Originally posted by 1Way
Of course you already know that I affirm that God does calamity, so I appreciate that agreement, but your next statement is not only dubious, it's absolutely wrong. God cannot do "anything" and remain right.
But your idea is exactly what is behind the entire sentiment of so many Calvinistic predestinarians. There is no places in the Bible where God is portrayed as living under a different set of morality or standard of righteousness than what we live under.
Rights and wrongs are absolute, just as God's character and ways are eternal. God even teaches us to judge Him despite the fact that we will not find any righteous fault in Him, so any way you look at it, God is truly righteous and just and good, He absolutely can not do evil and sin, and be said to have done no wrong.
That is one of the blackest things you have said, and I fear is one of the blackest beliefs that is in your heart, and when you get to heaven, it will be very good for you to learn to know God for being the truly good and righteous and just God that He really is, He is not the things you dream Him up to being.
You have been dancing all around this issue, being partly ambiguous in terms of God and evil, testing the waters of those who disagree with you as though your passion is to trip us up somewhere and finally find some loophole so that you can freely say that God does sin or evil and even somehow makes it good! I repeat Z Man, it is evil to mix/confound good for evil, it is great wickedness to try to impute evil with God. It is condemnable to even support doing those things.
- Ro 3:8 And [why] not [say], "Let us do evil that good may come"? ——as we are slanderously reported and as some affirm that we say. Their condemnation is just.
I suggest that the only reason you are trying to find some way of connecting God with doing sin or evil, is to do what you should do, make better sense of your theology and faith in God. But you don't have to contradict God's word to do that, you can honestly and openly cross examine your theological preconceptions because they are the one's that should break, not God's word.
Either you accept that it is a condemnable thing to try to swap good for evil, or to say that good ever comes from evil, or you reject it. The truth is that simple, and if you accept that truth, then you know perfectly well, that God can not do evil and remain good, even God is truly good, because He truly does no evil.
You and boogerhead are on a roll, but if God's word will not correct you, neither can we. Please become more (commensurately) conversive in these discussions, life is too short for hundreds of posts only to advance a tiny bit. Again, we covered this ground before, and you are making so many of the same kind of statements, it seems your presenting a rather large amount of futility here. If you will not remain consistent with what you say you believe, then, what's the point of entertaining your beliefs?
Blessings in God's righteousness and goodness
