Act NOW to Save Terri Schiavo!
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Randall Terry is an agent provocateur, nothing more, and his presence in this situation discredits the efforts of the protestors.
Staging events like dramatically walking towards the hospital with water in hand is a very, very cheap trick. If these people had any respect for Terri or her family they'd quit stealing the limelight and getting themselves arrested. They've turned this mess into even more of a circus than before.
Sad and cheap.
Staging events like dramatically walking towards the hospital with water in hand is a very, very cheap trick. If these people had any respect for Terri or her family they'd quit stealing the limelight and getting themselves arrested. They've turned this mess into even more of a circus than before.
Sad and cheap.
One man's provocateur is another man's freedom fighter. Are you a member of the culture of death or the culture of life?granite1010 said:
Images are worth a thousand words. You knew that. America's soul is on trial here. Let them demonstrate. At least they're not burning the American flag...
Zakath
Resident Atheist
Yup. And one man's freedom fighter is another man's terrorist.Art Deco said:
And so, apparently, do media mongrels, hungry for national camera time and publicity.
Quietly and orderly, yes. For all their claims of respecting the family, they should respect the rights of the Shindlers in a difficult time, as well as their own desires.
Art Deco said:
Art, I am not going to repeat what I've said already. (Ah, screw it; I'm pro-life, I've said it repeatedly, you know it, and Christianity doesn't have the market cornered on the pro-life movement.)
"Images" are something if they're effectual. Girl burned with napalm in Vietnam. Zapruder film. Film footage at Dachau. The Fab Four on Ed Sullivan. An image is an icon and stays that way so long as it provokes for the right reason. Getting arrested pointlessly for ceremonially holding a glass of water is counterproductive, childish, foolish, and absolutely selfish.
The Schindlers want the madness to stop and now the crowd filling up this psycho circus is saying hell, no, we won't go. Exactly what's wrong with this picture here? We've been asked to respect Terri's wishes (whatever they actually were). Now her own parents' requests aren't getting honored by the same people trying to save Terri.
Granite, if you are truly pro-life, support the effort to save Terri Schindler.granite1010 said:
I'm sure you remember the documentary film showing the Warsaw Gheto where the Nazi German soldiers intercepted a young child trying to bring potatos into the starving Jews. under his sweater. They made the child empty the potatos on the ground at gun point laughing at his tears. Fast fowrard where the neo-Nazis dressed in cops uniforms, intercepted the 10 year old boy with a glass of water for Terri Schindler. He was frisked (patted down) his hands were placed behind his back and was hand cuffed by four of Amerika's finest.
What ever they are? So let's all rush to kill her...Zieg Heil Judge Greer...:madmad:
Art Deco said:
"Support" it how? Sorry, but yakking into a microphone for ten minutes and grandstanding against the express wishes of the woman's family is an ego trip. That's not support, Art; it's called bloviating, and stuffed shirts do it all the time. Talk is cheap.
(FYI: I know what "frisking" is, so a parathentical explanation ain't necessary.)
The Warsaw analogy isn't accurate, like most. The smuggler faced death; these protestors face a slap on the wrist. The smuggler was acting in secret; the crowds mugging for the cameras are getting their fifteen minutes. There weren't crowds of Jews whose fate was being decided by courts, the Reichstag, and the local governor, in an open society with a free press and public, tolerated debate. As I've said before: these idiotic Nazi comparisons get old because they're overused, knee jerk, intellectually lazy, and thin. Try-try again.
Something else. The bleeding hearts dramatically carrying water towards the hospital know full well they will be arrested. They are deliberately causing a ruccus. They're baiting, Art. Smugglers sneaking food into the ghetto were doing just that: SNEAKING IT IN. They weren't interested in Der Spiegel running a cover story or having a documentary made (for obvious reasons which undercut the comparison you made).
They're not heroes, Art. They're stirring the pot for the sake of stirring. Announcing at the top of your lungs that you're "bringing Terri water!" guarantees your arrest, and guarantees you haven't alleviated the woman's thirst one whit.
And if we are all very honest, we have to admit none of us knows for certain what Terri's wishes REALLY were. We will probably never know.
Are you aware that other people may read "frisking" and may not know what it means? Save your impatience for more important things.granite1010 said:
Posted by Granite:
Not if we allow her to be killed. We will never know. She will take the answer to the grave thanks to the supporters of the "Culture of Death."
Shimei said:
Shimei, I have said before that the best thing would be for her parents to care for her. Unfortunately that doesn't look like it's going to happen. And protestors getting arrested are not helping Terri's family.
Do not imply, ever, that I support abortion or euthanasia in any way, shape, or form. For all you people do in preaching about false witness you sling it around pretty freely.
Have a beef with me, PM.
Zakath
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I've heard virtually the same linking argument used by some Christians who claim that one cannot be pro-life and support captial punishment.Shimei said:
For those of us on the outside looking in, trying to make sense of all the conflicting positions on "pro" this and "anti" that held by people claiming the same moral basis for their opposing views can be a bit confusing.