Who Justifieth the Ungodly

beloved57

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Now on what account does God Justify the ungodly elect ? Its upon the ground of Imputed righteousness, those whom God Justifies, He doesnt impute sin, and those He doesnt impute sin, He imputes righteousness without works.

Remember when Paul quoted David, who said Ps 32:1-2

Blessed is he whose transgression is forgiven, whose sin is covered.

2 Blessed is the man unto whom the Lord imputeth not iniquity, and in whose spirit there is no guile.

Now read how Paul understood David here in Rom 4:6-8

6 Even as David also describeth the blessedness of the man, unto whom God imputeth righteousness without works,

7 Saying, Blessed are they whose iniquities are forgiven, and whose sins are covered.

8 Blessed is the man to whom the Lord will not impute sin.


See the correspondence of non imputation of sin with imputed righteousness without works ?

And of course we also know imputed righteousness is also equivalent to Justification.
 

marke

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Now on what account does God Justify the ungodly elect ? Its upon the ground of Imputed righteousness, those whom God Justifies, He doesnt impute sin, and those He doesnt impute sin, He imputes righteousness without works.

Remember when Paul quoted David, who said Ps 32:1-2

Blessed is he whose transgression is forgiven, whose sin is covered.

2 Blessed is the man unto whom the Lord imputeth not iniquity, and in whose spirit there is no guile.

Now read how Paul understood David here in Rom 4:6-8

6 Even as David also describeth the blessedness of the man, unto whom God imputeth righteousness without works,

7 Saying, Blessed are they whose iniquities are forgiven, and whose sins are covered.

8 Blessed is the man to whom the Lord will not impute sin.


See the correspondence of non imputation of sin with imputed righteousness without works ?

And of course we also know imputed righteousness is also equivalent to Justification.
God does not justify those who refuse to repent and believe His word when enlightened by the Holy Spirit. There are no exceptions.
 

Robert Pate

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Now on what account does God Justify the ungodly elect ? Its upon the ground of Imputed righteousness, those whom God Justifies, He doesnt impute sin, and those He doesnt impute sin, He imputes righteousness without works.

Remember when Paul quoted David, who said Ps 32:1-2

Blessed is he whose transgression is forgiven, whose sin is covered.

2 Blessed is the man unto whom the Lord imputeth not iniquity, and in whose spirit there is no guile.

Now read how Paul understood David here in Rom 4:6-8

6 Even as David also describeth the blessedness of the man, unto whom God imputeth righteousness without works,

7 Saying, Blessed are they whose iniquities are forgiven, and whose sins are covered.

8 Blessed is the man to whom the Lord will not impute sin.


See the correspondence of non imputation of sin with imputed righteousness without works ?

And of course we also know imputed righteousness is also equivalent to Justification.

Nothing is ours until it is received by faith, John 1:12.
 

beloved57

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Those who Christ shed His Blood for are Justified by the simple fact, His shed blood was for the remission of their sins Matt 26:28

28 For this is my blood of the new testament, which is shed for many for the remission of sins.

In other words remission of sins equals Justification.
 

beloved57

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Nothing is ours until it is received by faith, John 1:12.
Thats where you wrong. It has to already exist as ours in order for it to be the object of ones Faith. Faith is the evidence and substance of something which invisibly already exists. Faith is worthless if it doesnt have an object. The object of the Justified ones faith is the imputed righteousness of Christ.
 

marke

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Those who Christ shed His Blood for are Justified by the simple fact, His shed blood was for the remission of their sins Matt 26:28

28 For this is my blood of the new testament, which is shed for many for the remission of sins.

In other words remission of sins equals Justification.
Jesus sent His disciples into all the world to preach that whosoever believes in Jesus will receive remission of sins.

Luke 24:47
And that repentance and remission of sins should be preached in his name among all nations, beginning at Jerusalem.

Acts 2:38
Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.
 

Nanja

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Those who Christ shed His Blood for are Justified by the simple fact, His shed blood was for the remission of their sins Matt 26:28

28 For this is my blood of the new testament, which is shed for many for the remission of sins.

In other words remission of sins equals Justification.
Amen Brother !
 

marke

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Amen Brother !
Jesus' blood was shed for the remission of sins at the same time God was reconciling the world unto Himself so sinners could be forgiven of their sins and have their sins remitted if only they will believe in Jesus.

2 Corinthians 5:19
To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation.

John 3:17
For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.
 

Nanja

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Those who Christ shed His Blood for are Justified by the simple fact, His shed blood was for the remission of their sins Matt 26:28

28 For this is my blood of the new testament, which is shed for many for the remission of sins.

In other words remission of sins equals Justification.
Exactly !
 

marke

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Exactly !
Those unfortunate souls who believe and preach that justification has nothing to do with the sinner's duty to repent of sins and do the will of God fail to properly comprehend everything the Bible says about justification. Jesus tells us that by the sinner's words shall the sinner either be justified or condemned.

Matthew 12:37
For by thy words thou shalt be justified, and by thy words thou shalt be condemned.
 

Nanja

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Those unfortunate souls who believe and preach that justification has nothing to do with the sinner's duty to repent of sins and do the will of God fail to properly comprehend everything the Bible says about justification. Jesus tells us that by the sinner's words shall the sinner either be justified or condemned.

Matthew 12:37
For by thy words thou shalt be justified, and by thy words thou shalt be condemned.
That verse Matt. 12:37 simply means that a man's words is evidence of his being justified or lost.
For before a person is saved, all his words / works are nothing but filthy rags in God's Sight Is. 64:6 !
 

marke

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That verse Matt. 12:37 simply means that a man's words is evidence of his being justified or lost.
For before a person is saved, all his words / works are nothing but filthy rags in God's Sight Is. 64:6 !
You are right. Before a sinner gets saved he can do nothing to gain God's approval except for repenting of his sins and seeking forgiveness based upon Jesus' death on the cross for the sins of the whole world. And afterwards, a Christian's words prove he has believed and received the gospel message and been born again for that reason.
 

beloved57

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excerpts from a sermon by clay curtis on Justification and its various phases.

Romans 8: 30…and whom he called, them he also justified:

God justified his people in his eternal purpose
. When God “blessed us with all spiritual blessings in heavenly places in Christ: According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world” those blessings included this spiritual blessing of justification. This was God’s eternal purpose—his eternal decree in Christ Jesus his Son—this is God,

Isaisah 46:10: Declaring the end from the beginning, and from ancient times the things that are not yet done, saying, My counsel shall stand, and I will do all my pleasure: 11 Calling…the man that executeth my counsel from a far country: yea, I have spoken it, I will also bring it to pass; I have purposed it, I will also do it.

In eternity, when God called Christ to execute his counsel from a far country, God looked only to his Son and our Surety became “the lamb slain from the foundation of the world” (Rev 13: 8). Therefore, in the fulness of time, the Son of God took flesh and went to the cross and justified his people by his blood. Rom 5:9


  • Acts 4: 28: For to do whatsoever thy hand and thy counsel determined before to be done.

  • When God called us to believe on Christ, he purged our conscience to know “by him all that believe are justified from all things from which you could not be justified by the law of Moses” (Acts 13: 39). In other words, he justified us in the court of our conscience through faith in his blood. Rom 5:1

  • Then there is coming a day in judgment when God shall declare us justified before all! We were justified from eternally in the lamb slain from the foundation of the world, justified representatively on the cross by Christ’s blood, justified experimentally in the court of our conscience and shall be justified declaratively before all in the day of judgment.
 

Nanja

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excerpts from a sermon by clay curtis on Justification and its various phases.

Romans 8: 30…and whom he called, them he also justified:

God justified his people in his eternal purpose
. When God “blessed us with all spiritual blessings in heavenly places in Christ: According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world” those blessings included this spiritual blessing of justification. This was God’s eternal purpose—his eternal decree in Christ Jesus his Son—this is God,

Isaisah 46:10: Declaring the end from the beginning, and from ancient times the things that are not yet done, saying, My counsel shall stand, and I will do all my pleasure: 11 Calling…the man that executeth my counsel from a far country: yea, I have spoken it, I will also bring it to pass; I have purposed it, I will also do it.

In eternity, when God called Christ to execute his counsel from a far country, God looked only to his Son and our Surety became “the lamb slain from the foundation of the world” (Rev 13: 8). Therefore, in the fulness of time, the Son of God took flesh and went to the cross and justified his people by his blood. Rom 5:9


  • Acts 4: 28: For to do whatsoever thy hand and thy counsel determined before to be done.

  • When God called us to believe on Christ, he purged our conscience to know “by him all that believe are justified from all things from which you could not be justified by the law of Moses” (Acts 13: 39). In other words, he justified us in the court of our conscience through faith in his blood. Rom 5:1

  • Then there is coming a day in judgment when God shall declare us justified before all! We were justified from eternally in the lamb slain from the foundation of the world, justified representatively on the cross by Christ’s blood, justified experimentally in the court of our conscience and shall be justified declaratively before all in the day of judgment.
Amen Brother, and certainly a great Blessing indeed for all God's Elect to be reminded of these Great Truths of Eternal Justification by the Blood of Christ the Lamb, slain on behalf of all His Sheep John 10:11, 15 before the foundation of the World Rev. 13:8 !
 

beloved57

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Christ Justified the ungodly since they were ungodly when He died for them, and the fact that He died for one constitutes that one Justified Rom 8:33-34

33 Who shall lay any thing to the charge of God's elect? It is God that justifieth.

34 Who is he that condemneth? It is Christ that died, yea rather, that is risen again, who is even at the right hand of God, who also maketh intercession for us.

Now lets look back at scripture in Rom 5:6-8

6 For when we were yet without strength, in due time Christ died for the ungodly.

7 For scarcely for a righteous man will one die: yet peradventure for a good man some would even dare to die.

8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us.

Yes, that’s when Christ died for His people. When they were yet sinners, without strength, ungodly
. When they were enemies of God, at enmity with God, gone out of the way, with mouths full of cursing and bitterness, feet swift to shed blood, with destruction and misery in their ways, having no fear of God before their eyes (Romans 3:10-18). That’s when they were sinners.

“And the way of peace have they not known…” Romans 3:17

But Christ died for them. God justified them.
 

marke

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Christ Justified the ungodly since they were ungodly when He died for them, and the fact that He died for one constitutes that one Justified Rom 8:33-34

33 Who shall lay any thing to the charge of God's elect? It is God that justifieth.

34 Who is he that condemneth? It is Christ that died, yea rather, that is risen again, who is even at the right hand of God, who also maketh intercession for us.

Now lets look back at scripture in Rom 5:6-8

6 For when we were yet without strength, in due time Christ died for the ungodly.

7 For scarcely for a righteous man will one die: yet peradventure for a good man some would even dare to die.

8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us.

Yes, that’s when Christ died for His people. When they were yet sinners, without strength, ungodly
. When they were enemies of God, at enmity with God, gone out of the way, with mouths full of cursing and bitterness, feet swift to shed blood, with destruction and misery in their ways, having no fear of God before their eyes (Romans 3:10-18). That’s when they were sinners.

“And the way of peace have they not known…” Romans 3:17

But Christ died for them. God justified them.
God cannot justify an unrepentant sinner. That would make Him an unjust judge. That would be like a human judge telling one murderer He was going to forgive him for no logical human reason while telling another murderer He would never forgive him for any reason whatsoever, just because He feels like it.
 

beloved57

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Ian Potts writes:

How is a man justified? By the works of the law? No. By the faith of Jesus Christ. Not by faith in Jesus Christ. Our faith doesn’t justify us, it is Christ’s death by which we are justified. Then ‘by the faith of Jesus Christ’. Why? Because His death was an act of that faith.


And what is a result of being justified by Christ’s death, by His faith? The result is that “we have believed in Jesus Christ”. Our belief doesn’t justify us, it is a result of our justification, inwrought by the Spirit. Our belief brings us to an experimental knowledge of our justification before God subjectively in which God declares a sentence of justification in our hearts, but it is God that justified us objectively in the Person of His Son, who shed His blood for His people
. And when Christ shed His blood for that people the righteousness of God was unto all of them from that very moment, to be applied by the Spirit upon all of them when they believe, “even the righteousness of God which is by faith of Jesus Christ unto all and upon all them that believe: for there is no difference”. For we are justified, not by the works of the law, but by the faith of Jesus Christ
 

beloved57

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Justification by Peter L. Meney

"Being justified freely by his grace"

Most true Christians know the word justification and most will be able to tell you they believe themselves to have been justified by faith. But what is justification and why is it so important for believers in the Lord Jesus Christ to have a proper understanding of this term?

Here are seven key points with respect to justification that all believers should know and understand. If we are truly to appreciate what God has done for us in the sacrifice of his Son, our Saviour, we must see our position in terms of God's eternal love and mercy.

What justification is

Justification is a pronouncing a person righteous according to law as though he had never sinned. An important distinction here is to distinguish between pardon and justification. Pardon for sin is receiving mercy when we have been tried under law, found guilty and convicted. Justification is to have been tried and declared not guilty as though one had never sinned or transgressed the law. Also, while pardon takes away sin or at least the condemnation and guilt of our sin, it does not make us righteous. Justification on the other hand does. Not in the sense that sinners have righteousness poured into them so that they become sinless, but in the sense that God regards them as if they were righteous and reckons them to be so. Justification is the imputation of righteousness whereby a sinner is considered by God to be righteous.

The source of justification

The source of a Christian's justification is the Triune God. Only God can declare a sinner righteous because it is God who has been sinned against and God who is the judge of our sin. God therefore is the originator of a believer's justification. However, each person in the Trinity is actively engaged in the justification of a sinner. The Father, as author, established the terms of our justification agreeing to accept the ransom of Jesus Christ as the ground of reconciliation between God and man. Christ, as representative, perfectly obeyed, magnified and honoured the holy law of God. The Father accepted that righteousness, imputing it to His chosen people and declaring them righteous in His sight through the obedience of His Son. The Holy Spirit then brings the merits of this work of Christ to the heart of the sinner. He convinces men of their need, shows them the beauty of Christ's righteousness and bestows faith by which they trust in that completed work and the justifying purpose of God. John Gill summarised this Triune work by saying, 'the Father contrives it, the Son has procured it, and the Spirit applies it'.

What initiates justification

In this way we can clearly see that the justification of a sinner is God's work, not man's. Our justification does not flow from our obedience to the law. If it did we would be justified by works and not by grace. Nor are we justified by obedience to the gospel as if the gospel were an easier or milder form of law. Faith is not obedience to law. Our Christian profession does not justify us, nor, and this is important for it is widely misunderstood, does our believing the gospel and trusting in Christ. It is not the sinner's belief or his act of believing that justifies him before God. Rather it is the object of a believer's faith, specifically, the righteousness of Christ, and not the exercise of faith which God accepts. Justification is Christ's righteousness imputed to the sinner without any initiating act on the part of the sinner (Romans 4:6). To quote John Gill again,

We are, indeed, said to be justified by faith (Romans 5:1), but not by faith, as an act of ours, for then we should be justified by works . but we are justified by faith objectively, as it looks to, receives, apprehends, and embraces Christ's righteousness for justification.

It is God who justifies the sinner and not the sinner who justifies himself by his act of faith. We are justified for the sake of the Lord Jesus Christ, who by living obediently to the law won this justification for us and freely bore our sin in suffering and death, to cleanse us from guilt and remove our penalty.

How we are justified

Justification requires righteousness. Remember the distinction between justification and pardon? We know that the law convicts all men as unrighteous sinners so the righteousness of another must reckoned to us if we are going to be free from the law's condemnation. This is God's work. He justifies by imputing righteousness (God justifies the ungodly). Our state and God's demands require imputation and just as Adam's sin became ours by imputation so Christ's righteousness comes to all His people by imputation. Just as our sin became Christ's by imputation so His righteousness becomes ours (2 Corinthians 5:21).

When we are justified

When does God justify sinners? Some say the elect were justified when the Lord Jesus died, some say it was when the Lord rose again. Today a popular teaching is that justification takes place when a sinner believes and becomes a Christian. Other teachings have placed justification in the Garden of Eden immediately after the fall, or at the last judgement. However, in light of what we have learned above, it is clear that justification, i.e. the pronouncing of sinners as righteous by the imputation of Christ's righteousness, is the result and consequence of covenant agreements between the Father and the Son, regarding Christ's suretiship and substitutionary atonement for His bride. These covenants are from eternity and prove the case for justification from eternity. Those who teach justification conditional upon man's act of faith fail to do justice to the Biblical evidence of Romans 4:5 where we are told that God justifies the ungodly. Faith is the fruit of justification, not the other way around. Justification is what has been declared by God and accomplished by Christ. Faith lays hold upon that Word.

The people who are justified

The objects of justification are the elect people of God, His people chosen from before the foundation of the world. They are justified, according to Romans 8 and freed from all condemnation through Christ's representative and substitutionary death. Only the elect will be converted, only they elect will be given the gift of faith, only the elect will be saved (Romans 5:9,10). Nevertheless, this people are a great number whom no man can number. God's righteous servant has justified many (Isaiah 53:11).

The effect of justification

The elect of God, whom He has justified in Christ, are free from all wrath of God, Christ having interposed Himself in their place and borne their condemnation. They are reconciled to God and have peace with Him. Because of their sins here on earth they sometimes feel far from God and must sometimes be disciplined in a fatherly and loving way, but they are free from all condemnation and will never experience the judgement of God. These justified ones are converted from an ungodly state in time by the work of the Holy Spirit, obtain peace of conscience by the blood of Christ and have grace to enter boldly into the presence of God in prayer, worship and ultimately in their glorified bodies. A major effect of justification is sanctification, for 'whom he justified, them he also glorified.'(Romans 8:30).

The blessing of justification is a privilege of grace that only God could devise and only Christ accomplish. It is an act of God's free grace, bestowed completely upon all the elect, once and for all time. All the elect have the same justification. There are no degrees, no one is more justified than another. All the elect are perfectly righteous before God by the imputed righteousness of Christ. The justification of a sinner cannot be revoked and every sinner who exercises the gift of faith is assured of salvation by the declared will of God.

Here are two final points about justification. Justification does not take sin out of the believer. The elect are free from sin in that they are free from the condemnation for sin - Christ having borne their sin and carried their sorrow. Nor does justification discourage the performance of good works. The elect are created in Christ Jesus unto good works (Ephesians 2:10). On the contrary, justification enables the child of God to deny ungodliness and live soberly, righteously, and godly, in this present world to the glory of God, their Saviour (Titus 2:12).
 
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