Why Calvinist Cannot Defend Their Doctrine of a Limited Atonement

Robert Pate

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Both of you believe in salvation by works, by what a person does, which is A False Gospel!

To NOT respond to the Gospel is to condemn yourself to hell.

We hear that Christ died for our sins and we are effected.

How can this be, that Christ should die for me?

We hear, we believe and we are born again.
 

beloved57

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To NOT respond to the Gospel is to condemn yourself to hell.

We hear that Christ died for our sins and we are effected.

How can this be, that Christ should die for me?

We hear, we believe and we are born again.
You admit, salvation is by what man does, that is a false religion!
 

Nanja

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To NOT respond to the Gospel is to condemn yourself to hell.

We hear that Christ died for our sins and we are effected.

How can this be, that Christ should die for me?

We hear, we believe and we are born again.


A spiritually dead person can't even respond in a way that pleases God
without God the Holy Spirit first quickening them, making them Spiritually Alive.

Rom. 8:7-8
Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God,
neither indeed can be.
So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God.

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Robert Pate

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You admit, salvation is by what man does, that is a false religion!


Lets see.

God sends his only begotten Son into the world to die for the sins of the world, 1 John 2:2.

But then, he doesn't want anyone to hear about or believe it. Because if they did hear and believe and it changed their lives that would be salvation by works. Your doctrine is Satanic.

It is the work of the Holy Spirit to make the Gospel known to all.
 

Robert Pate

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Banned
A spiritually dead person can't even respond in a way that pleases God
without God the Holy Spirit first quickening them, making them Spiritually Alive.

Rom. 8:7-8
Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God,
neither indeed can be.
So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God.

~~~~~

Men become alive by hearing and believing the Gospel. Read about in Acts chapter 2.
 

beloved57

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Lets see.

God sends his only begotten Son into the world to die for the sins of the world, 1 John 2:2.

But then, he doesn't want anyone to hear about or believe it. Because if they did hear and believe and it changed their lives that would be salvation by works. Your doctrine is Satanic.

It is the work of the Holy Spirit to make the Gospel known to all.

You don't believe in Christ Gods Son, you teach that His Death alone failed to save them He died for, that is unbelief!
 

beloved57

Well-known member
A spiritually dead person can't even respond in a way that pleases God
without God the Holy Spirit first quickening them, making them Spiritually Alive.

Rom. 8:7-8
Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God,
neither indeed can be.
So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God.

~~~~~
You speak the Truth!
 

Cedarbay

New member
To NOT respond to the Gospel is to condemn yourself to hell.

We hear that Christ died for our sins and we are effected.

How can this be, that Christ should die for me?

We hear, we believe and we are born again.
Are you a Wesleyan? Where do you attend church? Does your pastor teach this material as well?
 

Robert Pate

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Are you a Wesleyan? Where do you attend church? Does your pastor teach this material as well?


I don't have a church or a religion.

What I do have is a Bible that reveals the work and the person of Jesus Christ.

I don't need or want anything else.
 

Nanja

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I don't have a church or a religion.

What I do have is a Bible that reveals the work and the person of Jesus Christ.

I don't need or want anything else.


You are found to be wanting in understanding the Truth of God's Word Eph. 4:18
which is given John 3:27 exclusively to His Elect 2 Thes. 2:13; 2 Tim. 2:7; Mat. 13:23,
Chosen in Christ Eph. 1:4 according to God's own Purpose and Grace
which was given them in Christ Jesus before the world began 2 Tim. 1:9-10.

~~~~~
 

Bright Raven

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You are found to be wanting in understanding the Truth of God's Word Eph. 4:18
which is given John 3:27 exclusively to His Elect 2 Thes. 2:13; 2 Tim. 2:7; Mat. 13:23,
Chosen in Christ Eph. 1:4 according to God's own Purpose and Grace
which was given them in Christ Jesus before the world began 2 Tim. 1:9-10.

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If we lack wisdom we can ask God and that is not just for the elect.

James 1:5 New King James Version (NKJV)

5 If any of you lacks wisdom, let him ask of God, who gives to all liberally and without reproach, and it will be given to him.
 

beloved57

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You are found to be wanting in understanding the Truth of God's Word Eph. 4:18
which is given John 3:27 exclusively to His Elect 2 Thes. 2:13; 2 Tim. 2:7; Mat. 13:23,
Chosen in Christ Eph. 1:4 according to God's own Purpose and Grace
which was given them in Christ Jesus before the world began 2 Tim. 1:9-10.

~~~~~

Amen Sister!
 

Robert Pate

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Banned
Does your bible have Hebrews 10:24-25 in it?

Just sayin'

Jesus said, "Where two or three are gathered together in my name there I am in the midst of them".

Todays organized church is anti-Christ.

If you want to support anti-Christ then support your local organized church.
 

Brother Ducky

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Jesus said, "Where two or three are gathered together in my name there I am in the midst of them".

Todays organized church is anti-Christ.

If you want to support anti-Christ then support your local organized church.

So, today's organized church is anti-Christ because why? They have more than 2 or 3 attending? Is that your point?

I can assure you that when I attend my home church, at least, and many more that I have attended over the years we gather together in the name of the risen Christ.
 
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