God's Truth
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There are three and Jesus is God. JW's do not believe Jesus is God. You call me things that are not true.
I am trying to help you have the joy of the Lord.
ECT Why shouldn't I convert from Evangelical Protestant to Catholic?
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I am trying to help you have the joy of the Lord.
God's Truth
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Explain this.opcorn:
The trinity makes a three-headed God, instead of One God revealed in three.
The Bible says there is One God and He is the Father.
Jesus is God, so that means he is the same as the Father.
Jesus himself says when you SEE him, you SEE the FATHER.
Trinity doctrine says they are distinct.
Distinct means different. They are NOT different. Jesus says he ONLY says and DOES what the Father says and does.
Sheila B
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As your scripture shows, Jesus does not have regard for one over another.
But, as King and Ruler, He does have authority and passes this on in unequal measure. Only one - "you" singular- received the Keys to the Kingdom.
The powers to "bind and loose" are also given to the 12 in apostolic succession as Paul relates to Timothy. You nor I received the powers to bind in heaven what we bind on earth, nor loose in heaven what we loose on earth.
Sheila B
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Sheila B
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The Father has not clothed Himself in flesh in the Virgin's Womb, nor has the Holy Spirit. There is a distinction there, wouldn't you agree?
You have misinterpreted the core teaching of Christianity. See what happens when every Tom, Dick and Harry becomes their own authority regarding interpretation?
Thank goodness for the authoritive teaching of the Church passed on from the apostles and down through the centuries, halting heresies such as yours.
You say 'The bible says...', do you know where your canon of scripture came from? Do you? Do you know it was the Catholic Church?
Even so, do you know that Theophilus of Antioch was using the Trinitarian term in 181AD, 150 years BEFORE the Catholic Church put your canon of Scripture together? Do you know that Christians certainly believed in the doctrine from apostolic times? (The doctrine was not invented when the official term was coined at the Fourth Latern Council in 1215, incase you were thinking of going down that road.)
YOUR heresy is due to YOUR interpretation of YOUR belief in Sola Scriptura, and is at odds with the core teaching of Christianity.
Now, you have advice on why I shouldn't join the Catholic Church? :doh:
blasphemy!
csuguy
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Neither have "all the truth." No one does - nor can they. The fullness of the truth is something we have to look forward to when all is said and done - as Paul teaches in 1 Cor 13. Even if one side did have all the truth, and another side errored - that wouldn't make any difference providing both were decidedly Christian and doing God's will. God doesn't care about us holding a perfect set of beliefs, but rather how we live our lives. Many of the issues that Christians split themselves over are silly and unimportant. Just agree to disagree and focus on what is important: living moral lives & doing God's will.
James 1:27
Religion that God our Father accepts as pure and faultless is this: to look after orphans and widows in their distress and to keep oneself from being polluted by the world.
Being Arian, they believe the word is a god.
You deserved to lose your friends....if you were saved and you may have been, you have betrayed the grounds upon which you were saved....you in looking for another ground upon which to be saved than the cross have even betrayed Christ. God [and what you have posted is here is a hopeful sign to spiritual eyes] will punish you sore for turning from the cross to another salvation, not that there is another.....stop kidding yourself.
I have betrayed Christ himself? I am being punished? Please buy a clue.
I may have lost my protestant friends, but with attitudes similiar to yours...well good riddance is all I can say.
I will point out however, I am nearly part of a family with 1.2 billion members and the ones I have met so far have been amazingly warm, kind, friendly, spiritual and incredibly understanding. I feel like I'm truely coming home and have met many new friends.
Oh, by the way, thanks for reading the thread and pulling that out from a few pages ago...maybe you should dip a toe in the Tiber, you never know, you might even lose a misconception or two.
Good day to you.
Yes but I fully expected that you would react that way, as with all dire warnings from God's servants it does show you the way back. You are in a most unhappy place and you know it.
Post your proof God needs to warn me not to join His one and only true Church.
opcorn:
The fact that you and Cruciform work so hard at studying the myths and legends of the RCC, trying to be more Catholic than Catholics are who were brought up in that religion is one sure sign...you think with much studying to crowd out the Holy Spirit from speaking to you.
Your testimony about how you fared after you turned away from the cross as your only trust....like the prodigal son....Christ promises rest, Christ promises abundant life. Yes, yes, you can try to convince yourself that these are the cost of true discipleship if you like. They are not, they are the Lord's displeasure.
The warnings are in Hebrews....now I do not believe in the possibility of one who was saved being damned and I do not believe that those warnings threaten it, but they do warn against turning from simple faith in the cross to a "system" of salvation.
Your testimony about how you fared after you turned away from the cross as your only trust....like the prodigal son....Christ promises rest, Christ promises abundant life. Yes, yes, you can try to convince yourself that these are the cost of true discipleship if you like. They are not, they are the Lord's displeasure.
The warnings are in Hebrews....now I do not believe in the possibility of one who was saved being damned and I do not believe that those warnings threaten it, but they do warn against turning from simple faith in the cross to a "system" of salvation.
This is what you have said so far because I am on my way to the Catholic Church:
I have betrayed Christ.
God will punish me.
I am not following the Holy Spirit.
I deserve to lose my friends.
The Lord is displeased with me....
....and when I ask for evidence of your accusations, you post that your proof and whole argument is based on...let me see...a vague reference to an unmentioned verse somewhere in Hebrews? Really??
Cruciform
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Just another Straw Man Fallacy on your part. If you disagree, then go ahead and post your supposed proof for the above assertion.
Gaudium de veritate,
Cruciform
+T+
Sure, if you had not said you were evangelical. That told everyone that your motives were devious.
Evangelicals believe that faith in the Person of Jesus Christ and His death for us on the cross is wholly sufficient to save us, moreover evangelicals believe that nothing at all must be added to His work on the cross...if anything is evangelicals consider it an insult to the grace of God.
So my charge to you was [as mean as it seems] spot on.
You picked this fight so don't start crying martyr.
All that you yourself say happened as a result of turning from simple faith looks like God dealing with you as a rebel.
The Holy Spirit will never lead you to a system of salvation which insults Christ and His work at Calvary...no way José
If they remain [your friends] faithful to Christ while you turn away to religion for salvation breech is inevitable.
The WHOLE book of Hebrews is directed towards exhorting the Jews not to return to religion once they have found pardon at the cross.
If you had not said you had been evangelical...and I am not convinced you were...I would have no quarrel with you.
So have you made a choice yet?