31 Reasons To Reject The Jab

Yorzhik

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You have jumped to the next level. You do see that first step is needed because of resistance like ok doser expressed?

Vaccines make sense because of a risk/ benefit analysis. The small number of cases where adverse effects have arisen with the vaccines are not communicable like the virus. A reduction in contagion and severity of symptoms as well as mortality translates in to a lower level of human suffering.
Quite wrong. We are still experiencing excess deaths in 2021, even after (especially after) a majority of the adult population had been vaccinated. If the vaccine worked, there would not be a viable population for it to propagate in. Yet it runs through the population as if there are no vaccines at all. That allows useful idiots like yourself to support our leaders to call for lockdowns, masks, and mandates. The numbers are clear, the graphs are easy to read, and they show the excess deaths are from young people and masks, lockdowns, and social distancing don't do much of anything against an aerosol spread sickness. In fact, they hurt and kill a lot of people which is why the young are dying this year.

The reason I look into more than just the sickness but take a holistic approach to the data is because I care more about people than you. It's sad because I was hoping "chair", a user who didn't care about people like yourself, changed his outlook after he left after being shown the objective evidence of his uncaring behavior.
 

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Quite wrong. We are still experiencing excess deaths in 2021, even after (especially after) a majority of the adult population had been vaccinated. If the vaccine worked, there would not be a viable population for it to propagate in.
A majority of the adult population has been vaccinated, but not enough to achieve herd immunity. The unvaccinated are now a minority of the population, but they still account for the majority of those who are being hospitalized and who are dying from COVID. Which part of that is too hard for you to understand?
 

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Quite wrong. We are still experiencing excess deaths in 2021, even after (especially after) a majority of the adult population had been vaccinated.
You are off a bit. If vaccination occurred fast enough and a critical mass occurred, covid would be contained. Internally, so many dragged their feet in getting vaccinated, there still exists an efficient delivery system of new variants.


If the vaccine worked, there would not be a viable population for it to propagate in. Yet it runs through the population as if there are no vaccines at all.

Vax deniers have ensured a viable population. When a suboptimal percent of a population is vaccinated, a vaccine can only hope to slow the spread. Additionally, the vax must also be available across the world when the virus can be easily spread.
 

Arthur Brain

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They're bots.

I'm still convinced that TOL has in the past had not only numerous paid agents (some still here) but at least one AI bot the controller was using us to work the bugs out.
Why do you think that folk would get paid to post stuff that you don't like on a forum like this? That's just paranoid bunk. It's hilarious in one sense...
 

Arthur Brain

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That's all you have been providing since almost all of your posts or wrong or childish.



You are correct. The word went out several years ago for paid agents to infiltrate and upset forums. I have seen a few actually get busted.
Well, been here 15 years and never got paid anything for the stuff that you might want to class as "upsetting" the forum. In years gone by I've actually contributed to this place financially and when there weren't so many conspiracy nuts run rampant...
 

way 2 go

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You are off a bit. If vaccination occurred fast enough and a critical mass occurred, covid would be contained. Internally, so many dragged their feet in getting vaccinated, there still exists an efficient delivery system of new variants.
if it was a vaccine it would have worked but its not ,
its a gene therapy

Bayer executive: mRNA shots are ‘gene therapy’ marketed as ‘vaccines’ to gain public trust​



Vax deniers have ensured a viable population. When a suboptimal percent of a population is vaccinated, a vaccine can only hope to slow the spread. Additionally, the vax must also be available across the world when the virus can be easily spread.
It's because officials in Gibraltar recently canceled Christmas because of rising COVID case numbers.

And that's the region where residents were told they lived in the "most vaccinated country in the world."


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Why do you think that folk would get paid to post stuff that you don't like on a forum like this? That's just paranoid bunk. It's hilarious in one sense...

Arthur Brain, doing what he was born to do: LIE.

I remember when the call went out from Leftist groups to do that very thing.

I have personally seen people get busted for that very thing.

Why do we have to suffer this man's bald faced lies? That is what poisons forums and discussions, members like AB who just lie without a care in the world.
 
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Back to the original topic: This post looks to be as valid as the day it was posted.
I proclaim the OP premise is truthful and correct.


31 Reasons To Reject The Jab

31 reasons why I won’t take the vaccine​

1. It’s not a vaccine. A vaccine by definition provides immunity to a disease. This does not provide immunity to anything. In a best-case scenario, it merely reduces the chance of getting a severe case of a virus if one catches it. Hence, it is a medical treatment, not a vaccine. I do not want to take a medical treatment for an illness I do not have.
2. The drug companies, politicians, medical establishment, and media have joined forces to universally refer to this as a vaccine, when it is not one, with the intention of manipulating people into feeling safer about undergoing a medical treatment. Because they are being deceitful, I do not trust them, and want nothing to do with their medical treatment.
3. The presumed benefits of this medical treatment are minimal and would not last long in any case. The establishment acknowledges this, and is already talking about additional shots and ever-increasing numbers of new “vaccines” that would be required on a regular basis. I refuse to turn myself into a chronic patient who receives injections of new pharmaceutical products on a regular basis simply to reduce my chances of getting a severe case of a virus that these injections do not even prevent.
4. I can reduce my chances of getting a severe case of a virus by strengthening my immune system naturally. In the event I catch a virus, there are vitamins and well-established drugs that have had wonderful results in warding off the illness, without the risks and unknowns of this medical treatment.
5. The establishment insists that this medical treatment is safe. They cannot possibly know this because the long-term effects are entirely unknown, and will not be known for many years. They may speculate that it is safe, but it is disingenuous for them to make such a claim that cannot possibly be known. Because they are being disingenuous, I do not trust them, and I want no part of their treatment.
6. The drug companies have zero liability if anything goes wrong, and cannot be sued. Same for the politicians who are pushing this treatment. I will not inject myself with a new, experimental medical device when the people behind it accept no liability or responsibility if something goes wrong. I will not risk my health and my life when they refuse to risk anything.
7. Israel’s Prime Minister has openly admitted that the Israeli people are the world’s laboratory for this experimental treatment. I am not interested in being a guinea pig or donating my body to science.
8. Israel agreed to share medical data of its citizens with a foreign drug company as a fundamental part of their agreement to receive this treatment. I never consented for my personal medical data to be shared with any such entity, nor was I even asked. I will not contribute to this sleazy enterprise.
9. The executives and board members at Pfizer are on record that they have not taken their own treatment, despite all the fanfare and assurances. They are claiming that they would consider it unfair to “cut the line”. This is a preposterous excuse, and it takes an unbelievable amount of chutzpah to even say such a thing. Such a “line” is a figment of their own imagination; if they hogged a couple of injections for themselves no one would cry foul. In addition, billionaires with private jets and private islands are not known for waiting in line until hundreds of millions of peasants all over the world go first to receive anything these billionaires want for themselves.
10. The establishment media have accepted this preposterous excuse without question or concern. Moreover, they laud Pfizer’s executives for their supposed self-sacrifice in not taking their own experimental treatment until we go first. Since they consider us such fools, I do not trust them, and do not want their new treatment. They can have my place in line. I’ll go to the very back of the line.
11. Three facts that must be put together:
  • Bill Gates is touting these vaccines as essential to the survival of the human race.
  • Bill Gates believes the world has too many people and needs to be “depopulated”.
  • Bill Gates, perhaps the richest man in the world, has also not been injected. No rush.
Uh, no. I’ll pass on any medical treatments he wants me to take.
12. The establishment has been entirely one-sided in celebrating this treatment. The politicians and media are urging people to take it as both a moral and civic duty. The benefits of the treatment are being greatly exaggerated, the risks are being ignored, and the unknowns are being brushed aside. Because they are being deceitful and manipulative, I will not gamble my personal wellbeing on their integrity.
13. There is an intense propaganda campaign for people to take this treatment. Politicians and celebrities are taking selfies of themselves getting injected (perhaps in some cases pretending to get injected), the media is hyping this as the coolest, smartest, most happy and fun thing to do. It is the most widespread marketing campaign in history. This is not at all appropriate for any medical treatment, let alone a brand new one, and it makes me recoil.
14. The masses are following in tow, posting pictures of themselves getting injected with a drug, feeding the mass peer pressure to do the same. There is something very alarming and sick about this, and I want no part of it. I never took drugs just because “everyone’s doing it” and it’s cool. I’m certainly not going to start now.
15. Those who raise concerns about this medical treatment are being bullied, slandered, mocked, censored, ostracized, threatened, and fired from their jobs. This includes medical professionals who have science-based concerns about the drug and caregivers who have witnessed people under their charge suffering horrible reactions and death shortly after being injected. When the establishment is purging good people who risk everything simply to raise concerns about a new medical treatment — even if they don’t outright oppose it — I will trust these brave people over the establishment every time. I cannot think of a single similar case in history when truth and morality turned out to be on the side of the establishment.
16. This is the greatest medical experiment in the history of the human race.
17. It is purposely not being portrayed as the greatest medical experiment in the history of the human race, and the fact that it is a medical experiment at all is being severely downplayed.
18. Were they up front with the masses, very few would agree to participate in such an experiment. Manipulating the masses to participate in a medical experiment under false pretenses violates the foundations of medical ethics and democratic law. I will not allow unethical people who engage in such conduct to inject me with anything.
19. The medical establishment is not informing people about any of this. They have become marketing agents for an experimental drug, serving huge companies and politicians who have made deals with them. This is a direct conflict with their mandate to concern themselves exclusively with the wellbeing of the people under their care. Since the medical establishment has become corrupted, and has become nothing more than a corporate and political tool, I do not trust the experimental drug they want so badly to inject me with.
20. We are being pressured in various ways to get injected, which violates medical ethics and the foundations of democratic society. The best way to get me not to do something is to pressure me to do it.
21. The government has sealed their protocol related to the virus and treatments for thirty years. This is information that the public has a right to know, and the government has a responsibility to share. What are they covering up? Do they really expect me to believe that everything is kosher about all this, and that they are concerned first and foremost with my health? The last time they did this was with the Yemenite Children Affair. If you’re not familiar with it, look it up. Now they’re pulling the same shtick. They didn’t fool me the first time, and they’re definitely not fooling me now.
22. The government can share our personal medical data with foreign corporations, but they won’t share their own protocol on the matter with us? I’m out.
23. The establishment has recruited doctors, rabbis, the media, and the masses to harangue people who don’t want to get injected with a new drug. We are being called the worst sort of names. We are being told that we believe in crazy conspiracies, that we are against science, that we are selfish, that we are murderers, that we don’t care about the elderly, that it’s our fault that the government continues to impose draconian restrictions on the public. It’s all because we don’t want to get injected with an experimental treatment, no questions asked. We are even being told that we have a religious obligation to do this, and that we are grave sinners if we do not. They say that if we do not agree to get injected, we should be forced to stay inside our homes forever and be ostracized from public life.
This is horrific, disgusting, a perversion of common sense, morality, and the Torah. It makes me recoil, and only further cements my distrust of these people and my opposition to taking their experimental drug. How dare they?
24. I know of many people who got injected, but none of them studied the science in depth, carefully weighed the potential benefits against the risks, compared this option to other alternatives, was truly informed, and decided this medical treatment was the best option for them. On the contrary, they got injected because of the hype, the propaganda, the pressure, the fear, blind trust in what “the majority of experts” supposedly believed (assuming THEY all studied everything in depth and were completely objective, which is highly dubious), blind trust in what certain influential rabbis urged them to do (ditto the above), or hysterical fear that the only option was getting injected or getting seriously ill from the virus. When I see mass hysteria and cult-like behavior surrounding a medical treatment, I will be extremely suspicious and avoid it.
25. The drug companies have a long and glorious history of causing mass carnage with wonder drugs they thrust on unsuspecting populations, even after serious problems had already become known. Instead of pressing the pause button and halting the marketing of these drugs until these issues could be properly investigated, the drug companies did everything in their power to suppress the information and keep pushing their products. When companies and people have demonstrated such gross lack of concern for human life, I will not trust them when they hype a new wonder drug. This isn’t our first rodeo.
26. Indeed, the horror stories are already coming in at warp speed, but the politicians are not the least bit concerned, the medical establishment is brushing them aside as unrelated or negligible, the media is ignoring it, the drug companies are steaming ahead at full speed, and those who raise a red flag continue to be bullied, censored, and punished. Clearly my life and my wellbeing are not their primary concern. I will not be their next guinea pig in their laboratory. I will not risk being the next “coincidence”.
27. Although many people have died shortly after getting injected – including perfectly healthy young people – we are not allowed to imply that the injection had anything to do with it. Somehow this is anti-science and will cause more people to die. I believe that denying any possible link, abusing people who speculate that there might be a link, and demonstrating not the slightest curiosity to even explore if there might be a link is what is anti-science and could very well cause more people to die. These same people believe I am obligated to get injected as well. No freaking thanks.
28. I am repulsed by the religious, cult-like worship of a pharmaceutical product, and will not participate in this ritual.
29. My “healthcare” provider keeps badgering me to get injected, yet they have provided me no information on this treatment or any possible alternatives. Everything I know I learned from others outside the establishment. Informed consent has become conformed consent. I decline.
30. I see all the lies, corruption, propaganda, manipulation, censorship, bullying, and violation of medical ethics. I see a lack of integrity in the scientific process, suppression of inconvenient adverse reactions, dismissal of legitimate concerns, hysteria, cult-like behavior, ignorance, closed-mindedness, fear, medical and political tyranny, concealment of protocols, lack of true concern for human life, lack of respect for basic human rights and freedoms, perversion of the Torah and common sense, demonization of good people, the greatest medical experiment of all time being conducted by greedy, untrustworthy, godless people, the lack of liability for those who demand I risk everything… I see all this and I have decided they can all have my place in line. I will put my trust in God. I will use the mind He blessed me with and trust my natural instincts.
Which leads to the final reason which sums up why I will not get “vaccinated.”
31. The whole thing stinks.
 

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A new Oxford University study out today using data from 38 million people shows that people who have had covid are 40 times more likely to develop myocarditis and pericarditis than people who develop it from the vaccine:

 
A new Oxford University study out today using data from 38 million people shows that people who have had covid are 40 times more likely to develop myocarditis and pericarditis than people who develop it from the vaccine:


Ladies and Gentlemen, Fake News Fraud and Farrakhan Defender Luser Name is at it again. His fake news article, written by Pushkala Aripaka in Bengaluru, and edited by Shailesh Kuber and Anil D'Silva (ROFL) quotes a fascist disguised as a doctor named Peter English, who has claimed in the past that people don't even have the right to choose whether or not to get vaccinated. He is a baboon and a fraud,

Leave it to Luser Name to post crap and call it news.

Listen to this lady rip Luser's doctor apart: Just listening to him proves he's a quack and a moron:

 

Arthur Brain

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Arthur Brain, doing what he was born to do: LIE.

I remember when the call went out from Leftist groups to do that very thing.

I have personally seen people get busted for that very thing.

Why do we have to suffer this man's bald faced lies? That is what poisons forums and discussions, members like AB who just lie without a care in the world.
Oh please, The accusations of paid disinformation agents have been flung around at members on here from people who are conspiracy loons and paranoid dopes unable to form an intelligent argument.
 

way 2 go

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During the summer Covid wave, more than 140,000 Israelis who had been vaccinated but not received a booster shot became infected with Covid. Put another way, in just two months, about 1 out of every 20 vaccinated Israelis became infected with Sars-Cov-2.

Natural immunity - the protection following infection and recovery - lasts much longer, the study shows.

In fact, people who had already had Covid once had better protection from the virus more than a year later than people who had been vaccinated only three months before.

The gap was even larger in cases of severe infection.

Vaccinated people were more than five times as likely to develop severe infections than people with natural immunity. Only 25 out of roughly 300,000 Israelis with natural immunity developed severe Covid infections in the summer wave - compared to almost 1,400 vaccinated Israelis.

The difference did not result from gaps in age between vaccinated and recovered people. People over 60 benefited even more from natural immunity relative to vaccination than did younger people.

 

way 2 go

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A new Oxford University study out today using data from 38 million people shows that people who have had covid are 40 times more likely to develop myocarditis and pericarditis than people who develop it from the vaccine:

study only had vaxed in it
vaxed vs vaxed and infected

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Skeeter

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if it was a vaccine it would have worked but its not ,
its a gene therapy

Bayer executive: mRNA shots are ‘gene therapy’ marketed as ‘vaccines’ to gain public trust​

I had the J and J shot which is a traditional vaccine as far as I know. I think gene therapy involves altering genes which mRNA shots do not do. Your executive was probably focused on advertising, not science or medicine. Do try and get your info from the right source.
 

way 2 go

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I had the J and J shot which is a traditional vaccine as far as I know.
J&J Least deadly
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I think gene therapy involves altering genes which mRNA shots do not do.
The president of Bayer’s Pharmaceuticals Division told international “experts” during a globalist health conference that the mRNA COVID-19 shots are indeed “cell and gene therapy” marketed as “vaccines” to be palatable to the public.
Your executive was probably focused on advertising, not science or medicine.
yes , try and keep up ,
gene therapy marketed as a vaccine
by the president of Bayer’s Pharmaceuticals Division
Do try and get your info from the right source.
you or
the president of Bayer’s Pharmaceuticals Division
 
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