Aimiel said:
Lord, who then can be saved.
Everyone, of course, God would not allow anyone to go to hell and actually stay there. :duh:
Oops, Jesus didn't say that, did He? He said that whosoever's name wasn't written in The Lamb's Book of Life would be cast into the Lake of Fire. Nowhere does The Bible say anything about anyone ever getting out of the Lake of Fire or hell.
Really?
Rev 22:1 Then he showed me the river of the Water of Life, bright as crystal, issuing from the throne of God and of the Lamb.
Rev 22:2 On either side of the river, midway between it and the main street of the city, was the Tree of Life. It produced twelve kinds of fruit, yielding a fresh crop month by month, and the leaves of the tree served as medicine for the nations.
Rev 22:3 "In future there will be no curse," he said, "but the throne of God and of the Lamb will be in that city. And His servants will render Him holy service and will see His face,
Rev 22:4 and His name will be on their foreheads.
Rev 22:5 And there will be no night there; and they have no need of lamplight or sunlight, for the Lord God will shine upon them, and they will be kings until the Ages of the Ages."
Rev 22:6 And he said to me, "These words are trustworthy and true; and the Lord, the God of the spirits of the Prophets, sent His angel to make known to His servants the things which must soon happen.
Rev 22:7 'I am coming quickly.' Blessed is he who is mindful of the predictions contained in this book."
Rev 22:8 I John heard and saw these things; and when I had heard and seen them, I fell at the feet of the angel who was showing me them--to worship him.
Rev 22:9 But he said to me, "Oh, do not do that. I am a fellow bondservant of yours, and a fellow bondservant of your brethren the Prophets and of those who are mindful of the teachings of this book. Worship God."
Rev 22:10 "Make no secret," he added, "of the meaning of the predictions contained in this book; for the time for their fulfillment is now close at hand.
Rev 22:11 Let the dishonest man act dishonestly still; let the filthy make himself filthy still; let the righteous practise righteousness still; and let the holy be made holy still."
Rev 22:12 "I am coming quickly; and My reward is with Me, that I may requite every man in accordance with what his conduct has been.
Rev 22:13 I am the Alpha and the Omega, the First and the Last, the Beginning and the End.
Rev 22:14 Blessed are those who wash their robes clean, that they may have a right to the Tree of Life, and may go through the gates into the city.
Rev 22:15 The unclean are shut out, and so are all who practise magic, all fornicators, all murderers, and those who worship idols, and every one who loves falsehood and tells lies.
Is that them? Are these the ones cast into the lake of fire and brimstone?
Rev 22:16 "I Jesus have sent My angel for him solemnly to declare these things to you among the Churches. I am the Root and the offspring of David, the bright Morning Star.
Rev 22:17 The Spirit and the Bride say, 'Come;' and whoever hears, let him say, 'Come;' and let those who are thirsty come. Whoever will, let him take the Water of Life, without payment
Who is this invitation leaving out?
Seems to me you have failed to see the rest of the story. You think they never get out of a hopeless condition, while the Bible says something quite different. In fact, it's obviously saying that death will be completely overcome when it's all over, and all things will be in subjection to God. To deny this is to mutilate the scriptures.
But, to you this is ananthama and false doctrine..it therefore shall not even be considered. So you make statements like those above as though they are really true, and rant against Jesus saving all men thinking what you are saying is true when it is obvious it isn't.
Well, at least you guys don't burn people at the stake anymore for believing that Jesus is the savior of all men, especially those that believe.
