A homosexual 2014

Arthur Brain

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Get a bible, there is a reason we have one, read it - it is the word of God, He didnt leave it just in fallible mans hands, we have His word.

Ask me again, get the same answer - heed it or depend on your own 'wisdom'

Which one? Or doesn't that matter, because they're not all the same where it comes to proper English translation of the original texts or the closest such could come.

Then again, you seem more concerned in making presumptions up regardless.
 

Arthur Brain

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Well, from this I can only take it that you don't know about the translations for 'hell' then, because you have not answered any of that in other threads. If you had I wouldn't be asking you for what you knew as regards Gehenna/Hades/Tartarus/Sheol from the original texts now. If you want to regard that as 'mocking' you then it actually isn't, and if you want to flippantly state that I don't believe properly because I don't go along with your belief in an eternal state of metaphorical suffering then have at it. It doesn't negate the fact that you use metaphor when it suits and leave a literal take behind if you rely on that as a yardstick.

If you cared about 'truth' so much you'd quit telling those who disagree with your interpretation of things that they're simply 'wrong' and provide something to back it up with. If you have no idea as regards the origins of the actual 'hell' doctrine or the original texts then you're just blowing in the wind. It should give any compassionate person pause for thought that a doctrine that has people thrown in a state of inescapable suffering is actually the *truth*...

Oh okay Angel. I'll just quote my own post in regards to your recent 'reply' but sans any dramatic red font...

If you can't even make an effort at addressing the original texts and the varying descriptors aka Gehenna etc then you just believe what you want. It's certainly easier that way I guess...

:plain:
 

Angel4Truth

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Oh okay Angel. I'll just quote my own post in regards to your recent 'reply' but sans any dramatic red font...

The dramatic red font, was due to your seemingly inability to read that line the first time i posted it - you ignored it and continued, so i wanted to make certain you didnt miss it again. Thanks for showing it worked! You had to admit youve seen it!
 

zoo22

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Can you explain why res/sod was mentioned when the thread/topic didn't appear to be about him at all?

Knight brought up how much he loves his neighbors and comes down on them for their sins. I don't think so. I think it's selective. I think it's a soundbite. Sod's an example of a TOL sleazeball that sows discord, lies, backbites so forth that besides a slap on the wrist now and then, they ignore, or even celebrate or encourage. That's how TOL rolls. We all know that, right?
 

Catholic Crusader

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Knight brought up how much he loves his neighbors and comes down on them for their sins........

That's what Jesus did. Jesus, as Son of God, loves all mankind, yet at the same time he slammed sinners and had no shortage of insults in his arsenal for them: Hypocirites, Broods of Vipers... ....he had some doozies.
 

zoo22

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That's what Jesus did. Jesus, as Son of God, loves all mankind, yet at the same time he slammed sinners and had no shortage of insults in his arsenal for them: Hypocirites, Broods of Vipers... ....he had some doozies.

I'm curious, did Jesus do that selectively? Like, did he turn the blind eye on some folks?

Also, why is it that you deleted half my post and ignored the gist, which is about being selective? (That's rhetorical, by the way).
 

Arthur Brain

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That's what Jesus did. Jesus, as Son of God, loves all mankind, yet at the same time he slammed sinners and had no shortage of insults in his arsenal for them: Hypocirites, Broods of Vipers... ....he had some doozies.

Hmm, as I recall the harshest terms were directed towards the legalists, the self righteous abusers of their own position and authority, the 'religious' leaders etc, not the 'common people' else show that by all means. Some people try to make out that Jesus called a woman a dog at one point although why Jesus would insult a woman so and then heal her daughter from affliction afterwards kinda takes the wind out of that particular sail.
 
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Nathon Detroit

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Knight brought up how much he loves his neighbors and comes down on them for their sins. I don't think so. I think it's selective. I think it's a soundbite. Sod's an example of a TOL sleazeball that sows discord, lies, backbites so forth that besides a slap on the wrist now and then, they ignore, or even celebrate or encourage. That's how TOL rolls. We all know that, right?
Lets examine what a tortured point you are attempting to make.

As best as I can tell your point is that I am a hypocrite because I say we shouldn't celebrate the homosexual lifestyle yet SOD and resurrected post on TOL.

1. It's merely your assertion that SOD are: "sleazeballs", "liars", and "backbiters".

2. In order for your point to even remotely make sense it would have to be obvious to everyone that by me allowing SOD and resurrected to post on TOL adds up to me celebrating their lifestyle. Obviously... that's asinine. (after all.... I let you post here as well) :)

3. By you ignoring the fact that I have banned both SOD and resurrected for infractions on TOL proves that at the very least I don't "encourage" their behavior.

Therefore... not only is the premise of your point a tortured stretch, the basic and obvious facts don't even lend a hand to your assertions.
 

zoo22

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Lets examine what a tortured point you are attempting to make.

As best as I can tell your point is that I am a hypocrite because I say we shouldn't celebrate the homosexual lifestyle yet SOD and resurrected post on TOL.

1. It's merely your assertion that SOD are: "sleazeballs", "liars", and "backbiters".

2. In order for your point to even remotely make sense it would have to be obvious to everyone that by me allowing SOD and resurrected to post on TOL adds up to me celebrating their lifestyle. Obviously... that's asinine. (after all.... I let you post here as well) :)

3. By you ignoring the fact that I have banned both SOD and resurrected for infractions on TOL proves that at the very least I don't "encourage" their behavior.

Therefore... not only is the premise of your point a tortured stretch, the basic and obvious facts don't even lend a hand to your assertions.

Okay, well then there ya go. Sounds good, Knight. :wave: You sure showed me. Did anyone think it would be otherwise? :chuckle:

I like the bolded "therefore..." nice touch.

And oh, it's merely my "assertion" that sod's a liar a sleazeball and a backbiter? Gotcha... Yeah, that must be it.
 

annabenedetti

like marbles on glass
Lets examine what a tortured point you are attempting to make.

As best as I can tell your point is that I am a hypocrite because I say we shouldn't celebrate the homosexual lifestyle yet SOD and resurrected post on TOL.

1. It's merely your assertion that SOD are: "sleazeballs", "liars", and "backbiters".

2. In order for your point to even remotely make sense it would have to be obvious to everyone that by me allowing SOD and resurrected to post on TOL adds up to me celebrating their lifestyle. Obviously... that's asinine. (after all.... I let you post here as well) :)

3. By you ignoring the fact that I have banned both SOD and resurrected for infractions on TOL proves that at the very least I don't "encourage" their behavior.

Therefore... not only is the premise of your point a tortured stretch, the basic and obvious facts don't even lend a hand to your assertions.


You think sod and resurrected are two different people? You don't know they're one and the same person?

resurrected = sod (some other dude) = Koban?
 

Traditio

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Zoo and Anna, I'm just going to point out:

Knight is never going to side with you about ACW and Resurrected. It is not in his interests to do so. He runs a website which caters especially to far right fundamentalists, and far right fundamentalists pay the biggest subscriptions on this site (so it seems).

And frankly, even though you do have fairly large subscriptions, he has no reason to listen to your complaints. Because you'll complain and complain, whine and whine...and yet still send him money.

So the joke's on you, isn't it? :idunno:
 

annabenedetti

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Zoo and Anna, I'm just going to point out:

Knight is never going to side with you about ACW and Resurrected. It is not in his interests to do so. He runs a website which caters especially to far right fundamentalists, and far right fundamentalists pay the biggest subscriptions on this site (so it seems).

And frankly, even though you do have fairly large subscriptions, he has no reason to listen to your complaints. Because you'll complain and complain, whine and whine...and yet still send him money.

So the joke's on you, isn't it? :idunno:

So are you whining when you complain and complain about me and my subscription, which you've done on numerous occasions?
 

Arthur Brain

Well-known member
Zoo and Anna, I'm just going to point out:

Knight is never going to side with you about ACW and Resurrected. It is not in his interests to do so. He runs a website which caters especially to far right fundamentalists, and far right fundamentalists pay the biggest subscriptions on this site (so it seems).

And frankly, even though you do have fairly large subscriptions, he has no reason to listen to your complaints. Because you'll complain and complain, whine and whine...and yet still send him money.

So the joke's on you, isn't it? :idunno:

It's a bit ironic that you go on about whining when you wouldn't shut up about an infraction you got a while back, which ended up with you getting shot back in the penalty box and then again...

Nobody is denying the right wing bias here, it's a given and in broad daylight. Doesn't mean to say that things can't be called out. Where it comes to subscriptions then what of it? Plenty like the forum regardless of the bias and it's not as restrictive as other boards where bans are handed out for even a slightly heated exchange...
 

annabenedetti

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Anna, I am posting this primarily for the humor. I hope that you don't take offense. :p

No, I don't take offense, I have a thicker skin than some who like to whine and complain about me.

I'm outside the status quo both religiously and politically since I'm not as right as I used to be (Thank you TOL!) so that means some won't like what I have to say or they won't like me, or they get confused about which is which. I'll deal with it.
 

Nathon Detroit

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Zoo and Anna, I'm just going to point out:

Knight is never going to side with you about ACW and Resurrected. It is not in his interests to do so. He runs a website which caters especially to far right fundamentalists, and far right fundamentalists pay the biggest subscriptions on this site (so it seems).

And frankly, even though you do have fairly large subscriptions, he has no reason to listen to your complaints. Because you'll complain and complain, whine and whine...and yet still send him money.

So the joke's on you, isn't it? :idunno:
Uhh.... SOD isn't a TOL subscriber and resurrected's $30 per year subscription was a gift from another TOLer.

What was the point you were trying to make? :idunno:
 
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