8/6 Republican Debate Thread
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Republicans kill babies. Every abortion since Roe is on them, because they made it possible.
Now when you get through chewing on that understand that you should be partnering with anyone who agrees with you on abortion, from Independents to some Republicans to the pro-life wing of the Democratic party.
But you won't because you hate democrats and you will not relinquish that. It's not just about abortion for you. It's not even most importantly, or you'd drop the pointless attempt and join with those willing to reach out on the issue--or you have so much blood in your eye you can't see it.
Oh. You are *claiming* that Republicans don't. Right.
Who suffers when you shut down a union and the workers end up with no benefits and less than half of their salary from their non union job?
The children. That's who ... but I guess those children are of less concern than your political party.
THIS is part of the party that you support:
http://www.republicansforchoice.com/index.htm
http://www.lifenews.com/2015/08/11/...-parenthood-funding-abortion-biz-praises-him/
From the article:
“The problem that I have with Planned Parenthood is the abortion situation. It is like an abortion factory, frankly,” Trump said. “And you can’t have it. And you just shouldn’t be funding it. That should not be funded by the government, and I feel strongly about that.”
When asked about the smaller non-abortion component of what Planned Parenthood does, Trump appeared to be alright with taxpayer funding.
“What I would do when the time came, I’d look at the individual things they do, and maybe some of the individual things they do are good. I know a lot of the things are bad. But certainly the abortion aspect of it should not be funded by government, absolutely,” he said.
Trump added, “I would look at the good aspects of [Planned Parenthood], and I would also look, because I’m sure they do some things properly and good and that are good for women, and I would look at that, and I would look at other aspects also. But we have to take care of women.”
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http://www.ontheissues.org/Donald_Trump.htm
Donald Trump on Abortion
Ban late abortions; exceptions for rape, incest or health. (Jun 2015)
I am now pro-life; after years of being pro-choice. (Apr 2011)
I changed my views to pro-life based on personal stories. (Apr 2011)
I am pro-life; fight ObamaCare abortion funding. (Feb 2011)
Pro-choice, but ban partial birth abortion. (Jul 2000)
Favors abortion rights but respects opposition. (Dec 1999)
Donald Trump on Civil Rights
Same-sex marriage is a state issue. (Jun 2015)
No gay marriage; no same-sex partner benefits. (Mar 2011)
Tolerate diversity; prosecute hate crimes against gays. (Jul 2000)
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would you vote for trump
if
he were the republican nominee
and
hillary was the democratic nominee?
There are third party candidates ... regardless, I would not vote for Trump. Find a suitable Republican candidate.
Why are you fine with Trump's view on abortion?
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Stick a fork in her...Hillary is as good as done, she will be lucky to stay out of prison the way things are shaking out. The old socialist Sanders will probably be the only Democrat choice...I did hear Gore's name mentioned though. :rotfl:
I was giving you the standard for what really is the lowest common denominator...I wasn't sure you could see that through your rage over a possible Trump candidacy.
We already have one of those now with Obama though I would use the words inept, unqualified, & destructive to precede unpolished political hack. :chuckle:
Easy there...I am really not attracted to him at all, I am however enjoying his as well as The other conservative candidate's message greatly. I also am thoroughly enjoying the RINO establishment and media squirm as their smear tactics are not working. He may not get the nomination in the end but, he has got America discussing that which most politicians would remain silent about for the sake of pandering which I detest.
If somebody good does not enter government at this point this nation as we have known it is doomed.
Assume much? You spoke in that post quite broadly about the "candidates" and I addressed Trump where I know you meant Trump. I will vote for who i believe has the best chance of beating the old socialist Sanders. Hillary is as good as done as a candidate...damaged goods so, I can assure you I won't vote for a socialist so whoever emerges against him in the general I will vote for. The primary is a ways away at this point so I am just watching the show but, I really enjoy the whole field. I really like Carson, Cruz, Jindal and Fiorina who I wish had beaten that moron Jerry Brown for Governor...she would have been a much better choice but alas, Californians collectively vote stupidly. Trump is just one of many that are shaking up the field and I am really enjoying the show.
And you know all this because? do you some evidence you want to share or is this just a hunch rooted in your anger?
why do you think I am fine with trump's view on abortion?
I don't know what his views on abortion are
I don't care what his views on abortion are
he will not be the republican nominee
but
I will vote for the republican nominee even if it is trump
because
democrats kill babies and jobs
thank you for another opportunity to clear this up
there he goes again
bringing up what happened over 40 years ago
he wants you to ignore what is happening now
he is okay with what is happening now
he won't admit
that
democrats are now killing babies and jobs
if you had a dollar for a poor woman
would you have her use it for food
or
would you have her use it for an abortion?
Is this a trick question? If the poor woman lives in Cuba then health services are free.
for you it is
Re: crony capitalism and being bought/sold
During the debate Trump talked about how he gives money to everyone because he knows it will help get him what he wants. Do you really think he would be a reformer against a system that he, by his own words, has benefited from? I'm highly skeptical that he would be. If he wants to be honest and shine a light on things then great, I like that, but don't expect me to believe he'll suddenly stop gaming the system and reform it.
I was having a conversation about Gore last night. :chuckle: I think he'd be a fool to run but in a way I hope he does just to make things more interesting on the Democratic side. They are boring compared to the Republicans.
In that matchup.....Third Party most likely.
Trump is no different from any other business man in this respect and i am surprised that you and others are so quick to find fault in him or any other businessman that has played this political game to succeed. I never said I like it, nor have I heard Trump say he likes it but, he is the only one that has shined a light on it and was candid about exposing it. It is good to be skeptical and I am skeptical that this paradigm will ever change, Trump or not. My comment was more of a kudos to him for not, lying or skirting the facts but, admitting & explaining it plainly for all to hear, his honesty on the subject was admirable IMO. In that same breath Kmo I also have no reason to believe he won't change this corrupt pay to play system that our corrupt politicians in D.C. have been using to game the American businessman given his honesty on the subject. Maybe as he moves forward somebody will ask him but, I don't know any more than you do if he will address this sort of corruption.
You really should learn to read, or not assume, or maybe take a deep breath before you attack...:nono: This below is what I said ,and I also said what I meant by it Anna, you really need to lighten up.
Fixed that for you. Which, for those who might not understand it, means that the bold part is not set out as an actual part of the quote but in rebuttal to the words that were there in the original.
They stop killing babies from then to now?
:nono:
And who gave them the power to do that?
Replublicans...so called conservatives.
Given how you run away from my point about partnering with anyone on the side of the pro life ledger I'm left to wonder if its more about the range of issues with you, about party busting.
This is just chrys lying again, like when he said I wrote something about Kennedy he couldn't reproduce.
Don't look at the hand he's waving in the air. Look at the hand he's playing. That's where the cards are.
See how he tied in jobs?
Chrys wants to kill the Dem party, but it isn't just because they support the abortion mill his party set in motion. He has a range of issues tied to his ideology. That's why instead of staying on point he drags in jobs, which is debatable as an issue, but terrific as self exposure goes.
That's why he avoided my "anyone on our side of the issue is an ally" and "it's easier to move people on an issue than to move them on a host of issues". Chrys' makes sense when you really look at him.
Else, some Dems and some Republicans are likely killing babies, as doctors and as individuals making the wrong choice. Some Dems have fought for women to continue to have the right to do the wrong thing. Fewer within that party have fought against it. And many Republicans have fought to restrict the practice. Fewer to actually end it and a few to support it, as many Democrats do.
And everyone on the side of the angels, regardless of party, is an ally. Unless you're motivation is other and entangled.
Unless you're Chrys, apparently.
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