Alt-righter plows into crowd of anti-racists in Charlottesville

[Town Heretic]

The 'free speech' rally fit under the rotunda. The counter-rally is outside the fence.

Now that would make a reasonable man nervous...so they were probably just fine.

 

[Tambora]

If you want to credit the guys who flew airplanes into the Twin Towers as brave, be my guest. I don't hang the word around that sort's neck, but you're entitled.

I've done no such thing or even hinted I would, you piece of trash.

 

[Town Heretic]

I've done no such thing or even hinted I would, you piece of trash.

If you're going to hang the word brave around everyone's neck who shows up, even those armed with the intent to do violence, that's what you're doing, Tam. And you can take yourself out to that dumpster. I called one young lady who died, defenseless, brave. You trivialized her.

Way to dodge the rest.

 

[Tambora]

You trivialized her.

I did no such thing, you piece of filth.

 

[Town Heretic]

I did no such thing, you piece of filth.

Yeah, I'm just not going to do that. You find your level and stay with it though. You absolutely did. You remind me of the woman who called the former president's wife a gorilla and then declared she wasn't a racist. If that's all it takes then no. You clearly said you didn't mean to offer disrespect and that you felt for her, as you calmly went about demonstrating the insincerity of those statements.


For those who missed her dumpster fire of a post, here's the relevant (well, to this disagreement) part:

I'd noted that the young woman who died in Charlottesville had been fearful about the rally, but she went anyway, because she thought it was important to stand up to the Nazis, and White Supremacists, etc. She went unarmed and she went to stand peacefully. Then someone ran her down and killed her for doing it.

I think what she did is brave. I think I'd be proud of her if she were my child. I said so.

Brave?
For holding a sign at a rally protest?

See, that's trivializing.

I haven't seen any account of her holding a sign, but I'd set out pretty clearly what for. I just did it again above this.

Then there was a whole lot of brave people there on every side.

There Tam plays the moral equivalence card. I think that's been addressed by enough people.

I feel awful about what happened to the lady, so I mean no disrespect toward her.

Then that's where the statement ends and you go another route to make any other point. But she doesn't. This is voluntary. Here comes Tam showing her "but" which is what people who don't really mean what they say do after they say what they think they have to in order to avoid looking like what they generally are.

But if we are going to throw around the word "BRAVE" to those that show up to a protest rally expressing their views where you are already leery that violence is likely to occur, then everyone there was "BRAVE".

Of course, anyone who can read understands that's not what I did.

Here comes the equivalence card again.

Can be said of all that were there.

And that was that.

 

[Tambora]

You remind me of the woman who called the former president's wife a gorilla and then declared she wasn't a racist.

Vomit out all the slander about me you want to, Your Worthlessness.

 

[Town Heretic]

Vomit out all the slander about me you want to, Your Worthlessness.

So there's another word you don't understand. If you can be libeled by being quoted then sure, that's what just happened.

I said Tam trivialized the woman who died. She called me a name and stamped her foot. Here's the counter, again:

I'd noted that the young woman who died in Charlottesville had been fearful about the rally, but she went anyway, because she thought it was important to stand up to the Nazis, and White Supremacists, etc. She went unarmed and she went to stand peacefully. Then someone ran her down and killed her for doing it.

I think what she did is brave. I think I'd be proud of her if she were my child. I said so.

Tam reduced her fear to leery. And Tam said:

Brave?
For holding a sign at a rally protest?

See, that's trivializing.

 

[annabenedetti]

It's a question, the point is to get an answer.
Here's the question again;

I'm more interested in the real intent behind your question, which implies: she deserved it.

1. That intersection is the outer boundary of the downtown pedestrian mall. I don't know if the crowd spilled out onto the outer street, and whether or not their permit allowed it.

However.

2. The reason she died is because a crazed alt-righter accelerated into a crowd of people and smashed into them.

You know that. Yet you want to dance around asking why she was in between two cars. Why not have the guts to say outright what you're really thinking?

 

[Tambora]

I said Tam trivialized the woman who died.

I have shown no malice, but only remorse and sorrow for the lady that was killed

So keep right on with your twisted story, you slanderous slimeball.

 

[patrick jane]

I don't see anything brave about attending an anti-free speech rally

 

[annabenedetti]

I have shown no malice, but only remorse and sorrow for the lady that was killed

So keep right on with your twisted story, you slanderous slimeball.

You seem to imply she was foolish and less than respectable.

It seems you've judged her and found her wanting, but you're sorry she's dead. That may be less than malice but certainly appears to qualify your sorrow.

Let's face it, Tambora. I do believe you're sorry that someone was killed, but I think you have nothing but disdain and revulsion for anyone on that side of the demonstration. After all, you said earlier if you had to choose, it would be her side you'd have in your cross hairs.

You would think that respectable folks would stay home and care for their family instead of ranting and raving down the street where they KNOW the probability of being caught in the crossfire by some nutso being there.
If one so chooses to go, best be prepared for the likelihood of being caught in the crossfire.

I see them more as foolish than victim.
I mean, come on, show up at a KKK, ANTIFA, BLM group rally and expect nothing bad to happen????
Get real.

 

[annabenedetti]

I don't see anything brave about attending an anti-free speech rally

The one in Boston?

The one where "anyone else who supports Trump or just hates leftists are encouraged to attend?"

And that "if one is a skinhead, they should dress like a normie, but assist during skirmishes?"



--from thegoldwater.com/news/2407-Boston-Free-Speech-Rally-MaY-13th-EDITION

 

[patrick jane]

The one in Boston?

The one where "anyone else who supports Trump or just hates leftists are encouraged to attend?"

And that "if one is a skinhead, they should dress like a normie, but assist during skirmishes?"



--from thegoldwater.com/news/2407-Boston-Free-Speech-Rally-MaY-13th-EDITION

Once again, as usual, you seek out bad comments from the alt right with no thought of the radical left's hate speech

 

[annabenedetti]

Once again, as usual, you seek out bad comments from the alt right with no thought of the radical left's hate speech

I'm asking you if that's the kind of "free speech" you had in mind.

Because if it is, you shouldn't be surprised when others counter it with their own free speech.

 

[Tambora]

You seem to imply she was foolish and less than respectable.

It seems you've judged her and found her wanting, but you're sorry she's dead. That may be less than malice but certainly appears to qualify your sorrow.

Let's face it, Tambora. I do believe you're sorry that someone was killed, but I think you have nothing but disdain and revulsion for anyone on that side of the demonstration. After all, you said earlier if you had to choose, it would be her side you'd have in your crosshairs.

Let it all out, Your Lowness.

It's all there in this thread for everyone to see that I blame the nut in the car for killing her, and I have nothing but remorse for what happened.

And as for your slanderous remark that I would have that lady in my cross-hairs, you are flat out wrong.
I said if I was strolling through a park and got caught between ... (PAY ATTENTION) ... ANTIFA and KKK, I'm aiming at ANTIFA first.

Was the lady a member of ANTIFA?

 

[patrick jane]

I'm asking you if that's the kind of "free speech" you had in mind.

Because if it is, you shouldn't be surprised when others counter it with their own free speech.

Free speech is exactly that. Whether you like it or not, whether you agree or not, Americans are FREE to speak about almost everything. Just because snowflakes only want to hear about socialist ideals and free government handouts, doesn't mean they can shut down speech they don't like.

 

[annabenedetti]

Let it all out, Your Lowness.

You're the one who's ranting and raving here.

Or, how was it you said it:

Working to raise a fuss.
Any fuss will do.

It's all there in this thread for everyone to see that I blame the nut in the car for killing her, and I have nothing but remorse for what happened.

No one said otherwise. That's a straw man you're fighting.

And as for your slanderous remark that I would have that lady in my cross-hairs, you are flat out wrong.

I said "her side."

Get your facts straight. Who do you think she was marching with?

I said if I was strolling through a park and got caught between ... (PAY ATTENTION) ... ANTIFA and KKK, I'm aiming at ANTIFA first.

Was the lady a member of ANTIFA?

Were they on her side? In her crowd?


Raise a fuss all you want. It won't change anything.

 

[annabenedetti]

Free speech is exactly that. Whether you like it or not, whether you agree or not, Americans are FREE to speak about almost everything. Just because snowflakes only want to hear about socialist ideals and free government handouts, doesn't mean they can shut down speech they don't like.

If what they do is within the law, both sides are free. That's the way it works.

 

[Tambora]

You're the one who's ranting and raving here.

I'm having a ball watching you and Town slander me about my feelings on the lady being killed. or any of the harm that was done.
It's hilarious to watch ya'll in action.

I said "her side."

Was she a member of ANTIFA?

Get your facts straight. Who do you think she was marching with?

I'm asking you because I don't know.
Was she a member of ANTIFA?

Raise a fuss all you want. It won't change anything.

Ya'll are the ones raising a fuss and trying to make me look unsympathetic and uncaring and trivializing the lady.
Nothing like that went through my mind.
And you are both gutter slime for trying to paint me that way.

 

[annabenedetti]

I'm having a ball watching you and Town slander me about my feelings on the lady being killed. or any of the harm that was done.
It's hilarious to watch ya'll in action.
Was she a member of ANTIFA?
I'm asking you because I don't know.
Was she a member of ANTIFA?
Ya'll are the ones raising a fuss and trying to make me look unsympathetic and uncaring and trivializing the lady.
Nothing like that went through my mind.
And you are both gutter slime for trying to paint me that way.

Thanks for sharing your feelings.