beloved57
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It judges you too ! Jn 12:48
48 [FONT="]He that rejecteth me, and receiveth not my words, hath one that judgeth him: the word that I have spoken, the same shall judge him in the last day.[/FONT]
YOU MUST BE BORN AGAIN, John 3:7
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It judges you too ! Jn 12:48
48 [FONT="]He that rejecteth me, and receiveth not my words, hath one that judgeth him: the word that I have spoken, the same shall judge him in the last day.[/FONT]
Churchianity? I haven't been in a church for over 25 years. There are to many in the organized church that are like you.
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More pride.
=more spam, that he litters-anything, but addressing whether Christ died for our sins, or not.
Members of the boc testify that Christ died for our sins/sin debt, taking the deserved penalty/judgment/condemnation, in our place, for breaking HIS ALWAYS EXISTING, good, spiritual holy law, that defines the sin/transgression, for which He might die. YOU DENY THAT SOLUTION, asserting that he did not die for our/your sins, and instead, died to eliminate the law, so that no one can be even charged with sin debt, condemnation, judgment. And no scripture, nor Pate, can/does expound on how Christ's dying, can, or does, eliminate His own law. Not one. It does expound, at length , on the reasons for his dying, including propitiation, identification, substitution.
ON RECORD.
The law must be fulfilled and abolished or there is no salvation for anyone.
This is why Paul said to the law keeping Galatians.
"Tell me that you desire to be under the law, DO YOU NOT HEAR THE LAW? Galatians 4:21.
The law will damn you to hell.
Those that are living by the law are under a curse.
"For as many as are under the law are under the curse: for it is written, cursed is everyone that does not continue in all things that are written in the book of the law to do them" Galatians 3:10.
Christians are called to live by the Holy Spirit and not by the letter of the law, because the Letter (law) kills, but the Spirit gives life, 2 Corinthians 3:6.
This is why Paul said to the law keeping Galatians.
"Tell me that you desire to be under the law, DO YOU NOT HEAR THE LAW? Galatians 4:21.
The law will damn you to hell.
Those that are living by the law are under a curse.
"For as many as are under the law are under the curse: for it is written, cursed is everyone that does not continue in all things that are written in the book of the law to do them" Galatians 3:10.
Christians are called to live by the Holy Spirit and not by the letter of the law, because the Letter (law) kills, but the Spirit gives life, 2 Corinthians 3:6.
It is important that each and every person be born again.
No one will be saved that has not been born again. We are born again by hearing and believing the Gospel. If you believe the Gospel you will believe that you are perfect and complete "In Christ" Colossians 2:10. You will also cease from your own works and enter into his rest, Hebrews 4:10. There is no room in the Gospel for religion or law keeping. We are justified by faith and by faith alone, Romans 5:1. It is not the Gospel plus your religion. It is the Gospel plus nothing.
beloved57
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You teach that sinners Christ died for perish in sin, thats not Gospel Truth
Including his water baptism, to fulfil all righteousness, which is of the law, per Matthew 3:15 KJV?
Rhetorical q., as "Pate-anity," once again asserts that the righteousness of the law justifies, saves us.
Did He sleep for us?
Did He eat for us?
=spammed for the 666th time in the last year. No, satanic one-Christians do not believe your satanic "interpretation," engager in deceptive "debating" tactis, to please your master, satan.
You revised, deleted words from Colossians 2:14 KJV, you shill of the devil.
=spammed for the 666th time in the last year, from the admitted Catholic,which he spams to everyone on TOL, that disagrees with his satanic interpretation, butchering the bible, as he asserts that he is the only Christian on TOL.
True, because He died for our sin debt, for breaking his existing law, not because he made void the law, as you satanically assert.
ANSWER, loser:
So, if all of our sins were, tell us how Christ can die for the sins you commit each day, when there is no law, and thus no transgression, sin, for which he might die, demon.
Go ahead.
True. Do you do what God wants you to do in Jesus Christ?
I would have more success by going out and talking to a tree or a telephone pole.
When Jesus died on the cross he atoned for the sins of the whole world, 1 John 2:2. As far as God is concerned sin, death and the devil have been abolished, but only or believers. God sees ALL THINGS in his Son Jesus Christ. If sin, death and the devil have been abolished for the Christian, then what good is the law?
You just lied again. You asserted, intoxicated demon, that the law was abolished, destroyed, made void, at the cross; thus, He could not die for any future sins, including yours, resulting sin debt, as there is no law, to be transgressed, that results in sins.
You reject that Christ died for our sins, sin debt, instead satanically asserting that He died to destroy/make void His own holy, good, spiritual law, so that there is no sin sin debt, for which He might die, so that He would not need to be our substitute, taking our well deserved condemnation, in our place.
You are a perverter of the gospel of Christ, and no scripture expounds, teaches, how, or why, His death affects the making void of the law, its destruction. He could have done that without dying.His death "destroys" "abolishes" the sin debt,the IOU, the charges against us, for us breaking His, by definition, EXISTING law, as He took our place, in judgment, condemnation.
You: Destroy make void, the law, so that there is no judgment, condemnation, sin debt, for which He might die!!!!!!!!!
=satanically rejecting the substitutionary atonement.
You revised, deleted words from Colossians 2:14 KJV, you shill of the devil.
If Jesus came down from heaven and told you that he abolished the law, you would not believe him.
He did not come to abolish the Law or the Prophets, but to fulfill (them).
Correct, as He would not contradict His own word, you deceiver, as no scripture asserts that, despite your satanic assertions that it does, via your satanic "interpretation." You've already believed satan,posing as an angel, from heaven, despite Paul's warning to you, in Galatians 1 ff, as you preach another gospel, perverting 1 Corinthians 15:1-4...
2 Corinthians 11:14 KJV And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.
When you contend that the law has not been abolished you are opposing the Gospel and justification by faith.
No one can be saved if the law is still in effect for Christians. The purpose of the law is to judge and condemn, "There is no condemnation for those that are in Jesus Christ" Romans 8:1.
There is no condemnation because the law has been fulfilled and abolished, Ephesians 2:15.
God sees ALL THINGS in his Son Jesus Christ, Colossians 1:20. In Jesus Christ the sins of the world have been atoned for, 1 John 2:2. In Jesus Christ the law has been fulfilled and abolished, Ephesians 2:15. Because of the doing and the dying of Jesus we are complete "In Christ" Colossians 2:10.
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That's wrong no matter how many times you say it and no matter how much you insult those that tell you.
That's wrong no matter how many times you say it and no matter how much you insult those that tell you.
The reason that we are not condemned is NOT because the law "disappeared", but because Christ died for our SINS.... ONCE FOR ALL.
The enmity was NOT the law itself but our breaking the law.
Atonement is the opposite of "no more law".
"No more law" would mean that atonement would not even be needed.