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Gal 6:14Why is it that people who want to believe in Calvin’s theology need to write an essay telling people what a verse in the bible is saying?

They must believe only they know what Paul was writing about.

Peter warned us about people who misread Paul, as the Calvinist do.

(2 Peter 3:15-16) “Think of our Lord’s patience as your opportunity to be saved: our brother Paul, who is so dear to us, told you this when he wrote to you with the wisdom that is his special gift. He always writes like this when he deals with this sort of subject, and this makes some points in his letter hard to understand; these are the points that uneducated and unbalanced people distort, in the same way as they distort the rest of scripture a fatal thing for them to do.”


14 But God forbid that I should glory, save in the cross of our Lord Jesus Christ, by whom the world is crucified unto me, and I unto the world.

What does Paul mean by this ? Paul as well as every True Believers doeth realizes the power of the Death of Christ for all whom He died, by it, all for whom He died the world is crucified to them, and they unto the world.

This means that by the Cross of Christ , all those He died for are delivered from false world religion. With Paul it was the false religion of Judaism. Remember his testimony Phil 3:4-6

4 Though I might also have confidence in the flesh. If any other man thinketh that he hath whereof he might trust in the flesh, I more:

5 Circumcised the eighth day, of the stock of Israel, of the tribe of Benjamin, an Hebrew of the Hebrews; as touching the law, a Pharisee;

6 Concerning zeal, persecuting the church; touching the righteousness which is in the law, blameless.

That was the world he was now crucified to solely because of the Cross. False religion is called the world here Col 2:8,20

Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ.

Wherefore if ye be dead with Christ from the rudiments of the world, why, as though living in the world, are ye subject to ordinances,

Its all the different false philosophies of the cursed religious world under the domain of satan, the evil world system.

When Jesus uses the word world here Jn 15:18

If the world hate you, ye know that it hated me before it hated you.

He is not talking about fornicators, drunkards, and so forth, the world here is primarily Judaism, the false system of worship of national Israel. However the Cross Crucifies His Sheep from whatever false religion they may be involved with.

If its Judaism, roman Catholicism, arminianism, freewillism, or whatever sect or cult they may be in, or even if they are not religious at all, but just caught up in worldliness in general, the Cross delivers them from the world.

Gal 1:4

Who gave himself for our sins, that /so that he might deliver us from this present evil world, according to the will of God and our Father:

To deliver us from this present evil world, that includes its false religions, the great whore and mystery Babylon.

The same Truth is Taught here Heb 9:14

14 How much more shall the blood of Christ[Christ Crucified], who through the eternal Spirit offered himself without spot to God, purge your conscience from dead works to serve the living God?

You know what one of things dead works is ? Its false religion, religions without Christ, like the jews had in Judaism and which some of the jews the Writer was then writing were in danger of returning to !

But by the Grace of God today, I glory in Christ Crucified by whom the world was crucified unto me and I unto the world. It was not my freewill, my decision, none of that flesh boasting activity, but solely by the Power of the Blood of Christ and Him Crucified !
 

beloved57

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God never intended life by the Law !

God never intended life by the Law !

Gal 2:21

21 I do not frustrate the grace of God: for if righteousness come by the law, then Christ is dead in vain.

Gal 3:21

21 Is the law then against the promises of God? God forbid: for if there had been a law given which could have given life, verily righteousness should have been by the law.

This is a lesson that the natural man will never learn, he will always seek life out of law keeping in some form or other, and unfortunately those who remain in that mindset are under the curse of the Law.

Now if God never intended Eternal Life by means of keeping the Law, why did Jesus respond to the question of the young man here in this manner Matt 19:15-22

15 And he laid his hands on them, and departed thence.

16 And, behold, one came and said unto him, Good Master, what good thing shall I do, that I may have eternal life?

17 And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments.

18 He saith unto him, Which? Jesus said, Thou shalt do no murder, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness,

19 Honour thy father and thy mother: and, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.

20 The young man saith unto him, All these things have I kept from my youth up: what lack I yet?

21 Jesus said unto him, If thou wilt be perfect, go and sell that thou hast, and give to the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come and follow me.

22 But when the young man heard that saying, he went away sorrowful: for he had great possessions.

Well what Jesus was showing this young man is that no one can do that which is required to inherit Eternal Life.

Yes, if he could have done it, he would have a right to enter in Eternal Life based upon his own doings.

But God never intended Eternal Life based upon man keeping the Law, it was always based upon a promise of Grace, this was Established before the World Began Titus 1:1-2

Paul, a servant of God, and an apostle of Jesus Christ, according to the faith of God's elect, and the acknowledging of the truth which is after godliness;

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Paul also makes it clear that the Inhritance of Eternal Life was promised before the Law was Given Gal 3:16-21

16 Now to Abraham and his seed were the promises made. He saith not, And to seeds, as of many; but as of one, And to thy seed, which is Christ.

17 And this I say, that the covenant, that was confirmed before of God in Christ, the law, which was four hundred and thirty years after, cannot disannul, that it should make the promise of none effect.

18 For if the inheritance be of the law, it is no more of promise: but God gave it to Abraham by promise.

19 Wherefore then serveth the law? It was added because of transgressions, till the seed should come to whom the promise was made; and it was ordained by angels in the hand of a mediator.

20 Now a mediator is not a mediator of one, but God is one.

21 Is the law then against the promises of God? God forbid: for if there had been a law given which could have given life, verily righteousness should have been by the law.

In fact the Promise was given before any law was given to Adam in the garden, because the promise is from before the World began Titus 1:2

2 In hope of eternal life and or Inheritance, which God, that cannot lie, promised before the world began;

Now if these things be True, how do we see verses like this Rom 2:7,10-13

7 To them who by patient continuance in well doing seek for glory and honour and immortality, eternal life:

10 But glory, honour, and peace, to every man that worketh good, to the Jew first, and also to the Gentile:

11 For there is no respect of persons with God.

12 For as many as have sinned without law shall also perish without law: and as many as have sinned in the law shall be judged by the law;

13 (For not the hearers of the law are just before God, but the doers of the law shall be justified.

The reason is this, its because of Christ, The Eternal Inheritance was to be gained not by man keeping the Law, but God Man in Christ. It was premised on His Law Keeping both in Righteous Living and enduring the Penalty of sinners that through Him all the Promises of Eternal Inheritance was to be gained. As the Covenant Head of the People He was to Isa 42:21

21 The Lord is well pleased for his righteousness' sake; he will magnify the law, and make it honourable.

That was the End of the Law Given, for Christ to magnify it and make it Honorable by His Redemptive Life and Death, other than that, it was given to the People to show them their sinfulness and the reason why they should look forward to the Coming Seed who would do it for them Gal 3:18-19

18 For if the inheritance be of the law, it is no more of promise: but God gave it to Abraham by promise.

19 Wherefore then serveth the law? It was added because of transgressions, till the seed should come[Christ] to whom the promise was made[Before the Foundation]; and it was ordained by angels in the hand of a mediator.

The Seed Christ was to keep the Law for the Seed of Promise ! So God never intended life by the Law as far as man keeping the law was concerned for it, but He did intend it by means the Mediator Keeping it on their behalf thereby magnifying it and making it Honorable !
 

beloved57

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False teachers deny Adam's Federal Headship !

False teachers deny Adam's Federal Headship !

Many false teachers in this day do deny the federal headship of Adam in the beginning and so teach contrary to what has been revealed by scripture.

The scripture by the inspired Apostle Paul teaches Adam's federal headship over all men in him in the beginning, so much so that in the Divine Reckoning of things when Adam sinned, likewise did all for whom he federally represented sinned. Now lets prove this by reading the following Rom 5:12,15,16,17,18,19

12 Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned:

15 But not as the offence, so also is the free gift. For if through the offence of one many be dead, much more the grace of God, and the gift by grace, which is by one man, Jesus Christ, hath abounded unto many.

16 And not as it was by one that sinned, so is the gift: for the judgment was by one to condemnation, but the free gift is of many offences unto justification.

17 For if by one man's offence death reigned by one; much more they which receive abundance of grace and of the gift of righteousness shall reign in life by one, Jesus Christ)


18 Therefore as by the offence of one judgment came upon all men to condemnation; even so by the righteousness of one the free gift came upon all men unto justification of life.

19 For as by one man's disobedience many were made sinners, so by the obedience of one shall many be made righteous.

These scriptures makes Adam's federal headship so crystal clear, that only depraved and darkened minds would dare oppose them, for their minds have been blinded by the god of this world so they cannot receive the Love of the Truth. For the all wise God set it up that in the beginning Adam acted in behalf of all persons that would generate from Him, who of course were the sons of God in their natural states Lk 3:38

38 Which was the son of Enos, which was the son of Seth, which was the son of Adam, which was the son of God.

Remember it was through Seth, the replaced seed of Eve, Abel that men began to call upon the Name of the Lord, which would be the Elect Sons of God Gen 4:25-26

25 And Adam knew his wife again; and she bare a son, and called his name Seth: For God, said she, hath appointed me another seed instead of Abel, whom Cain slew.

26 And to Seth, to him also there was born a son; and he called his name Enos: then began men to call upon the name of the Lord.
 

beloved57

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Denying the Justifying worth of the Blood of Christ !

Denying the Justifying worth of the Blood of Christ !

Those false teachers and those who follow them who teach that before one can be Justified before God, that they must first act faith or believe or repent or some other Gospel dutie of obedience, what they are being guilty of before God, they are guilty of depriving Christ's precious blood of it's infinite Justifying merit before God, they teach that not until mans faith or act of obedience of some type, Christ's blood in Justifying one before God counts as nothing ! It in and of itself for them did not Justify them before God's Law and Justice, but it must wait for the creatures motion or performance before it can have its rightful Glory. This is just as bad as trampling under foot the blood of Christ, for they are saying in essence that Hs Blood alone is not sufficient enough for God to justify sinners that it was shed for Matt 26:28

28 For this is my blood of the new testament, which is shed for many for the remission of sins.

Without their act of obedience, hence denying the plain Truth of Rom 5:19b

19 For as by one man's disobedience many were made sinners, so by the obedience of one shall many be made righteous.
 

beloved57

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Must we accept Christ's blood to be Justified ?

Must we accept Christ's blood to be Justified ?

Must we accept Christ's blood to be Justified before God ? Folks one of the biggest lies n false religion today is that of, in order for one to be Justified before God by Christ's blood that He shed for them Matt 26:28; Rom 5:9 , it is that they must first accept it as a gift, then only after we accept it, God then Justifies them before His Law and Justice, again that is a Lie, and it belittles and discredits the precious blood of Christ ! Now the Truth is, that those He died for or shed His Blood for, they do not have to accept anything or nothing in order for God to Justify them before His Law and Justice, and the only one that must accept Christ's blood for their Justification before Him is God Himself, that's Right, it was a Gift Offered to God from Christ the altar and the Gift Heb 13:10 !

That's Right Justification by the Blood for those Christ shed His Blood for was solely conditioned upon whether or not God would accept it as a ransom payment, and the fact that He did accept it and did Justify them before Himself, that fact is evidenced by God Raising Him up from the dead as per Rom 4:25

25 Who was delivered for our offences, and was raised again for our justification.

25 Who was betrayed and put to death because of our misdeeds and was raised to secure our justification (our acquittal), [making our account balance and absolving us from all guilt before God].AMP

Yes that's right, the resurrection of Christ is a Living Testimony that His Shed Blood Justified before God, all those whom offences were charged to Him and whom He was delivered up in behalf of as Per Rom 4:25 !

So for all who falsely teach and say, that one for whom Christ died / shed His Blood, that they must accept it before God Justifies them before His Law and Justice, and acquit them from all guilt of sin, they are LIARS and ANTICHRIST, and Christ's Resurrection is a Testimony against them Rom 4:25 !
 

beloved57

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Blessed us with all Spiritual Blessings !

Blessed us with all Spiritual Blessings !

Eph 1:3-4

3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who hath blessed us with all spiritual blessings in heavenly places in Christ:

4 According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love:

All for whom God did choose in Christ before the foundation, was at that time blessed blessed with all spiritual blessings, in accordance with the Fact of having been chosen in Christ. Grace was given [in purpose] in Christ before the world began 2 Tim 1:9

9 Who hath saved us, and called us with an holy calling, not according to our works, but according to his own purpose and grace, which was given us in Christ Jesus before the world began,

Now a few of those spiritual blessings bestowed upon them is #1 Justification from all sin, they have been once and for all by being Chosen in the Beloved accepted of God in Him Eph 1:6

6 To the praise of the glory of his grace, wherein he hath made us accepted in the beloved.

What Grace ? Remember, Grace was given them when according to 2 Tim 1:9

9 Who hath saved us, and called us with an holy calling, not according to our works, but according to his own purpose and grace, which was given us in Christ Jesus before the world began,

And by that Grace, they have been accepted of God in Him. That word accepted caritovw :

to make graceful charming, lovely, agreeable

to peruse with grace, compass with favour
to honour with blessings

Its from the root Charis where we get the word Grace :

grace that which affords joy, pleasure, delight, sweetness, charm, loveliness: grace of speech

good will, loving-kindness, favour of the merciful kindness by which God, exerting his holy influence upon souls, turns them to Christ, keeps, strengthens, increases them in Christian faith, knowledge, affection, and kindles them to the exercise of the Christian virtues

what is due to grace the spiritual condition of one governed by the power of divine grace
the token or proof of grace, benefit a gift of grace
benefit, bounty


thanks, (for benefits, services, favours), recompense, reward

Also a Spiritual Blessing they have been blessed with is Sanctification and will be blessed with Regeneration, Wisdom,Illumination and Glorification, you see its automatic, where God gives Grace, He also gives Glory Ps 84:11

For the Lord God is a sun and shield: the Lord will give grace and glory: no good thing will he withhold from them that walk uprightly.

To them that walk uprightly ! Well, everyone Christ died for walks Uprightly by Imputation, the Upright Life that their Surety Redeemer Lived upon the Earth has been freely imputed to them and its as if they have done it themselves, and so to them God will not withhold any good thing. Its like when Paul wrote Rom 8:32

32 He that spared not his own Son, but delivered him up for us all, how shall he not with him also freely give us all things?

These are Covenant Blessings received by them because of Christ's Work on their behalf alone !
 

beloved57

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Corrupting Rom 5:10

Corrupting Rom 5:10

Rom 5:10

10 For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, being reconciled, we shall be saved by his life.

One of the subtle heresies in false God forsaken religion is that which says that Christ's death does not save anyone in and of itself, but that His Life must save us, and then they point to Rom 5:10 for the proof of the same .

However, Rom 5:10 does not say or imply anything about Christ's death not saving those He died for, though it does state that those reconciled to God by His Death while being enemies, that they shall be saved by His Life, and that we do embrace, all for whom Christ died, though enemies they are by Nature and children of wrath Eph 2:3, they shall be saved by His Life. Now exactly what is Paul's meaning here ? Its this, every sinner that Christ hath died for, and completely done away with their sins and the penaly they incurred taken out the way, they must be made alive by the Spirit of Life See Rom 8:2.

The Spirit, because of the accomplishment of the redeeming death of Christ must give Spiritual Liberty and Life as a consequence of the same 2 Cor 3:17 Liberty from and out of spiritual death is included . Understand, the Spirit must give Life simply because the penalty of sin, death Rom 6:23 has been done away with for them !

Everyone Christ died for, His Blood purchased and obtained for them the deliverance from the penalty of their sins. Heb 9:12

12 Neither by the blood of goats and calves, but by his own blood he entered in once into the holy place, having obtained eternal redemption for us.

This word redemption in the greek is lytrōsis and means:

I.
a ransoming, redemption

II.
deliverance, esp. from the penalty of sin

With this Truth being established and is a fact, then all for whom Christ died must be given Life, because death which is the wages of sin Rom 6:23

23 For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.

That penalty has been eternally paid in full !
 

beloved57

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Corrupting Rom 5:10 2

Corrupting Rom 5:10 2

Now with the penalty paid, death for all whom He died must be vanquished , and as evidence thereof, Life must be granted in its stead, and that Life is the evidence that they have been saved from a dead state, quickened Eph 2:1,5. See while we are yet enemies is due to being in a spiritually dead state, so all for whom He died must be saved out of a dead state, So Jesus says of all them He came to save by His death for them Jn 3:7

7 Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again.

Also scriptures like Eph 2:5 bear witness; For Christ by His Resurrected life has been made a Life giving Spirit, giving Spiritual Life by His Spirit, to all the dead sinners, He paid their penalty of death in behalf of, and by this they are saved by His Life;

But that's not to say as false teachers do that deny Christ, that nobody is saved by His Death in and of itself, for that's false and its blasphemy, and they have no business pretending to preach Christ and Him Crucified, and may they give in account in the day of Judgment unto their Eternal Ruin and Shame !
 

beloved57

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Why its Blasphemy !

Why its Blasphemy !

Why Salvation by the freewill of man is Blasphemy ! Because it opposes the predestinating Grace of God in Eternal Election, the Election of Grace, wherein God did choose according to His Free and Sovereign Will and Christ died for, a limited and certain number of men among mankind, to Salvation and Glory without any consideration of them doing good or evil, but solely upon His own Sovereign Freewill. The false teaching of theirs is most contrary to the scripture revelation Rom 9:11-13

11 (For the children being not yet born, neither having done any good or evil, that the purpose of God according to election might stand, not of works, but of him that calleth)

12 It was said unto her, The elder shall serve the younger.

13 As it is written, Jacob have I loved, but Esau have I hated.
 

beloved57

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Saved Soely by the Death/Obedience of Christ !

Saved Soely by the Death/Obedience of Christ !

Saved Soely by the Death/Obedience of Christ , so is the Testimony of Rom 5:19b

19 For as by one man's disobedience many were made sinners, so by the obedience of one shall many be made righteous.

Yes this Gracious Truth cannot be believed by the reprobate, but its true none the less. All for whom Christ died, by His Death / Obedience alone for them, in their stead and on their behalf shall make them Righteous, that's Salvation ! Ps 1:5-6

Therefore the ungodly shall not stand in the judgment, nor sinners in the congregation of the righteous/saved.

For the Lord knoweth the way of the righteous/saved: but the way of the ungodly shall perish.

Ps 34:15

The eyes of the Lord are upon the righteous, and his ears are open unto their cry.

Matt 13:43

Then shall the righteous/saved shine forth as the sun in the kingdom of their Father. Who hath ears to hear, let him hear.

Matt 25:37

Then shall the righteous/saved answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, and fed thee? or thirsty, and gave thee drink?

1 Pet 3:12

For the eyes of the Lord are over the righteous/saved, and his ears are open unto their prayers: but the face of the Lord is against them that do evil.

Every last person that is Righteous in the above scriptures, were made so by the obedience of Jesus Christ Rom 5:19 and they are saved.

You see, just as the natural head adam, his one act of disobedience caused them to be lost, apart from any personal disobedience of their own, so likewise Christ's one single action of Obedience, caused them to be saved apart from any personal obedience of their own ; This is what is meant by Grace reigning through Jesus Christ Rom 5:21

21 That as sin hath reigned unto death, even so might grace reign through righteousness unto eternal life by Jesus Christ our Lord.

This is what Paul means when He writes to the Ephesians Elders in Acts 20:24

24 But none of these things move me, neither count I my life dear unto myself, so that I might finish my course with joy, and the ministry, which I have received of the Lord Jesus, to testify the gospel of the grace of God.

To be saved by Grace and to be saved by Christ's Death are the same. So the truth be told, man by nature we cannot believe the Gospel of the Grace of God, its foolishness to us !
 

beloved57

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Beware of false teaching like this its antichrist !

Beware of false teaching like this its antichrist !

Many today in organized false religion teach that those Christ died for, have not a interest or application of the Merits of Christ's death unto them, not until they believe, but that's A LIE from the pits of hell, simply because all those He did die for, by that death alone, hath been reconciled to God, received into His Favor, even while they themselves are yet still enemies and unbelievers ! Rom 5:10

However, those of mankind who are unbelievers and have not been reconciled to God by the death of His Son, while they are unbelievers, they are #1 Condemned already Jn 3:18 and #2 under God's Wrath Jn 3:36, so that tells us that Christ's death makes a difference and that its merits has been received by those whom He died, since they in a state of unbelief and being enemies, are not under wrath and condemnation but received into His Favor !

This fact proves they that teach such things are false teachers and have not been sent by God , they have not the Message of the Gospel of God's Grace !
 

Nanja

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Many today in organized false religion teach that those Christ died for, have not a interest or application of the Merits of Christ's death unto them, not until they believe, but that's A LIE from the pits of hell, simply because all those He did die for, by that death alone, hath been reconciled to God, received into His Favor, even while they themselves are yet still enemies and unbelievers !

However, those of mankind who are unbelievers and have not been reconciled to God by the death of His Son, while they are unbelievers, they are #1 Condemned already and #2 under God's Wrath , so that tells us that Christ's death makes a difference and that its merits has been received by those whom He died, since they in a state of unbelief and being enemies, are not under wrath and condemnation but received into His Favor !

This fact proves they that teach such things are false teachers and have not been sent by God , they have not the Message of the Gospel of God's Grace !


False religion teaches that anyone can be saved by a simple act of believing on Christ in their uncircumcised heart and become born again; that Christ died for all of mankind. Yet, they are under God's Wrath because they were never His Sheep:
"ye believe not because ye are not of my sheep" John 10:26
For Christ gave His Life for His Sheep. John 10:11

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beloved57

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Beware of false teaching like this its antichrist ! 2

Beware of false teaching like this its antichrist ! 2

Continuing in showing that the Death of Christ is applied to those Christ died for, and they take part of its benefits before they believe, and while they are yet unbelievers and enemies, when others whom He did not die for, while they are yet unbelievers and enemies don't partake of its benefits, that being difference being, those who are unbelievers whom Christ died for, they have been reconciled to God and received into His Favor Rom 5:10 and those whom Christ did not die for, as they are unbelievers and enemies they are under God's condemnation Jn 3:18 and Wrath Jn 3:36 !

Now here's another very important difference in this matter as to how Christ's death makes a huge difference.

The Promises : Now the promise to the ones whom Christ died for, and reconciled to God even while being unbelieving enemies, being thusly reconciled, the promise is that they SHALL be saved by His Life ! Rom 5:10

10 For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, being reconciled, we shall be saved by his life.

In other words, they shall be saved out of being His Enemies or from being His Enemies to Fellowship !

But The promise to those one whom Christ did not die for, and who are not reconciled to God by His Death, and are unbelievers and enemies, and are under His Wrath, the Promise is that they SHALL NOT See Life Jn 3:36

36 He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him.

You see that ? They shall not be saved, for they shall always remain in a lost state being God's enemies and unbelievers !

That's a Major difference ! If we cannot see that difference then we are spiritually blind, and willfully ignorant !

Simply put, the unbelievers Christ died for shall be saved by His Life, and the unbelievers Christ did not die for shall not be saved by His Life !
 

beloved57

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He shall save His People from their sins !

He shall save His People from their sins !

Matt 1:21

21 And she shall bring forth a son, and thou shalt call his name Jesus: for he shall save his people from their sins.

Many in apostate religion of man would tell us that this Promise to save His People from their sins is all about Israel according to the flesh, and not about Gentiles, they are not included they say in this category of being His People, for whom this is promised "that He shall save His People from their sins ! However, that's their spiritual ignorance, because it does include some Gentiles, and it was foretold back in the OT scriptures, Gentiles as well as some jews are His People, whom come to Faith in Him, and He is the author of their Faith in Him Heb 12:2.

Now Paul writes here in Rom 9 giving us to understand the Mind of God, that the Gentiles in the Purpose of God, have always been included in and as His People Rom 9:24-26

24 Even us, whom he hath called, not of the Jews only, but also of the Gentiles?

25 As he saith also in Osee, I will call them my people, which were not my people; and her beloved, which was not beloved.

26 And it shall come to pass, that in the place where it was said unto them, Ye are not my people; there shall they be called the children of the living God.

Please note the terms My People and the Children of the Living God are the same People !

Now notice Vs 25 " My People" is here referring specifically to Gentiles, who are of the called in Vs 24

Which were of the Vessels of Mercy in Vs 23

"And that he might make known the riches of his glory on the vessels of mercy, which he had afore prepared unto glory,"

Whom God formed to be Vessels of Honor Vs 20-21

20 Nay but, O man, who art thou that repliest against God? Shall the thing formed say to him that formed it, Why hast thou made me thus?

21 Hath not the potter power over the clay, of the same lump to make one vessel unto honour, and another unto dishonour?

Hence these Gentiles are His People of Matt 1:21, vessels of Mercy as some jews were.

They were of that People that the Father gave to the Son Jn 17:2,10

2 As thou hast given him power over all flesh, that he should give eternal life to as many as thou hast given him.

10 And all mine are thine, and thine are mine; and I am glorified in them.

So amongst the Gentiles God of old had a special selected people of His Own to be called by His Name Acts 15:14-18

14 Simeon hath declared how God at the first did visit the Gentiles, to take out of them a people for his name.

15 And to this agree the words of the prophets; as it is written,

16 After this I will return, and will build again the tabernacle of David, which is fallen down; and I will build again the ruins thereof, and I will set it up:

17 That the residue of men might seek after the Lord, and all the Gentiles, upon whom my name is called, saith the Lord, who doeth all these things.

18 Known unto God are all his works from the beginning of the world.

It was this Truth, that Chosen Gentiles also belonged to God's Chosen remnant Israel out of all mankind, that was a Mystery ! But now this has been fully revealed in the NT, and those in our present day are more culpable for the rejection of this truth in the impending Day of Judgment, because they are now sinning against a greater degree of Light, Now that the Apostolic Testimony has been clearly brought forth, especially from Paul the Apostle ! When Jesus said to Paul Acts 18:9-10

Then spake the Lord to Paul in the night by a vision, Be not afraid, but speak, and hold not thy peace:

10 For I am with thee, and no man shall set on thee to hurt thee: for I have much people in this city.

Gentiles were included in the MUCH PEOPLE He had ! They were some of the HIS PEOPLE in Matt 1:21

21 And she shall bring forth a son, and thou shalt call his name Jesus: for he shall save his people from their sins.
 

beloved57

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No Condemnation in Christ Jesus period !

No Condemnation in Christ Jesus period !

Rom 8:1

There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.

2 Tim 1:9

9 Who hath saved us, and called us with an holy calling, not according to our works, but according to his own purpose and grace, which was given us in Christ Jesus before the world began,

Now many today fail to understand this blessed Truth, and they claim million upon millions [for whom Christ died] are condemned who are in Christ Jesus, for they foolishly think that walking after the Spirit is a condition the sinner must fulfill for them to be in Christ and not condemned !

However the fact of the matter is that the only conditions need for a sinner to be in Christ and not condemned, is that #1 That they were in Christ Jesus before the world began, and that Christ died for them. No one that Christ died for is condemned, even while they are yet enemies, and before they believe, for they are in Christ Jesus before they believe.

Now another way and reason why its known that they are not condemned before they believe, by the Gospel of Reconciliation whereby its Preached 2 Cor 5:19

19 To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation.

19 It was God [personally present] in Christ, reconciling and restoring the world to favor with Himself, not counting up and holding against [men] their trespasses [but cancelling them], and committing to us the message of reconciliation (of the restoration to favor).

So by their sins not being counted against them [even before they believe], there could not have been no condemnation against them before God's Law and Justice, all has been cancelled, so they had it [non imputation] before they believed, and so they were not already condemned before they believed as those are here Jn 3:18

18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.

You see if they were condemned already before they believed, then sin was charged unto them and the Word of Reconciliation would be a Lie 2 Cor 5:19 !

So there is never any condemnation to those in Christ Jesus, before or after they believe Jn 5:24

24 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life.
 

beloved57

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deadly deception !

deadly deception !

One of the fundamental errors of false Christianity , even amongst that which is labeled Calvinism, and why I separate from them also is this, they make faith and or the act of believing, the cause of Justification before God, so they teach that even though Christ has died for one, and satisfied Law and Justice completely in behalf of one, yet they without faith or the act of believing done by the creature, they are still not in a Justified state before God, and that they shall not be so until their act of faith or believing, and it is upon the creatures act of believing that they enter into a Justified state before God, which is a deadly false teaching, contrary to the Truth, because the Resurrection of Christ is proof positive, that all for whom Christ died, bare their offences, that upon His Resurrection they are declared to be in a Justified state before God Rom 4:25

25 Who was delivered for[because of] our offences, and was raised again for [because of]our justification.

So these blind teachers have made the creatures act of believing to be responsible for their Justification before God's Law and Justice, instead of Christ's Work alone !

Now this deadly deception is very subtle and inconspicuous. So here how it is, the false believer believes his act of faith makes him Righteous before God, the True Believer believes that the object of His Faith [Christ] makes or made him Righteous / Justified before God !
 

beloved57

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With the Heart man believeth unto Righteousness !

With the Heart man believeth unto Righteousness !

Rom 10:9-10

9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.

10 For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.

Many in false religion have hijacked this verse and passage to mean and teach that the unregenerate man or woman in the flesh, can somehow with a spiritually wicked heart , a darkened understanding, can believeth unto Righteousness;

But the heart here means also the mind by which we think, feel, will, understand, its the whole soul and inner man, which man in the flesh, unregenerate cannot please God with any of that Rom 8:7-8

7 Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be or cannot be.

8 So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God.

And since the believing with the Heart is an act of Faith which pleases God Heb 11:6, and those in the flesh cannot please God Rom 8:8, then those in Rom 10:9-10 that believeth unto Righteousness cannot possibly be those in the flesh, unregenerate, its not even possible !
 

Nanja

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One of the fundamental errors of false Christianity , even amongst that which is labeled Calvinism, and why I separate from them also is this, they make faith and or the act of believing, the cause of Justification before God, so they teach that even though Christ has died for one, and satisfied Law and Justice completely in behalf of one, yet they without faith or the act of believing done by the creature, they are still not in a Justified state before God, and that they shall not be so until their act of faith or believing, and it is upon the creatures act of believing that they enter into a Justified state before God, which is a deadly false teaching, contrary to the Truth, because the Resurrection of Christ is proof positive, that all for whom Christ died, bare their offences, that upon His Resurrection they are declared to be in a Justified state before God Rom 4:25

25 Who was delivered for[because of] our offences, and was raised again for [because of]our justification.


TY for the info, I was unaware of that, but am not surprised.
Another "step" I understand that some of these may adhere to is infant baptism, which is another work of the flesh.

So these blind teachers have made the creatures act of believing to be responsible for their Justification before God's Law and Justice, instead of Christ's Work alone !

Now this deadly deception is very subtle and inconspicuous. So here how it is, the false believer believes his act of faith makes him Righteous before God, the True Believer believes that the object of His Faith [Christ] makes or made him Righteous / Justified before God !

If a person thinks their own work of faith Justified them before God, then according to God's Word, they aren't Justified at all! (Gal. 2:16)

the True Believer believes that the object of His Faith [Christ] makes or made him Righteous / Justified before God !


Very true. Faith is a revealing of the work Christ has done for all those He died for; His Righteousness is imputed to them. And they are given (a gift) a profound trust in His work on their behalf. This faith is a gift and fruit of the Holy Spirit one can only receive in the New Birth, not before. (Gal. 5:22; Eph. 2:8)

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beloved57

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nanja

TY for the info, I was unaware of that, but am not surprised.
Another "step" I understand that some of these may adhere to is infant baptism, which is another work of the flesh.

Yes, its very subtle ! The average Calvinist you talk to will tell you that one for whom Christ died, is not yet justified before God by Christ's Blood, not until they believe, which is mans act !
 

beloved57

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For it would be Unjust of God ?

For it would be Unjust of God ?

For it would be Unjust of God to punish anyone Christ died for, for any sin whatsoever, and if any of them die in unbelief and in their sins as those projected in Jn 8:24, and yet Christ has already died for them, God would be unjust and can be charged with double jeopardy, here's why its so !

Because in Christ their Head, they have fulfilled the Law of God , they have kept all of its most Holy Precepts, and in Him they have all been Eternally Punished already for all their trespasses, be it past, present and future, and forgiven of them all Col 2:13

13 And you, being dead in your sins and the uncircumcision of your flesh, hath he quickened together with him, having forgiven you all trespasses;

They were raised up together with Christ from the dead, after He had been delivered for their offences, and that raising up was because of their Justification from all their sins Rom 4:25 !

And those sins are never laid to their charge 2 Cor 5:19

19 To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation.

God forgave them all because in Christ their Head they were all punished. Even if one for whom He died does not come to faith [because unbelief is the penalty of sin and death] and they remain in unbelief and die in their sins, then God is Unjust, because again, unbelief is nothing but part of the Spiritual consequences of sin and death, but once the consequences of sin and death hath for that sinner been settled by the death and blood of Christ, God MUST give them Faith to believe because His Righteousness and Justice is at stake, so all for whom Christ died do obtain Faith through the Righteousness of God 2 Pet 1:1

Simon Peter, a servant and an apostle of Jesus Christ, to them that have obtained like precious faith with us through the righteousness of God and our Saviour Jesus Christ:

That word righteousness in the greek is dikaiosuné and means:


justice, justness, righteousness

One Translation reads:

From Simon Peter, a slave and apostle of Jesus Christ.

To those who received a faith equal to ours through the justice of our God and savior Jesus Christ. CEB

God doing what is Just and Right because of Christ their Savior satisfying for them all His Law and Justice, So giving them Faith in Him, to believe on Him because of what He hath done for them is Just Rom 3:26


To declare, I say, at this time his righteousness: that he might be just, and the justifier of him which believeth in Jesus.

In other words, those who come to Faith in Jesus is a testimony to God's Righteousness and Justness in Justifying them for the sake of Jesus !
 
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