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Why marriage matters
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just posting the facts
Just grabbing a couple paragraphs from your OP:
The claim that "sophisticated studies suggest that prior research is inadequate" is unsupported by the OP and its reference source. The inclusion of the word "sophisticated" was a nice tough though as it sets up the conclusion that studies the author does no like are unsophisiticated.
What is truly hilarious here is that the cited reference -- Jason Richwine and Jennifer A. Marshall, “The Regnerus Study: Social Science and New Family Structures Met with Intolerance,” Heritage Foundation Backgrounder No. 2726, October 2, 2012 -- is a puff piece in support of Mark Regnerus, 2012 “How different are the adult children of parents who have same-sex relationships? Findings from the New Family Structures Study,” Social Science Research is itself a study derived from a convenience sample that was smaller than any of the studies the authors dismissed as "inadequate".
"Marriage exists to bring a man and a woman together as husband and wife to be father and mother to any children their union produces."
unsupported opinion.
"It is based on the anthropological truth that men and women are different and complementary,"
DIffernt and complementary is a meaningless statement.
" the biological fact that reproduction depends on a man and a woman, and the social reality that children need both a mother and a father." the first statement may be factual but the second opinion.
" Marriage predates government."
This depends on what one is calling marriage and how one defines government
" It is the fundamental building block of all human civilization." Unsupported opinion
" Marriage has public purposes that transcend its private purposes." Unsupported opinion
"This is why 41 states, with good reason, affirm that marriage is between a man and a woman." again an opinion and one that shows author bias.
It is a remarkable coincidence that 41 states also had at one time in their history laws that affirmed that marriage was between two people of the same race.
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eider
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No you did not. You advocated a dogma.
eider
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It means you deceived readers by adding words which I never wrote.
You did not produce the OP with the intention of promoting family through marriage, you produced it to have a SSM row, I reckon....
ClimateSanity
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Every quote you posted of mine is a fact. You know it's true.
ClimateSanity
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I advocated facts. Sorry, you lose.
ClimateSanity
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What words? You have no idea what my intentions were. You lefties sure think you have mind reading capabilities.
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The claim that "sophisticated studies suggest that prior research is inadequate" is unsupported by the OP and its reference source. The inclusion of the word "sophisticated" was a nice tough though as it sets up the conclusion that studies the author does no like are unsophisiticated.....Dante.
That's your opinion. You know good and well that prior research is indeed inadequate.
That's your opinion. You know good and well that prior research is indeed inadequate.
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Dante posted:
Findings from the New Family Structures Study,” Social Science Research is itself a study derived from a convenience sample that was smaller than any of the studies the authors dismissed as "inadequate".
The reason for this is clear: gay and lesbian
families with children are difficult to locate and study because they are rare. For example, the Avon Longitudinal Study of
Parents and Children enrolled over 18,000 mothers but located only 18 who were lesbian (Golombok et al., 2003)
► The New Family Structures Study (Regnerus study) collected data from nearly 3000 adults. ►
Findings from the New Family Structures Study,” Social Science Research is itself a study derived from a convenience sample that was smaller than any of the studies the authors dismissed as "inadequate".
The reason for this is clear: gay and lesbian
families with children are difficult to locate and study because they are rare. For example, the Avon Longitudinal Study of
Parents and Children enrolled over 18,000 mothers but located only 18 who were lesbian (Golombok et al., 2003)
► The New Family Structures Study (Regnerus study) collected data from nearly 3000 adults. ►
Exactly
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Nonsense. There is extensive research in this area much of it of very high quality. It's just that every real study has reached conclusions that you don't like.
and how many children raised by gay/lesbian parents did Regnerus actually study?
hint: zero
You're sadly misinformed.
http://www.frc.org/issuebrief/new-study-on-homosexual-parents-tops-all-previous-research
"I didn’t ask them whether they thought their mom was a lesbian or if their dad was gay. Because, in part, self-identity is a different kind of thing than behavior, and lot of people weren’t “out” in that era."
" I said “lesbian mothers” and “gay fathers,” when in fact, I don’t know about their sexual orientation."
Mark Regnerus in interview with Focus on the Family Oct 2012