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Originally Posted by aCultureWarrior
So in your LGBTQueer/NAMBLA world, "committed parents" (like Terry Miller and his 'wife' Dan Savage) have ménage a trois' and write columns in newspapers that talk about "good pedophiles"?
Ah yes, that yet undiscovered "pedophile gene".
In reality Al, those who were molested as a child often times become the molester.
"Most sexual offenders were sexually abused as children; 40% to 80% of pedophiles were raped as a child,.."
http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/life/2002/2002-03-12-pedophilia.htm
"... Further analysis demonstrated, however, that pedophiles who admitted having an erotic interest in children significantly more often claimed that they had been sexually abused as children than pedophiles who did not admit having such feelings...".
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/2082860
Let's take a look at the column that Dan "the doorknob licker" Savage wrote:
In response to the "theoretical pedophile" question ole Danny boy writes:
“My heart goes out to people to whom nature has given something as powerful and as distracting as a sex drive and no healthy way to express it,” says Dr. James Cantor, a psychologist and the editor in chief of the research journal Sexual Abuse. “Pedophiles are not the only folks in this position, but they are by far the most demonized, regardless of whether they have ever actually caused anyone any kind of harm.”
My heart is going out to you, too, KIW. As I’ve written before, we should acknowledge the existence of “good pedophiles,” who are burdened with a sexual interest in children but who possess the moral sense to resist acting on that interest. It’s a lifelong struggle for “good pedophiles,” and most manage to succeed without any emotional support—to say nothing of credit—whatsoever.
Unfortunately, science doesn’t know much about pedophiles like you, pedophiles who haven’t done anything, because the social stigma is so great that most nonoffending pedophiles never seek treatment. And what research has been done, says Cantor, isn’t very encouraging if you’re looking to free yourself from your attraction to children.
“There is no known way of turning a pedophile into a nonpedophile,” says Cantor. “The best we can do is help a person maximize their self-control and to help them build an otherwise happy and productive life.”
Read more: http://www.philadelphiaweekly.com/n...ay-Im-A-Pedophile-83404047.html#ixzz3ZtRQz0KZ
First of all: if the man is battling pedophile desires but hasn't acted on them, then that no more makes him a pedophile than someone who dreams about murdering the author of a wildly popular homosexuality recriminalization thread a murderer. Actions on desires defines whether or not someone is a pedophile, a murderer, an armed robbery or an arsonist.
The term "good pedophile" is an oxymoron as it means that someone has acted on those desires to molest children.
Secondly, being the God-hating atheist that Dan "U" Savage! is, he believes that people with pedophile desires, like those with homosexuals desires, were born that way and hence doesn't believe in the ability to change.
Is it "good" that someone with pedophile desires doesn't act of them?
Of course, but if "ménage a troi Dan" had an ounce of honesty and decency in his body, he'd attempt to show the "theoretic pedophile" why he has sexual desires for children and that through faith in God (and if necessary psychological therapy) that change is possible.
That being said: Is a "gentle pedophile" the same thing as a "good pedophile"?
Originally Posted by aCultureWarrior
So in your LGBTQueer/NAMBLA world, "committed parents" (like Terry Miller and his 'wife' Dan Savage) have ménage a trois' and write columns in newspapers that talk about "good pedophiles"?
What you seem to have a problem with aCW is in accepting that some people just are innately paedophiles.
But maybe you think that paedophilia is an option we could all choose at will?
Ah yes, that yet undiscovered "pedophile gene".
In reality Al, those who were molested as a child often times become the molester.
"Most sexual offenders were sexually abused as children; 40% to 80% of pedophiles were raped as a child,.."
http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/life/2002/2002-03-12-pedophilia.htm
"... Further analysis demonstrated, however, that pedophiles who admitted having an erotic interest in children significantly more often claimed that they had been sexually abused as children than pedophiles who did not admit having such feelings...".
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/2082860
Let's take a look at the column that Dan "the doorknob licker" Savage wrote:
In response to the "theoretical pedophile" question ole Danny boy writes:
“My heart goes out to people to whom nature has given something as powerful and as distracting as a sex drive and no healthy way to express it,” says Dr. James Cantor, a psychologist and the editor in chief of the research journal Sexual Abuse. “Pedophiles are not the only folks in this position, but they are by far the most demonized, regardless of whether they have ever actually caused anyone any kind of harm.”
My heart is going out to you, too, KIW. As I’ve written before, we should acknowledge the existence of “good pedophiles,” who are burdened with a sexual interest in children but who possess the moral sense to resist acting on that interest. It’s a lifelong struggle for “good pedophiles,” and most manage to succeed without any emotional support—to say nothing of credit—whatsoever.
Unfortunately, science doesn’t know much about pedophiles like you, pedophiles who haven’t done anything, because the social stigma is so great that most nonoffending pedophiles never seek treatment. And what research has been done, says Cantor, isn’t very encouraging if you’re looking to free yourself from your attraction to children.
“There is no known way of turning a pedophile into a nonpedophile,” says Cantor. “The best we can do is help a person maximize their self-control and to help them build an otherwise happy and productive life.”
Read more: http://www.philadelphiaweekly.com/n...ay-Im-A-Pedophile-83404047.html#ixzz3ZtRQz0KZ
First of all: if the man is battling pedophile desires but hasn't acted on them, then that no more makes him a pedophile than someone who dreams about murdering the author of a wildly popular homosexuality recriminalization thread a murderer. Actions on desires defines whether or not someone is a pedophile, a murderer, an armed robbery or an arsonist.
The term "good pedophile" is an oxymoron as it means that someone has acted on those desires to molest children.
Secondly, being the God-hating atheist that Dan "U" Savage! is, he believes that people with pedophile desires, like those with homosexuals desires, were born that way and hence doesn't believe in the ability to change.
Is it "good" that someone with pedophile desires doesn't act of them?
Of course, but if "ménage a troi Dan" had an ounce of honesty and decency in his body, he'd attempt to show the "theoretic pedophile" why he has sexual desires for children and that through faith in God (and if necessary psychological therapy) that change is possible.
That being said: Is a "gentle pedophile" the same thing as a "good pedophile"?
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