A portrait of Jesus in a school? Seriously?

[Jose Fly]

Yes, you can find them too if you use google.

So can you, and since you're the one who insists the school is on the right side of the law, you should have no problem finding a case like this where the school prevailed in court.

I also personally know of one...

Sorry, but "Uh....this one time..." doesn't work.

 

[fool]

Yes, you can find them too if you use google. I also personally know of one where an elementary school, posted happy birthday Jesus at Christmas and was threatened by the ACLU, it wasnt removed and they never did anything about it and they still do it every year. Think that would be left alone, if they actually had a legal leg to stand on?

You mean this one;
http://www.firstamendmentcenter.org/alabama-school-board-jewish-family-settle-lawsuit

 

[Angel4Truth]

You mean this one;
http://www.firstamendmentcenter.org/alabama-school-board-jewish-family-settle-lawsuit

Nope.

 

[Jose Fly]

You mean this one;
http://www.firstamendmentcenter.org/alabama-school-board-jewish-family-settle-lawsuit

If so, that certainly supports my side of this debate, since according to the settlement...

"requires teachers and staff to “refrain from organizing or sanctioning organized religious activities including vocal prayer, Bible or religious devotions, scriptural readings or distribution of pamphlets during instructional time.

“The public-address system or assemblies are not to be used for prayer or religious messages,” continued the decree, which also ordered “that there be no invocations at graduation exercises and sporting events.”"

 

[Angel4Truth]

So can you, and since you're the one who insists the school is on the right side of the law, you should have no problem finding a case like this where the school prevailed in court.



Sorry, but "Uh....this one time..." doesn't work.

If you're too lazy to look them up, oh well.

I also know of high schools where students can opt out of evolution teachings in biology and get study hall while thats going on and get an automatic A for that part of the course for their freedom of religion.

I bet you hate that.

 

[fool]

Nope.

What did you have in mind?
That's the only one that comes up in the first two pages of a "school sued for happy birthday Jesus" Google search.

 

[Angel4Truth]

What did you have in mind?
That's the only one that comes up in the first two pages of a "school sued for happy birthday Jesus" Google search.

I said they were threatened, i didnt say they were sued. They said no to the threat - they were threatened with lawsuit and they told the ACLU to go ahead, and the ACLU didnt press it anymore and nothing more came of it.

Think they would have actually sued them if they could?

 

[Jose Fly]

If you're too lazy to look them up, oh well.

LOL! So this is pretty much your SOP now? Assert that there are other cases out there that prove you right, but claim that it's everyone else's responsibility to go look them up?

How cowardly and dishonest of you.

I also know of high schools where students can opt out of evolution teachings in biology and get study hall while thats going on and get an automatic A for that part of the course.

Like I said, "Um....this one time..." doesn't work. You and I both know you don't know of a single case like the one in the OP, where the school has prevailed in court. You know it, I know it, and you know that I know it.

But your extreme pride won't let you admit it and you'd rather portray yourself as an ignorant fool instead. So be it.

 

[Angel4Truth]

LOL! So this is pretty much your SOP now? Assert that there are other cases out there that prove you right, but claim that it's everyone else's responsibility to go look them up?

How cowardly and dishonest of you.



Like I said, "Um....this one time..." doesn't work. You and I both know you don't know of a single case like the one in the OP, where the school has prevailed in court. You know it, I know it, and you know that I know it.

But your extreme pride won't let you admit it and you'd rather portray yourself as an ignorant fool instead. So be it.

How lazy you are, ive already learned, if someone actually cares for information, they will look it up. If you want to know, you can look it up. :cheers:

 

[fool]

If you're too lazy to look them up, oh well.

I also know of high schools where students can opt out of evolution teachings in biology and get study hall while thats going on and get an automatic A for that part of the course for their freedom of religion.

I'm not finding that on the Google either.
There was something proposed in Missouri but it died in commitee.

 

[Jose Fly]

How lazy you are, ive already learned, if someone actually cares for information, they will look it up. If you want to know, you can look it up. :cheers:

I looked, didn't find a single example of a school prevailing in court in a case similar to the OP.

How about some details to help the search? About when? What school district? What was the religious issue?

 

[fool]

I said they were threatened, i didnt say they were sued. They said no to the threat - they were threatened with lawsuit and they told the ACLU to go ahead, and the ACLU didnt press it anymore and nothing more came of it.

Think they would have actually sued them if they could?

Whoever they were sueing on behalf of backed out.
As you've seen with the example provided they would have lost just like the other school was going to before they caved.

 

[Angel4Truth]

I'm not finding that on the Google either.
There was something proposed in Missouri but it died in commitee.

Doesnt mean there arent schools there that do it anyway.

 

[fool]

Doesnt mean there arent schools there that do it anyway.

Right, and some schools let kids smoke on campus.
That doesn't make it legal.

 

[Angel4Truth]

Whoever they were sueing on behalf of backed out.
As you've seen with the example provided they would have lost just like the other school was going to before they caved.

Why would they lose with happy birthday Jesus, the actual federal holiday of Christmas, states by congress that it was instituted for the celebration of the birth of Jesus Christ.

 

[Angel4Truth]

Right, and some schools let kids smoke on campus.
That doesn't make it legal.

Since it was made illegal for anyone under 19 to purchase tobacco?

Where?

You sure you arent talking about a long time ago?

 

[Angel4Truth]

Looked it up, cant find any in america, only in the UK

 

[fool]

Why would they lose with happy birthday Jesus, the actual federal holiday of Christmas, states by congress that it was instituted for the celebration of the birth of Jesus Christ.

Cause that's how it works.
There's examples everywhere.
https://www.google.com/webhp?source...v=2&ie=UTF-8#q=school loses lawsuit christmas

 

[Jose Fly]

How lazy you are, ive already learned, if someone actually cares for information, they will look it up. If you want to know, you can look it up. :cheers:

I looked, didn't find a single example of a school prevailing in court in a case similar to the OP.

How about some details to help the search? About when? What school district? What was the religious issue?

 

[Angel4Truth]

Cause that's how it works.
There's examples everywhere.
https://www.google.com/webhp?source...v=2&ie=UTF-8#q=school loses lawsuit christmas

yes, they say they canceled because of threats, but everyone doesn't cave to threats.

The very law for Christmas being a national holiday, says specifically that its for the celebration of the birth of Christ.

You ready to give back any holiday pay and paid time off youve received for it?