . The papacy says good works must be done by man in order for Christ's death to save them or Justify them before God, the arminian says mans freewill acceptance must be performed, and the subtle calvinist says the act of ones faith or believing is required, without believing, man, even those Christ died for, cannot be Justified before God; So they all press a requirement of something to be done by man for Salvation and or Justification, in addition to the Blood of Christ, and if men don't comply, he is not saved or Justified by the Blood of Christ, which of course denies the satisfactoriness of the Blood of Christ alone to Justify before God those it was shed for, so in essence they deny that anyone is ever Justified before God by Christ's Blood alone, which contradicts Rom 5:9 !
 

beloved57

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I never knew you !

I never knew you !

Matt 7:23

23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.

If the Lord Jesus Christ here was speaking to some He Loved and layed down His Life for, His Friends Jn 15:13

Greater love hath no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends.

His Sheep Jn 10:15

15 As the Father knoweth me, even so know I the Father: and I lay down my life for the sheep.

When He said them "I never knew you"

It would appear that He lied to them by saying that to them, since those He died for He bought with a price, and they were not their own 1 Cor 6:20

20 For ye are bought with a price: therefore glorify God in your body, and in your spirit, which are God's.

That price being His Blood 1 Pet 1:18-19

18 Forasmuch as ye know that ye were not redeemed with corruptible things, as silver and gold, from your vain conversation received by tradition from your fathers;

19 But with the precious blood of Christ, as of a lamb without blemish and without spot:

Now either He outright lied, or He was ignorant in knowing everyone He Loved and died for, and everyone He bought with a price, which price was His Own Blood, Or He did not know them because He never did buy them with His Blood, which means He neither Loved them nor died for them, which is the correct understanding !
 

beloved57

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They cant die in their sins !

They cant die in their sins !

Those Christ died for, in that He died for their sins 1 Cor 15:3 , or He bare their sins 1 Pet 2:24 same thing, it can never be said of them that they die in their sins in unbelief Jn 8:24, simply because by His Death for them, He purged away all their sins Heb 1:3

3 Who being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high:

This fulfilled the prophecy of Ps 65:3

3 Iniquities prevail against me: as for our transgressions, thou shalt purge them away.

When Christ came into the World, it is that He was manifested to take away our sins 1 Jn 3:5

5 And ye know that he was manifested to take away our sins; and in him is no sin.

He put them away how ? Heb 9:26

26 For then must he often have suffered since the foundation of the world: but now once in the end of the world hath he appeared to put away sin by the sacrifice of himself.

It was once said to Isaiah the Prophet Isa 6:7

And he laid it upon my mouth, and said, Lo, this hath touched thy lips; and thine iniquity is taken away, and thy sin purged.

So sin purged and taken away are one and the same ; and not only are their sins purged/taken away, but so is the guilt and punishment of them, because Christ has undergone the guilt and punishment of them when He died for their sins, so their sins and punishment for them cannot be imputed/charged to them 2 Cor 5:19, so none for whom He died can die in their sins in unbelief Jn 8:24 ! They whom He died for cannot die in unbelief because, when He died for them, that made them righteous and or Just, and the scripture promise is, that the Just shall live by Faith ! Rom 1:17

17 For therein is the righteousness of God revealed from faith to faith: as it is written, The just shall live by faith.
 

beloved57

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They cant die in their sins !2

They cant die in their sins !2

Now understand something, If any of those Christ died for are still in their sins after that, after He has purged them away Heb 1:3, then He could not have risen from the dead, simply because His rising from the dead is evidential proof that they for whom He died are not in their sins 1 Cor 15:17

17 And if Christ be not raised, your faith is vain; ye are yet in your sins.


See if Christ is not risen, they [whom He died for] are still in their sins, and they have believed a lie, that Christ by His death took away their sins Jn 1:29;1 Jn 3:5. See Faith believes that Christ has taken away their sins by His Blood Matt 26:28, but if He did not rise, Faith believed a lie !

But alas, they are not in their sins as Christ's resurrection testifies to, and so God has accepted them, reconciled them, and accounted them Righteous for Jesus sake Isa 53:11

11 He shall see of the travail of his soul, and shall be satisfied: by his knowledge shall my righteous servant justify many; for he shall bear their iniquities.

Justify many by bearing their iniquities. Also it can be translated this way:

Out of the anguish of his soul he shall see and be satisfied; by his knowledge shall the righteous one, my servant, make many to be accounted righteous, and he shall bear their iniquities.ESV

They cannot be accounted Righteous if any sin is charged to them. Yes their sins hath been taken away from before Gods Law and Justice, by the sacrifice of Christ alone, and faith does not cause it to be so, but is given to cause us to know that it is so Lk 1:77

77 To give knowledge of salvation unto his people by the remission of their sins,

So His People whom He died for to save from their sins Matt 1:21, its impossible for any one of them to be of this number Jn 8:24 who die in their sins in unbelief !
 

Nanja

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Theres no real difference in papal salvation, and arminian, freewill salvation, and the calvinist faith salvation, for all three of these false teachings do deny the Saving Efficacy of Christ's Death alone to Justify before God all for whom He died. The differences they do have do not abort their confederacy in this evil . The papacy says good works must be done by man in order for Christ's death to save them or Justify them before God, the arminian says mans freewill acceptance must be performed, and the subtle calvinist says the act of ones faith or believing is required, without believing, man, even those Christ died for, cannot be Justified before God; So they all press a requirement of something to be done by man for Salvation and or Justification, in addition to the Blood of Christ, and if men don't comply, he is not saved or Justified by the Blood of Christ, which of course denies the satisfactoriness of the Blood of Christ alone to Justify before God those it was shed for, so in essence they deny that anyone is ever Justified before God by Christ's Blood alone, which contradicts Rom 5:9 !


Very well said! The pride of man requires some work / performance
of the flesh they do to contribute to their Salvation / Justification.

It's not by their own faith or believing in the Blood of Christ
that Justifies, but is solely by and through the Blood of Christ alone
for all those His Death was for John 10:11,15.

Rom. 3:24
Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus

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beloved57

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Very well said! The pride of man requires some work / performance
of the flesh they do to contribute to their Salvation / Justification.

It's not by their own faith or believing in the Blood of Christ
that Justifies, but is solely by and through the Blood of Christ alone
for all those His Death was for John 10:11,15.


Rom. 3:24
Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus

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Amen !
 

Nanja

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Matt 7:23

23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.

If the Lord Jesus Christ here was speaking to some He Loved and layed down His Life for, His Friends Jn 15:13

Greater love hath no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends.

His Sheep Jn 10:15

15 As the Father knoweth me, even so know I the Father: and I lay down my life for the sheep.

When He said them "I never knew you"

It would appear that He lied to them by saying that to them, since those He died for He bought with a price, and they were not their own 1 Cor 6:20

20 For ye are bought with a price: therefore glorify God in your body, and in your spirit, which are God's.

That price being His Blood 1 Pet 1:18-19

18 Forasmuch as ye know that ye were not redeemed with corruptible things, as silver and gold, from your vain conversation received by tradition from your fathers;

19 But with the precious blood of Christ, as of a lamb without blemish and without spot:

Now either He outright lied, or He was ignorant in knowing everyone He Loved and died for, and everyone He bought with a price, which price was His Own Blood, Or He did not know them because He never did buy them with His Blood, which means He neither Loved them nor died for them, which is the correct understanding !

Amen! They are the reprobates of humanity, the cursed goats Mat. 25:33, 41,
and "the people against whom the LORD hath indignation for ever" Mal. 1:4;
the tares, the sons of the devil which he sowed into the world Mat. 13:38-39.

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beloved57

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Amen! They are the reprobates of humanity, the cursed goats Mat. 25:33, 41,
and "the people against whom the LORD hath indignation for ever" Mal. 1:4;
the tares, the sons of the devil which he sowed into the world Mat. 13:38-39.

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You are a wise women, Thanks to God !
 

beloved57

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False Doctrine is a Evil deed !

False Doctrine is a Evil deed !

False Doctrine is a Evil deed Per 2 Jn 9-11

9 Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not God. He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ, he hath both the Father and the Son.

10 If there come any unto you, and bring not this doctrine, receive him not into your house, neither bid him God speed:

11 For he that biddeth him God speed is partaker of his evil deeds.

Did you know that false doctrines that go contrary to the Person and or Work of Christ, no matter how right they may sound, how moral they appear, how religious they be, if they are teaching a doctrine that contradict scripture truth, especially when it comes to the Person and Work of Christ, its efficacy to save, they are doing evil deeds !

In Jn 3:19

19 And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil.

The deeds that were so evil here, were not so much things like fornication, adultery, drugs and alcohol, or stealing, but false doctrines and teachings by the scribes and pharisees.

You see everyone preaching about Christ are not Preaching the One and Only True Christ, nor the True Doctrine of Christ. In Preaching Christ, We must know that He is God in the flesh Jn 1:1,14;1 Tim 3:16, that He is also the Mediator between God and Man 1 Tim 2:5

5 For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;

Hence anyone Preaching Christ, and yet deny His Deity, or His Mediator Manhood, they are doing evil deeds !
 

beloved57

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False Doctrine is a Evil deed !2

False Doctrine is a Evil deed !2

Also we must not just know who He is as GodMan Mediator, but exactly what He has accomplished and for whom it was accomplished. For instance, if one says they believe on Christ, in that it reads that He died for our sins 1 Cor 15:3, but yet dont believe He is both God and Man as made known in the scripture, then they dont believe in or teach the Christ of scripture, of 1 Cor 15:3, and that teaching is a evil deed; Or yet suppose that one believes and teaches that Christ died for all humanity without exception when they claim to believe this 1 Cor 15:3, which is contrary to scripture, then they believe and teach a false doctrine about Christ, which is a evil deed, and True Believers are not to give any semblance of religious fellowship and or approval of such works of darkness of such evil deeds Eph 5:11

And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them.

Thats what John means in 2 Jn 9-11

9 Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not God. He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ, he hath both the Father and the Son.

10 If there come any unto you, and bring not this doctrine, receive him not into your house, neither bid him God speed:

11 For he that biddeth him God speed is partaker of his evil deeds.

True and Faithful believers are to reprove the evil and darkness of the false teaching that Jesus Christ died for all men without exception, knowing that all men without exception shall not be saved, hence making the Death of Christ in and of itself powerless to save them He died for, that is not the Doctrine of Christ !
 
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