Free Will

[Nanja]

You need to realize that man's will is separate from God's will. Man's will is not God's will.

False statement.

Dan. 4:35
And all the inhabitants of the earth are reputed as nothing: and he doeth according to his will in the army of heaven, and among the inhabitants of the earth: and none can stay his hand, or say unto him, What doest thou?

 

[JudgeRightly]

False statement.

Dan. 4:35
And all the inhabitants of the earth are reputed as nothing: and he doeth according to his will in the army of heaven, and among the inhabitants of the earth: and none can stay his hand, or say unto him, What doest thou?

Let's look at that verse, capitalizing the words that refer to God:

Dan. 4:35
"And all the inhabitants of the earth are reputed as nothing: and He doeth according to His will in the army of heaven, and among the inhabitants of the earth: and none can stay His hand, or say unto Him, What doest thou?"

Notice that man's will is not even mentioned here. The only will talked about here is God's, this verse is talking about how mighty God is, how He is not accountable to any man. So try again:

Man's will is separate from God's will. Man's will is NOT God's will.

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[beloved57]

From the scriptures above me, you can apply critical thinking and determine that God has given man free will.

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Not one of those scriptures says that men have a freewill. How is it possible? Those in the flesh can't please God Rom 8:8!

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[beloved57]

Those following have seen that you have failed to respond to my commentary, the particular points shared in them, the passages quoted there, and my direct question to you as well. Why is that?

I responded to it with this, what scripture says that man has a freewill?

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[Bright Raven]

I responded to it with this, what scripture says that man has a freewill?

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You have been shown many. Are you blind?

 

[JudgeRightly]

You have been shown many. Are you blind?

Nah, his brain just cant comprehend that he's wrong, so he's in denial.

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[TulipBee]

Which is more important to God, the accuracy of a prophecy? Or someone coming to repentance?

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God runs everything including those you mentioned. You're looking to break us with trick questions to trap us

 

[JudgeRightly]

God runs everything including those you mentioned. You're looking to break us with trick questions to trap us

Answer the question, please.

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[freelight]

I don't think nanja and b57 encourage critical thinking as an important aspect of interpreting the bible

Its apparently lacking, but this is probably understandable for a theology that is devoid of logic, reason or spiritual intelligence, since it has none of these components. - therefore its no great surprise that a proponent of such a 'belief-system' also be lacking.

 

[freelight]

I responded to it with this, what scripture says that man has a freewill?

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That's not an appropriate, respectful or adequate response to my direct questions and the 'scriptures' I provided you with. That's evading the truth. By your lack of proper response and diversion tactic of asking the same lame question, you prove the deficiency of your theology, and the basic philosophical foundation behind it. Hopefully readers of these conversations will use them wisely to their own enlightenment.

 

[popsthebuilder]

False statement.

Dan. 4:35
And all the inhabitants of the earth are reputed as nothing: and he doeth according to his will in the army of heaven, and among the inhabitants of the earth: and none can stay his hand, or say unto him, What doest thou?

Exactly....So how do you honestly contend that it isn't GOD's will for us to have some level of freedom of choice?

Isn't it apparent through all of scripture?



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[TulipBee]

That's not an appropriate, respectful or adequate response to my direct questions and the 'scriptures' I provided you with. That's evading the truth. By your lack of proper response and diversion tactic of asking the same lame question, you prove the deficiency of your theology, and the basic philosophical foundation behind it. Hopefully readers of these conversations will use them wisely to their own enlightenment.

Truth?

 

[TulipBee]

Answer the question, please.

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God arranged both circumstances. Do you not like God doing the arrangements?

 

[TulipBee]

strange reasoning. Jesus did not make Peter deny Him.

Jesus is God so he does what God does and God do what Jesus does.

 

[Evil.Eye.<(I)>]

Truth?

Tulip Bee... I can't resist... you set yourself up.

 

[meshak]

Jesus is God so he does what God does and God do what Jesus does.

You change the Bible the way you want.

Your god is you, friend.

 

[TulipBee]

Tulip Bee... I can't resist... you set yourself up.

I get mine from scriptures, not celestials

 

[TulipBee]

You change the Bible the way you want.

Your god is you, friend.

Silly

 

[meshak]

Silly

Yes, you are silly.

 

[God's Truth]

You teach salvation by works. Those Christ obeyed God for are made righteous by His obedience alone Rom 5:19!

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That is right I teach salvation by works. That is what Jesus tells us.