That doesn't even come close to answering the question.
Jesus said He had other sheep who were not of this sheep pen.
Who were those other sheep?
ECT Christ is the Head of His Bride.
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That doesn't even come close to answering the question.
Jesus said He had other sheep who were not of this sheep pen.
Who were those other sheep?
Paul refers to the church as "the flock"
(Acts 20:29) I know that after I leave, savage wolves will come in among you and will not spare the flock.
Since Paul refers to the church as "the flock", who is the shepherd?
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Where is this heavenly body described?
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I don't care to follow your rabbit trails.
Isa 61:1-6 KJV The Spirit of the Lord GOD is upon me; because the LORD hath anointed me to preach good tidings unto the meek; he hath sent me to bind up the brokenhearted, to proclaim liberty to the captives, and the opening of the prison to them that are bound; (2) To proclaim the acceptable year of the LORD, and the day of vengeance of our God; to comfort all that mourn; (3) To appoint unto them that mourn in Zion, to give unto them beauty for ashes, the oil of joy for mourning, the garment of praise for the spirit of heaviness; that they might be called trees of righteousness, the planting of the LORD, that he might be glorified. (4) And they shall build the old wastes, they shall raise up the former desolations, and they shall repair the waste cities, the desolations of many generations. (5) And strangers shall stand and feed your flocks, and the sons of the alien shall be your plowmen and your vinedressers. (6) But ye shall be named the Priests of the LORD: men shall call you the Ministers of our God: ye shall eat the riches of the Gentiles, and in their glory shall ye boast yourselves.
Jesus quoted this scripture but STOPPED in the middle of the sentence in verse 2. Jesus was rightly dividing.Luk 4:17-21 KJV And there was delivered unto him the book of the prophet Esaias. And when he had opened the book, he found the place where it was written, (18) The Spirit of the Lord is upon me, because he hath anointed me to preach the gospel to the poor; he hath sent me to heal the brokenhearted, to preach deliverance to the captives, and recovering of sight to the blind, to set at liberty them that are bruised, (19) To preach the acceptable year of the Lord. (20) And he closed the book, and he gave it again to the minister, and sat down. And the eyes of all them that were in the synagogue were fastened on him. (21) And he began to say unto them, This day is this scripture fulfilled in your ears.
The remainder of that passage is still future.
You still haven't answered the question.
Who were the other sheep?
Jesus said He had other sheep who were not of this sheep pen.
Who were those other sheep?
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Which church?
So flock MUST always mean sheep and ALWAYS the same sheep.
I guess that wolves would NEVER attack a flock of birds.
One verse overturns the fact that Paul NEVER once calls Jesus OUR shepherd.
You can do better than that.
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Throughout Paul's epistles.
achduke
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I need a more detailed example. I am not seeing it. I would like to see where Paul says believers go to heaven.
Hi , and no matter how many times you tell them , they never seem to believe that EKKLESIA does not means CHURCH , but EKKLESIA means ASSEMBLY , just the the RCC will never see it a;lso !!
There are different ASSEMBLIES in the bible !!
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I'm not going to go down all of your rabbit holes. You love to roam the scripture instead of discussing a single point. It's pretty typical when you can't actually address the point at hand.
There has always only been one church.
I have asked you over and over again who the sheep of the other fold were?
Believers in Christ are never referred to as a flock of birds.
Also, wolves do not generally prey on birds.
Have you ever read the 23rd Psalm?
Christ Jesus is the head of the body
Christ Jesus is the cornerstone of the building
Christ Jesus is the bridegroom of the bride
Christ Jesus is the shepherd of the flock
The fact that you can't tell us who the other sheep from a different fold are is very telling.
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Paul says that believer are already sitting in heavenly places.
Eph 2:4-7 KJV But God, who is rich in mercy, for his great love wherewith he loved us, (5) Even when we were dead in sins, hath quickened us together with Christ, (by grace ye are saved
(6) And hath raised us up together, and made us sit together in heavenly places in Christ Jesus: (7) That in the ages to come he might shew the exceeding riches of his grace in his kindness toward us through Christ Jesus.
(6) And hath raised us up together, and made us sit together in heavenly places in Christ Jesus: (7) That in the ages to come he might shew the exceeding riches of his grace in his kindness toward us through Christ Jesus.
Col 3:1-4 KJV If ye then be risen with Christ, seek those things which are above, where Christ sitteth on the right hand of God. (2) Set your affection on things above, not on things on the earth. (3) For ye are dead, and your life is hid with Christ in God. (4) When Christ, who is our life, shall appear, then shall ye also appear with him in glory.
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Sure it is.
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The Psalm written by the king of Israel? Yes, I have.
Do you want to give the building metaphor a shot?
(Eph 2:20) Together, we are his house, built on the foundation of the apostles and the prophets. And the cornerstone is Christ Jesus himself.
That's Paul speaking to the BOC.
The above says there is ONE BUILDING. It says Christ Jesus is the cornerstone, and that the apostles and prophets are the foundation.
That means church age believers are in the same building as Peter and the 12.
Do you agree that church age believers are in the same building as Peter and the 12?
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Start some more threads if you have other topics to discuss.
P.S. Paul says "I laid the foundation". Wasn't it a little late for that?
The Apostle Paul quotes and/or references Psalms 14 times in his epistle to the Romans.
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Nothing wrong with that.
You must be one of those that think that MAD teaches that EVERYTHING Paul taught was different and somehow conflicts completely with the rest of the revelation of God.
This thread is about the bridegroom and bride metaphor.
Like I said, you MADists have to deny all the metaphors except the body metaphor.
The building metaphor causes you the most problems because the Apostle Paul gives it directly to what you guys call the BOC.
No.
The Apostles and Prophets are the foundation, and Christ Jesus is the cornerstone.
Paul was an Apostle.
Buildings only have one cornerstone. Christ Jesus was the cornerstone for one building.
You can't handle the fact that Peter and the 12 have the same cornerstone as Paul, and are part of the same building.