Free Will

[JudgeRightly]

Dumb question. What scripture says that men have a freewill?

It's not a dumb question. I asked you to clarify, so instead of just saying I'm asking dumb questions, maybe you could oblige me and explain how my stance is wrong.

So let's try again:

Did God predestine babies to be sacrificed on the altar to Molech?

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[Eagles Wings]

Eagles Wings,

I step from my veil of whit. Nang is harsh with people and so I communicate in a way that they clearly understand.

If you write me off, I understand. I genuinely have no ill words or sarcasm for you.

God bless you Eagles Wings

Thank you. I can't speak for Nang, however, what may appear to be harshness is simply passion for the point being made. You have this passion yourself.

I find the respectful exchange between passionate people to be extraordinary, especially those who have spent years reading and studying Scripture.

 

[beloved57]

It really isn't a dumb question. How far is life "pre-determined" for us in your opinion?

My God I believe in has predestined every thing, no exceptions!

 

[JudgeRightly]

My God I believe in has predestined every thing, no exceptions!

Did he predestine children to be sacrificed on the altar to Molech?

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[Evil.Eye.<(I)>]

My God I believe in has predestined every thing, no exceptions!

If your God is Jesus, then we have the same God. Theological differences in belief do not sever us from being siblings in the body. It just means we fight and disagree.

If it brings you comfort to believe that you have no choice in life, and surrender means you are moving every second as told to move, then I now understand why you adamantly fight to protect your stance. I don't have to iterate my stance, as you clearly know it.

I do not count you as serving a foreign God and I would never question that you love Jesus.

I will leave you and all Calvinism be for now. But... if literal Israel or the Jews are bad mouthed or questioned by a single Calvinist as being reprobate, false, or out of God's hands...

I'll take off my Mr. Potato Head kind eyes and put on the angry ones.

 

[Eagles Wings]

-duplicate-

 

[beloved57]

If man cannot come to Christ, then why does Christ ask man to come to Him?

Jn 6:37

Matt 11:28

That is Christ business!

 

[beloved57]

If your God is Jesus, then we have the same God. Theological differences in belief do not sever us from being siblings in the body. It just means we fight and disagree.

We don't believe in the Same God or Christ!

 

[Evil.Eye.<(I)>]

We don't believe in the Same God or Christ!

Then you are now calling me reprobate?

By your statement, you have judged me lost.

 

[steko]

We don't believe in the Same God or Christ!

Whose fault is that?

 

[Evil.Eye.<(I)>]

We don't believe in the Same God or Christ!

You aren't asking for it, but I'm going to give it.

I forgive you for what you are saying. You don't understand what you are saying, and even if you do, I still forgive you. I hope and pray to be with Jesus and see you there too.

Peace, Love and Good Will towards you Beloved57

I know I've been difficult and have pressed you 40,000 different ways, but this is where I recognize the end of debate with you. I'm not innocent, and I can see why you said this.

I forgive you!

 

[beloved57]

Whose fault is that?

God can't sin, He's not under any Law. Sin is the transgression of Law.So then he who transgressed is at fault.

 

[beloved57]

You aren't asking for it, but I'm going to give it.

I forgive you for what you are saying. You don't understand what you are saying, and even if you do, I still forgive you. I hope and pray to be with Jesus and see you there too.

Peace, Love and Good Will towards you Beloved57

I know I've been difficult and have pressed you 40,000 different ways, but this is where I recognize the end of debate with you. I'm not innocent, and I can see why you said this.

I forgive you!

I don't need your forgiveness.Can care less ! Just know that we don't believe in the same God, and I'm Thankful to God for that!

 

[steko]

God can't sin, He's not under any Law. Sin is the transgression of Law.So then he who transgressed is at fault.

(This message was predetermined)

 

[beloved57]

Then you are now calling me reprobate?

By your statement, you have judged me lost.

I can't say 100 % if you are amongst the reprbate, however at this particular time I don't believe you are serving the true God, and I would not fellowship with you in that regard. Just keeping it real!

 

[JudgeRightly]

We don't believe in the Same God or Christ!

Then did your God predestine babies to be sacrificed on the altar to Molech? If so, then answer me this:

Why would God say, "I did not command them, nor did it come into My mind that they should do this abomination?" Was God lying when He said that?

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[beloved57]

(This message was predetermined)

So be it.

 

[steko]

So be it.

(This message was predetermined and was not according to any imagined volition of the poster)

 

[Eagles Wings]

I can't say 100 % if you are amongst the reprbate, however at this particular time I don't believe you are serving the true God, and I would not fellowship with you in that regard. Just keeping it real!

I believe only God knows who is reprobate, which is why we are to present the Gospel indiscriminately.

 

[beloved57]

Then did your God predestine babies to be sacrificed on the altar to Molech? If so, then answer me this:

Why would God say, "I did not command them, nor did it come into My mind that they should do this abomination?" Was God lying when He said that?

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