ECT Forgiving and Forgiveness

[God's Truth]

There is the Message about the earthly kingdom where Christ will
reign on the throne of David. And, there's the Grace Message given
to Paul by the "Ascended Christ." Paul preached that message to
the gentiles. Peter and the other Apostles preached the earthly
Kingdom Message to the House of Israel. Therein lies the difference.

lol

 

[Grosnick Marowbe]

I do not have to insult you as you do me. All I have to do is speak God's Truth and it is offensive to you as nothing else can be.

No! What is offensive to me is, your constant preaching of, "Works will
earn people eternal life."

 

[Grosnick Marowbe]

lol

See, you do have a problem!!

 

[God's Truth]

No! What is offensive to me is, your constant preaching of, "Works will
earn people eternal life."

It is what Jesus says.

 

[Grosnick Marowbe]

You argue constantly with everybody on this forum. Some have basically given up on you.

 

[Grosnick Marowbe]

It is what Jesus says.

The lost sheep of Israel had to mix faith in Christ with works. James
brings that up. Whereas, Paul preaches: Faith without works, in his
Grace Message to the gentiles.

 

[Grosnick Marowbe]

I guess GT ran out of ammo?

 

[chrysostom]

The lost sheep of Israel had to mix faith in Christ with works. .

why?

 

[steko]

When Jesus returns it will be at the Great White Throne Judgment. Everyone will be raised from the dead. The saved will meet Jesus in the air. The wrath will come on the earth.

There will be a new earth, and Jesus will HAND OVER THE KINGDOM TO THE FATHER.

Where do you get that Jesus will rule on this earth with people who reject him?!

Did you ever reject Him?

 

[Grosnick Marowbe]

why?

First of all, let us discover who James is speaking to? James 1:1 states: James 1:1 states: "James, a servant of God and of the Lord Jesus Christ, to the twelve tribes which are scattered abroad, greeting.

Once we've established that: James 2:17 states: "Thus also faith
by itself, if it does not have works, is dead." Which PROVES that the
Israelite's of which James was speaking to, were bound to "works plus
faith.

Whereas, Paul says to the gentile believers in Ephesians 2:8-9 “For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast.”

Thus, two different Messages.

 

[chrysostom]

First of all, let us discover who James is speaking to? James 1:1 states: James 1:1 states: "James, a servant of God and of the Lord Jesus Christ, to the twelve tribes which are scattered abroad, greeting.

Once we've established that, James 2:17 states: "Thus also faith
by itself, if it does not have works, is dead." Which PROVES that the
Israelite's of which James was speaking to, were bound to "works plus
faith.

Whereas, Paul says to the gentile believers in Ephesians 2:8-9 “For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast.”

Thus, two different Messages.

why would there be two different messages?

 

[Grosnick Marowbe]

Peter and the rest of the Apostles preach faith
and works, while Paul, preaches faith without works.

 

[chrysostom]

Peter and the rest of the Apostles preach faith
and works, while Paul, preaches faith without works.

that is the way you interpret the bible
but
you can't explain why there would be two messages?

 

[heir]

that is the way you interpret the bible
but
you can't explain why there would be two messages?

Why does a lost person such as yourself care about what the bible says?

 

[Grosnick Marowbe]

Why does a lost person such as yourself care about what the bible says?

Amen!

 

[Grosnick Marowbe]

I think he's just pulling our strings. He really doesn't care about the answers.

 

[God's Truth]

Did you ever reject Him?

We have to be ready for when Jesus comes again because when he comes again it will not be to bear sin. How are these people who rejected him going to be forgiven if they have no one to forgive their sin?

 

[Grosnick Marowbe]

A friend of mine grew up in the Catholic church and said, the priests etc, really don't want their "Parishioners" reading the Bible.

 

[God's Truth]

First of all, let us discover who James is speaking to? James 1:1 states: James 1:1 states: "James, a servant of God and of the Lord Jesus Christ, to the twelve tribes which are scattered abroad, greeting.

Once we've established that: James 2:17 states: "Thus also faith
by itself, if it does not have works, is dead." Which PROVES that the
Israelite's of which James was speaking to, were bound to "works plus
faith.

Whereas, Paul says to the gentile believers in Ephesians 2:8-9 “For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast.”

Thus, two different Messages.

NOT OF WORKS ARE THE CEREMONIAL WORKS!

 

[Grosnick Marowbe]

I guess that way, the Priest can control their minds to one extent or another?