Why Homosexuality MUST Be Recriminalized! Part 4

[aCultureWarrior]

I've noticed a rather lackluster response to the jailing of Christian Kim Davis from many republicans (politicians and some talk show hosts) and figured that it is because:

a). She's a democrat

and

b). They aren't social conservatives and don't want to make waves by taking a strong moral stance on issues like homosexuality with an upcoming election.

I found this article rather humorous, check out my last comment after I've posted the article:

Martyr or lawbreaker? Kim Davis case roils Republicans

Sept. 9, 2015

Washington (AFP) - A Kentucky clerk who landed in jail for defying a court order on gay marriage is being hailed by some Republicans as a modern day martyr for religious liberty.

But others are not so sure Kim Davis' is a cause they should champion in a turbulent election year.

Two Republican presidential candidates -- Ted Cruz and Mike Huckabee -- have rushed to defend the county official, even though legal experts say the born-again Christian was clearly in the wrong to refuse to carry out official duties in the name of her faith.

Huckabee, a former Baptist preacher, was at Davis' side when the bespectacled 49-year-old emerged from jail in Kentucky Tuesday after five days behind bars for contempt of court, having refused to issue marriage licenses to same-sex couples.

"We cannot criminalize the Christian faith, or anybody's faith in this country," said Huckabee.

"If you have to put someone in jail, I volunteer to go," Huckabee declared. "Lock me up if you think that’s how freedom is best served."

Both Cruz and Huckabee have branded the action against Davis as "judicial tyranny," tapping into a surge of public support for a figure presented as an outspoken Christian jailed for her beliefs.

- 'Not a leg to stand on' -

But their stance is a thorny one for Republican presidential candidates who, if elected, must swear to uphold the US constitution.

And in this case, the US Supreme Court upheld same-sex marriage as a constitutional right in a landmark ruling in June.

"That's really the end of it," Sanford Levinson, a constitutional scholar at the University of Texas Law School, told AFP.

Read more: http://news.yahoo.com/martyr-lawbreaker-kim-davis-case-roils-republicans-161224273.html#

If a leftwing judicial activist SCOTUS ruling is "really the end of it", why are people still talking about overturning Roe v Wade?

 

[The Horn]

Kim Davis isn't being "persecuted " for her Christian faith . She went to jail because of CONTEMPT OF COURT . She insisted on letting HER Christian beliefs get in the way of doing her job , and she is paying the price .
She has absolutely NO RIGHT to do this . If she doesn't want to do her job she should look for employment in some other field .
If you're an orthodox Jew and you take a job as a waiter in a Non-Kosher restaurant which serves pork dishes, you have no right to refuse to serve pork to the patrons .
If Christians have the right to discriminate against gay people, why don't I and other people have the right to discriminate against Christians because WE don't agree with their religious beliefs ?

 

[aCultureWarrior]

And now a few more words of wisdom from the monologue wonder:

Kim Davis isn't being "persecuted " for her Christian faith . She went to jail because of CONTEMPT OF COURT . She insisted on letting HER Christian beliefs get in the way of doing her job , and she is paying the price. She has absolutely NO RIGHT to do this .

i.e. Christian doctrine should be kept behind closed doors and religious liberty should be a thing of the past, kinda like dinosaurs.

If she doesn't want to do her job she should look for employment in some other field .

I asked Rusha, aka Sandy "what kind of business/employment?" A florist? A baker? A photographer? Be more specific".

But which kind of business Sandy? A floral shop?

Attorney General sues Arlene's Flowers for discrimination
http://www.tri-cityherald.com/news/local/article32119614.html

A bakery?

Bakers face $135,000 fine for refusing to make cake for gay wedding
http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2015...or-refusing-to-make-cake-for-gay-wedding.html

A photography studio?

New Mexico Court: Christian Photographer Cannot Refuse Gay-Marriage Ceremony
http://www.breitbart.com/big-govern...arriage-ceremony-next-stop-u-s-supreme-court/
http://www.theologyonline.com/forums/showpost.php?p=4440729&postcount=410

If you're an orthodox Jew and you take a job as a waiter in a Non-Kosher restaurant which serves pork dishes, you have no right to refuse to serve pork to the patrons .

If Kim Davis were an Orthodox Jew and were elected by the citizens of Kentucky to wait tables in a non-Kosher restaurant, you might have a point De Horn.

If Christians have the right to discriminate against gay people, why don't I and other people have the right to discriminate against Christians because WE don't agree with their religious beliefs ?

Why don't you acknowledge that the LGBTQueer movement and Christianity cannot "coexist" De Horn? One side has to be eradicated in order for the other to prosper. You know it, I know it, queers know it, why is it that not all Christians know it?

 

[aCultureWarrior]

With the Kim Davis story in headline news, it's time to take a stroll down memory lane with one of the original series that I documented in Part 1 just over 3 years ago:

Speechless: Silencing the Christians

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ootrp7KSZDg
9 minutes

Because Christianity and the homosexual/sexual anarchist movement cannot coexist.

 

[aCultureWarrior]

The above 9 minute video talked about the public relations plan that the LGBTQueer movement used to get society's approval of homosexuality (After the Ball: How America Will Conquer Its Fear and Hatred of Gays in the 90s), the next 8 + minute video talks about things like GLSEN and how they're indoctrinating our youth to the ways of homosexuality (I'll be talking a lot about GLSEN in the upcoming Education segment).

Speechless: Silencing the Christians Part 2

8+ minutes

 

[aCultureWarrior]

Something in the Air: Kim Davis, Religious Freedom and a Christian Revolution

Sept. 11, 2015

By Deacon Kenneth Fournier

On September 8, 2015, I drove eight hours to stand with thousands of other Christians from across the confessional spectrum in support of Kim Davis, the Clerk of Court of Rowan County. Constitutional lawyer Mat Staver, my friend and the founder of Liberty Counsel, is defending Kim. I left at four in the morning because I knew I had to be there.

Those who know me have heard me use an expression quite often, “These may be difficult times, but they are our times, we were born and born again for these times. We are living in a new missionary age.”

My experience on Tuesday in Grayson, Kentucky, only added fuel to further fire that conviction.

I long ago stopped talking about our age as post-Christian. Instead, I propose to Christians across the confessional spectrum whenever I speak in public that we need to begin see ourselves as missionaries in a pre-Christian age. I regularly opine on the effort to silence Christians who live their faith outside of the walls of their church buildings. I do so because I do not think many Christians know just how serious this situation has truly become! We have to stand together to expose and oppose the growing anti-Christian efforts to silence the message of the Gospel and the work of the Church.

The kind of lifestyle Christianity which is really needed, which recognizes that being and doing cannot be separated, is what the opponents of the Gospel and the Church abhor...

Read more: http://barbwire.com/2015/09/11/some...religious-freedom-and-a-christian-revolution/

Something in the Air

 

[patrick jane]

You can find information like that at Christian websites such as Americans For Truth About Homosexuality:

http://americansfortruth.com/2007/01/22/bug-chasers-the-men-who-long-to-be-hiv/

You had mentioned that "the piece reminded me of you", how so?

Again: What do the inbreds at the Westboro Baptist Church, the barbarians of Islam and your neo-Nazi's all have in common when it comes to the subject of homosexuality?

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[aCultureWarrior]

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Yet another profound post by Libertarian patrick jane.

I've been meaning to ask you, being that you defend homosexuality:

Quote:
Originally Posted by patrick jane
P.S. i am not against homosexuals or gay marriage either when based on love and family and doing good and charitable deeds. Jesus Christ's Commandments are from the Father and His teachings are as well. Meshak is right -
http://www.theologyonline.com/forums/showpost.php?p=4404135&postcount=12


Are you a 'gay' christian*?

*Not to be confused with adulterous, incestuous or bestial christians.

 

[aCultureWarrior]

More homosexual "tolerance" and "culture".

Speechless: Silencing the Christians Part 3

9+ minutes.

 

[aCultureWarrior]

Here's something new that I'd like to start in the Part 4 thread:

The cartoon of the day:

 

[aCultureWarrior]

More kind and loving words from homosexuals towards Christian Kim Davis:

Homosexual activists are sending sadistic threats to Kim Davis, saying that they will capture her husband, tie him up and force him to watch them rape her. They also said that they will burn her house as they sleep and burn them to death. Here is the video with the full story and commentary:

http://shoebat.com/2015/09/10/homos...-you-alive-civil-unrest-is-coming-to-america/

Ted Shoebat tells it like it is

 

[aCultureWarrior]

And today's cartoon of the day mocks our beloved baby-murdering/ sodomite-loving/Marxist dictator in chief:

 

[Lexington'96]

What is the point of this thread? Christians are being marginalized and the LGBT lobby is becoming ever more dominant. We need to focus on protecting our rights now instead of hypothesizing about what we'll do if Christians get power back.

 

[aCultureWarrior]

What is the point of this thread?

To show what the LGBTQueer movement has done since the decriminalization of homosexuality (and even in a broader sense since the sexual anarchist movement has had laws like adultery, abortion, cohabitation and pornography decriminalized).

Christians are being marginalized and the LGBT lobby is becoming ever more dominant.

Do you still consider yourself a "Christian Libertarian"? You do realize that the term itself is an oxymoron don't you? In any event, I showed in Part 2 (thanks to active participation by your fellow Paulbot, Christian Liberty, aka the Jr. Libertarian) how your false doctrine of not getting government involved in moral matters such as homosexuality fueled the LGBTQueer movement.

We need to focus on protecting our rights now instead of hypothesizing about what we'll do if Christians get power back.

And how would you focus on "protecting our rights" without people who believe in decency (and that isn't only Christians, it involves people of other faiths and people who aren't necessarily believers as well) getting the power back that government has through legislation?

It was a long process to get where we are today, it'll take awhile to return to a land that embraces God and decency.

 

[Lexington'96]

Do you still consider yourself a "Christian Libertarian"? You do realize that the term itself is an oxymoron don't you? In any event, I showed in Part 2 (thanks to active participation by your fellow Paulbot, Christian Liberty, aka the Jr. Libertarian) how your false doctrine of not getting government involved in moral matters such as homosexuality fueled the LGBTQueer movement.

I am a Conservative Christian Libertarian. I don't think that the government should arrest people for victimless crimes, however.

And how would you focus on "protecting our rights" without people who believe in decency (and that isn't only Christians, it involves people of other faiths and people who aren't necessarily believers as well) getting the power back that government has through legislation?

It was a long process to get where we are today, it'll take awhile to return to a land that embraces God and decency.

I'd focus on protecting our rights by using the Constitution and praying that God will keep his people safe. America is no longer a Christian nation and for the foreseeable future we will be fighting for our First Amendment rights. I think that homosexuality should be handled by the church, not the state. But even if I thought it was the state's job, Christians don't even have political power in the US so it's a pointless hypothetical scenario. Most of the world is hostile to True Christianity with a few exceptions like Southern Africa.

We need to recognize that the odds are not in our favor, but with God anything is possible. We should force the LGBT lobby to expend great amounts of time and energy at every possible opportunity and hope that they make a mistake. We need to be examples of love in contrast to the hate emanating from the rainbow flag wavers. We can't really do much else at this point. Organizations like Massresistance put up a valiant effort in the United States have done a great job in warning people in other countries about what happened in Massachusetts. They will probably be a major player in the fight for religious liberty in the next few decades.

But ultimately, we need to put our trust in God and not in politicians to deliver us.

 

[aCultureWarrior]

Quote:
Originally Posted by aCultureWarrior
Do you still consider yourself a "Christian Libertarian"? You do realize that the term itself is an oxymoron don't you? In any event, I showed in Part 2 (thanks to active participation by your fellow Paulbot, Christian Liberty, aka the Jr. Libertarian) how your false doctrine of not getting government involved in moral matters such as homosexuality fueled the LGBTQueer movement.

I am a Conservative Christian Libertarian.

A couple of things:

1). There is only one kind of Christian, i.e. someone that follows the teachings of God as seen in Holy Scripture, i.e. they conserve His values:
conserve: to use or manage wisely; preserve; save

2). If you're a Christian why the need to add the term "Libertarian" onto it?

I don't think that the government should arrest people for victimless crimes, however.

A righteous government (which we pretty much had up until a few decades ago) wouldn't make something a crime unless there are victims. We've seen the victims that come with the homosexual movement (children, families, invaluable institutions), and the people themselves that partake in the abominable act (disease, misery and death).

Of course you Libertarians don't think that a person can be a victim of their own actions (so much for Jesus' 2nd greatest commandment).

But it really doesn't matter what you and your fellow Libertarians "think", it all comes down to what the proper role of government is and the basis of that role (where it comes from).

A Christian acknowledges that it comes from the Bible, such as in Romans 13:4.

Quote: Originally posted by aCultureWarrior
And how would you focus on "protecting our rights" without people who believe in decency (and that isn't only Christians, it involves people of other faiths and people who aren't necessarily believers as well) getting the power back that government has through legislation?

It was a long process to get where we are today, it'll take awhile to return to a land that embraces God and decency.

I'd focus on protecting our rights by using the Constitution and praying that God will keep his people safe.

Where in the Constitution does it say that sexually confused people have a right to sodomize one another? Refer to the index under the Founding Fathers to see what they thought about the act of homosexuality. Needless to say, their original intent wasn't to give sexual deviants and people with an immoral agenda "constitutional rights".

America is no longer a Christian nation and for the foreseeable future we will be fighting for our First Amendment rights. I think that homosexuality should be handled by the church, not the state.

Which church, the numerous ones that are performing homosexual weddings?

Besides, it's not the role of the Church to legislate laws (unless you want to live in a Muslim theocracy).

Each institution that God ordained for the governance of man has it's own role (the Church, the Family and Civil Government) and civil government's role is to legislate righteous laws as seen through God's Eyes.

Civil Government: The Neglected Ministry
http://www.reformed-theology.org/html/issue08/civil_government.htm

But even if I thought it was the state's job, Christians don't even have political power in the US so it's a pointless hypothetical scenario.

When people like you who call themselves "Christian" harp about government staying out of areas where there are no "victims" it certainly doesn't help the cause to restore decency in America.

Most of the world is hostile to True Christianity with a few exceptions like Southern Africa.

I had forgotten how out of touch you Libertarians are with reality. Since the African National Congress took control of South Africa, the LGBTQ movement is flourishing.

From the sodomite periodical The Advocate:

"South Africa is the only African nation that grants full marriage equality and constitutional discrimination protection to it's LGBT citizens".
http://repronetafrica.org/the-state-of-lgbt-equality-in-africa/

We need to recognize that the odds are not in our favor, but with God anything is possible. We should force the LGBT lobby to expend great amounts of time and energy at every possible opportunity and hope that they make a mistake. We need to be examples of love in contrast to the hate emanating from the rainbow flag wavers. We can't really do much else at this point. Organizations like Massresistance put up a valiant effort in the United States have done a great job in warning people in other countries about what happened in Massachusetts. They will probably be a major player in the fight for religious liberty in the next few decades.

But ultimately, we need to put our trust in God and not in politicians to deliver us.

These words keep ringing in my ears:

I don't think that the government should arrest people for victimless crimes, however.

Decide which side you're on: God's and what the righteous role of government is, or secular humanist's man's.

Many of the answers to the problems in today's society are in the title to my 4 part thread:

"Why Homosexuality MUST Be Recriminalized!"

 

[Lexington'96]

A couple of things:

1). There is only one kind of Christian, i.e. someone that follows the teachings of God as seen in Holy Scripture, i.e. they conserve His values:
conserve: to use or manage wisely; preserve; save

2). If you're a Christian why the need to add the term "Libertarian" onto it?

I was pointing out that I am a Christian and I am also a Libertarian. I'm also bilingual, under 6 foot, and live in a rural area. None of those things prevent me from being a Christian though.

A righteous government (which we pretty much had up until a few decades ago) wouldn't make something a crime unless there are victims. We've seen the victims that come with the homosexual movement (children, families, invaluable institutions), and the people themselves that partake in the abominable act (disease, misery and death).

Are you saying that our government has only been unrighteous for the last few decades?

Of course you Libertarians don't think that a person can be a victim of their own actions (so much for Jesus' 2nd greatest commandment).

I've smoked before, does that mean I should go to jail because I was harming myself.

But it really doesn't matter what you and your fellow Libertarians "think", it all comes down to what the proper role of government is and the basis of that role (where it comes from).

A Christian acknowledges that it comes from the Bible, such as in Romans 13:4.

Where does the New Testament give us instructions for what to do when Christians become a majority in a country?

Where in the Constitution does it say that sexually confused people have a right to sodomize one another? Refer to the index under the Founding Fathers to see what they thought about the act of homosexuality. Needless to say, their original intent wasn't to give sexual deviants and people with an immoral agenda "constitutional rights".

Where did I say the Constitution guarantees that?

Which church, the numerous ones that are performing homosexual weddings?

The true Church. False teaching has existed long before gay marriage was invented.

Besides, it's not the role of the Church to legislate laws (unless you want to live in a Muslim theocracy).

Each institution that God ordained for the governance of man has it's own role (the Church, the Family and Civil Government) and civil government's role is to legislate righteous laws as seen through God's Eyes.

Where in the New Testament are we given instructions for what laws to pass?

When people like you who call themselves "Christian" harp about government staying out of areas where there are no "victims" it certainly doesn't help the cause to restore decency in America.

We don't need to arrest smokers to teach people that smoking is bad.

I had forgotten how out of touch you Libertarians are with reality. Since the African National Congress took control of South Africa, the LGBTQ movement is flourishing.

I love how you chose the one country that was the exception. The majority of South Africans, from what I understand, don't support homosexuality. It was imposed by their Supreme Court. Also, South Africa is not the only country in Southern Africa.

Decide which side you're on: God's and what the righteous role of government is, or secular humanist's man's.

Many of the answers to the problems in today's society are in the title to my 4 part thread:

"Why Homosexuality MUST Be Recriminalized!"

It's not going to happen. It's like going to Iran and yelling "criminalize Islam."

 

[TracerBullet]

Here's something new that I'd like to start in the Part 4 thread:

The cartoon of the day:

Women's public rest rooms have toilets right out in the open like that?

 

[TracerBullet]

More kind and loving words from homosexuals towards Christian Kim Davis:

Homosexual activists are sending sadistic threats to Kim Davis, saying that they will capture her husband, tie him up and force him to watch them rape her. They also said that they will burn her house as they sleep and burn them to death. Here is the video with the full story and commentary:

http://shoebat.com/2015/09/10/homos...-you-alive-civil-unrest-is-coming-to-america/

Ted Shoebat tells it like it is

you republish a lot of very stupid (and false) material but this has got to be in top 10.

Homosexuals are going to rape Kim Davis?????

:rotfl:

 

[ok doser]

you've never heard of female on female sexual assault?