Act NOW to Save Terri Schiavo!

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Anyone think it odd or hypocritical that a pro-choicer like Jesse Jackson has suddenly injected himself into this mess?
 

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granite1010 said:
Anyone think it odd or hypocritical that a pro-choicer like Jesse Jackson has suddenly injected himself into this mess?
Or that the "pro-life Christians" are sucking up to him like leeches? I caught a few minutes of Sean Hannity's radio show yesterday and heard Hannity and Randall Terry extolling Jackson ... "The Reverend Jackson this..." and "The Reverend Jackson that..." it was so hypocritical and disingenuous it was nauseating...
 

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Zakath said:
Or that the "pro-life Christians" are sucking up to him like leeches? I caught a few minutes of Sean Hannity's radio show yesterday and heard Hannity and Randall Terry extolling Jackson ... "The Reverend Jackson this..." and "The Reverend Jackson that..." it was so hypocritical and disingenuous it was nauseating...

Strange bedfellows. It's pretty disappointing that they're pretty much whoring themselves to whoever can get prime time.
 

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granite1010 said:
Strange bedfellows. It's pretty disappointing that they're pretty much whoring themselves to whoever can get prime time.
Are you really that dense? The enemy of my enemy is my friend. This applies in this case. They would accept help from the devil if he could save their daughter. Wake up...:doh: Is that straight enough for ya?
 

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Sean openly admits that he has almost NEVER agreed with Jesse Jackson in the past. Nobody is expecting Jackson to suddenly change his liberal politics, but why not allow him a voice if he agrees with us on this particular issue? If he can get Terri's feeding tube reinstalled [although I think it's too late to save her even if he does], he should be supported by us ON THIS SINGLE ISSUE.
 

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BillyBob said:
Sean openly admits that he has almost NEVER agreed with Jesse Jackson in the past. Nobody is expecting Jackson to suddenly change his liberal politics, but why not allow him a voice if he agrees with us on this particular issue? If he can get Terri's feeding tube reinstalled [although I think it's too late to save her even if he does], he should be supported by us ON THIS SINGLE ISSUE.
:up:
 

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Zakath said:
Or that the "pro-life Christians" are sucking up to him like leeches? I caught a few minutes of Sean Hannity's radio show yesterday and heard Hannity and Randall Terry extolling Jackson ... "The Reverend Jackson this..." and "The Reverend Jackson that..." it was so hypocritical and disingenuous it was nauseating...
Zakath, I don't have to agree with everything a person does or says or believes to aknowledge when they are correct on an issue.

I find the "Reverend" (I sure don't revere him) Jesse Jackson to be personally abhorrent. He's a conniving disingenuous ...whoops, friendship week, and besides it wouldn't get past the built in censor.:shut: I have no respect for him whatsoever.

But on this issue, I believe that he is correct.
 

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Art Deco said:
Are you really that dense? The enemy of my enemy is my friend. This applies in this case. They would accept help from the devil if he could save their daughter. Wake up...:doh: Is that straight enough for ya?

That's convenient but hardly consistent. A philandering race-baiter like Jackson is the last person in the world I expected the right to cozy up to; like I said, strange bedfellows.
 

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granite1010 said:
That's convenient but hardly consistent. A philandering race-baiter like Jackson is the last person in the world I expected the right to cozy up to; like I said, strange bedfellows.
Perhaps the ends justify the means?
 

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granite1010 said:
That's convenient but hardly consistent. A philandering race-baiter like Jackson is the last person in the world I expected the right to cozy up to; like I said, strange bedfellows.
Granite, I felt that Bill Clinton was right a couple of times, and I sure didn't hold much stock in him. I wish I could remember what those times were....:think:

And many times I've had to "agree to disagree" with people I respected on issues where I took exception with them.

Jesse Jackson is a media whore. I don't think that he contributes any credibility when he supports this issue because he has no credibility to begin with. My suspicion is that Jesse Jackson is primarily serving Jesse Jackson, as usual.

But on this occasion, I think that he's on the right side.
 

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Crow said:
Granite, I felt that Bill Clinton was right a couple of times, and I sure didn't hold much stock in him. I wish I could remember what those times were....:think:

And many times I've had to "agree to disagree" with people I respected on issues where I took exception with them.

Jesse Jackson is a media whore. I don't think that he contributes any credibility when he supports this issue because he has no credibility to begin with. My suspicion is that Jesse Jackson is primarily serving Jesse Jackson, as usual.

But on this occasion, I think that he's on the right side.

:shocked:

SLICK WILLY, of all people!? Crow, I'm astonied!:chuckle:

Well, you throw enough against a wall and something's gonna stick.

I agree: Jackson loves the limelight and sees a good thing in exploiting the Schiavo tragedy. Whether or not he really cares about the woman is something else altogether.
 

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Wednesday, March 30, 2005 6:37 p.m. EST

Schindlers: Impeach Fla. Judge

A spokesman for the family of Terri Schindler Schiavo said Wednesday the Florida judge presiding over her case "ignores the state’s laws and orders the premeditated killing of a disabled Florida woman by her husband."

Pamela Hennessy, media director for the Terri Schindler-Schiavo Foundation, in a press release Wednesday called on disability and eldercare advocates to press for Circuit Judge George Greer’s "immediate impeachment."


"If there is a single person following this who doesn’t believe Judge Greer has legislated from the bench, trampled Florida’s laws and deprived Terri Schiavo of her retained rights, they are simply not paying attention," Hennessy said in a statement.

According to the foundation’s press release, on Tuesday and Wednesday Greer issued three orders that the foundation said all but assures Schiavo’s death. First, Greer ordered that the family may not introduce oral nutrition and hydration following the removal of Terri’s gastric feeding tube.

The foundation pointed out that Florida Statute 744.3215 (Rights of Persons Determined Incapacitated) requires that incapacitated people cannot be deprived of food and water.

"Ordering that Terri Schiavo may not receive nutrition or hydration naturally is against the law, in the opinion of the Foundation," it said in a statement.

Second, according to the foundation, Greer ruled that no further neurological tests may be conducted on Terri, using functional MRI to determine if she is in a "persistent vegetative state," as Greer found in 2002, or if Terri is "minimally conscious."

The foundation pointed out that Florida Statute 765.404, which defines persistent vegetative state, requires that the condition be determined and diagnosed as permanent prior to the withdrawal of life-prolonging means. Also, Florida Statute 765.309 prevents mercy killing and assisted suicide.

The foundation said that unless the "true neurological condition of Terri Schiavo" was determined prior to the removal of the feeding tube, Greer’s order amounts to "a directive for her guardian to commit either a mercy killing or assisted suicide."

And third, "Greer denied an order from a judgment based on his error in dismissing pertinent testimony in 2000 that would assist the court in determining Terri Schiavo’s true end of life wishes," the foundation added.

It pointed to Florida Statute 765.404, which says that clear and convincing evidence of the ward’s intent for medical treatment must be established.

"The only evidence in support of removing Terri’s feeding tube was the self-serving hearsay testimony of her guardian (which is not admissible under FS 90.602) and hearsay from two members of his immediate family," the foundation said.

"Greer systematically ruled that testimony from Terri’s friends and family was unreliable or not credible. His failure to consider all evidence of Terri Schiavo’s attitude towards life-prolonging measures, in the Foundation’s opinion, is a clear violation of Florida Statutes," it concluded.

© 2005 CNSNews.com
 
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