TracerBullet
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I know this. Anyone who isn't parroting Fox News sound bites knows this
Bernie Sanders, Anti-American!
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I know this. Anyone who isn't parroting Fox News sound bites knows this
The Berean
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Yes, we know you don't like immigrants. :devil:
brewmama
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Tell that to Bernie
Well, if they are hoping that they'll have an easier time against Sanders, I think they may be setting themselves up to fail. I have always thought Sanders' greater challenge was going to be the primary, not the general. I think his appeal is more widespread than most people appreciate, and the real final battle for the presidency is a fight for independent voters, while Clinton has a lot of support within the Democratic party, her negatives outside of it are huge. It's not hard to make the case that over the past few years, the wealthy have been getting their way an awful lot, through Clinton, Bush, and Obama administrations, and Sanders has as much credibility to make that case as anyone else I can think of.
journey
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It should be obvious:
1 - You can't keep spending more than you take in,
2 - You can't keep borrowing more money to spend on things you can't pay for.
musterion
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Devalue the currency.
That's what taxes are for. :idunno:
journey
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How has that been working out? The taxes are already too high, so many business folks are moving their operations out of this country. This country isn't far from being another Greece. I think that we're looking at big problems soon, and that's without offering any more free stuff that we can't pay for.
musterion
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Related:
Strongly advise any thinking person to carefully and thoughtfully read that link, btw.
TB, you can go watch Teletubbies.
http://www.steynonline.com/7428/it-still-the-demography-stupid
Strongly advise any thinking person to carefully and thoughtfully read that link, btw.
TB, you can go watch Teletubbies.
The fact that large multinational companies can flee is, in itself, a matter of policy. And beyond that, the rich have benefitted from enormous tax cuts, misrepresented as tax cuts for the middle class, as inequality has grown and wages for the majority have declined in real terms.
Ayn Rand envisioned that if you tax all the rich people, they'd flee from the country or cease to be productive. I'd genuinely like to put her theory to the test.
Tinark
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1. It doesn't require spending more money than is taken in. I'm not saying I support making college 100% free, but just pointing out the flaws in your argument.
2. You can keep borrowing at the rate of GDP growth so long as the size of the debt in relation to total GDP doesn't continually rise.
Let them move out, then. Just let the US government make sure that they seize 100 percent of their assets (including any foreign assets they can get their hands on) on the way out, revoke all of their business rights (e.g., copyrights, etc.) and, furthermore, prohibit them from having any trade dealings within our borders.
Not to mention, of course, that on the way out, the US should inspect them very closely for even the slightest signs of criminal wrongdoing.
No system ever invented has proven as confiscatory as capitalism.
ClimateSanity
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brewmama
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That is the most ridiculous thing I have ever heard. Capitalism may not be perfect, but it has brought more people out of poverty than anything else in the world by far, and continues to do so.
It stole people and land, and it mortgages the natural environment against the future. It commodifies lives and exploits workers for profits for owners, transferring wealth to owners. It is far more confiscatory than any other system invented to date.
Well, except for Chinese communism. Which is to say, some compromise between capitalism and socialism.
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Sanders is more a threat to anyone who leans a little to the right. He also is a threat to middle-age persons seeking retirement stability, as well Middle-Class persons who do not want income tax increases. Many moderates, who will accept Clinton, will not go for Sanders; he is to anti-capitalist.