Who Justifieth the Ungodly

Nanja

Nanja

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Robert Pate said:
The blind leading the blind and they will both fall into the ditch, Matthew 15:14.
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Pate is a liar against the True Gospel of the Grace of God!


Paul preached the Gospel of the Grace of God by Divine Election:

Eph. 1:4-11
4 According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love:
5 Having predestinated us unto the adoption of children by Jesus Christ to himself, according to the good pleasure of his will,
6 To the praise of the glory of his grace, wherein he hath made us accepted in the beloved.
7 In whom we have redemption through his blood, the forgiveness of sins, according to the riches of his grace;
8 Wherein he hath abounded toward us in all wisdom and prudence;
9 Having made known unto us the mystery of his will, according to his good pleasure which he hath purposed in himself:
10 That in the dispensation of the fulness of times he might gather together in one all things in Christ, both which are in heaven, and which are on earth; even in him:
11 In whom also we have obtained an inheritance, being predestinated according to the purpose of him who worketh all things after the counsel of his own will:


2 Tim. 1:9
Who hath saved us, and called us with an holy calling, not according to our works, but according to his own purpose and grace, which was given us in Christ Jesus before the world began



Gal. 1:8-9
8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.
9 As we said before, so say I now again, If any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.

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beloved57

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Nanja said:
Amen, Brother! Christ's Death was only for God's Election of Grace Rom. 11:5-7, chosen In Union with Christ Jesus before the foundation of the world to have Redemption through His Blood Eph. 1:4-7, "the Redemption that is In Christ Jesus" Rom. 3:24. They were Justified freely [dōrean; undeservedly] totally apart from anything done by them, such as exercising their own faith, repentance, accepting a free gift, obedience to His Commands, or anything else as determined by a person that he does in his vain attempt to make himself right with God.

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Praise the Lord!
 
beloved57

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Robert Pate said:
If you knew the Gospel you would not be a Calvinist. You have blinded yourself to the wonderful truth of the "Historical Gospel" of Jesus Christ, and now you will have to suffer the consequences of unbelief.
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You hate the True God and His Gospel and His Christ.

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beloved57

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Nanja said:
Amen, Brother! Christ's Death was only for God's Election of Grace Rom. 11:5-7, chosen In Union with Christ Jesus before the foundation of the world to have Redemption through His Blood Eph. 1:4-7, "the Redemption that is In Christ Jesus" Rom. 3:24. They were Justified freely [dōrean; undeservedly] totally apart from anything done by them, such as exercising their own faith, repentance, accepting a free gift, obedience to His Commands, or anything else as determined by a person that he does in his vain attempt to make himself right with God.

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Nanja said:
Right, he is in the majority.

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Yes Matt 7:13 Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat:
 
Nanja

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Originally Posted by Nanja
Amen, Brother! Christ's Death was only for God's Election of Grace Rom. 11:5-7, chosen In Union with Christ Jesus before the foundation of the world to have Redemption through His Blood Eph. 1:4-7, "the Redemption that is In Christ Jesus" Rom. 3:24. They were Justified freely [dōrean; undeservedly] totally apart from anything done by them, such as exercising their own faith, repentance, accepting a free gift, obedience to His Commands, or anything else as determined by a person that he does in his vain attempt to make himself right with God.

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Nanja

Right, he is in the majority.

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beloved57 said:
Yes Matt 7:13 Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat:
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Exactly, and v. 14 continues further:

Mat. 7:14
Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.


The "few" that shall find that narrow Way of Salvation by Christ John 14:6, are only a remnant that God reserved for Himself Is. 1:9, His Election of Grace Chosen in Christ from Everlasting to have Redemption through His Blood Eph. 1:4, 7.

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beloved57

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Nanja said:
Originally Posted by Nanja


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Exactly, and v. 14 continues further:

Mat. 7:14
Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.


The "few" that shall find that narrow Way of Salvation by Christ John 14:6, are only a remnant that God reserved for Himself Is. 1:9, His Election of Grace Chosen in Christ from Everlasting to have Redemption through His Blood Eph. 1:4, 7.

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Yes, only a remnant world shall be saved, consisting of God's Elect, the Israel of God.

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Nanja

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beloved57 said:
Yes, only a remnant world shall be saved, consisting of God's Elect, the Israel of God.

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So true, that's the only world that God Loved John 3:16-17, Chosen in Love Eph. 1:4; Deut. 7:6-7 and which was Promised Salvation Is. 45:17.

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beloved57

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Rom 5:1
Therefore being justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ:

To be Justified by Faith is when one has been given spiritual assurance by God the Spirit, that they have been freely Justified, or Made Righteus by the Lord Jesus Christ, by His obedience Rom 5:19
For as by one man's disobedience many were made sinners, so by the obedience of one shall many be made righteous.
 
Nanja

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beloved57 said:
Rom 5:1
Therefore being justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ:

To be Justified by Faith is when one has been given spiritual assurance by God the Spirit, that they have been freely Justified, or Made Righteus by the Lord Jesus Christ, by His obedience Rom 5:19
For as by one man's disobedience many were made sinners, so by the obedience of one shall many be made righteous.
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Amen, It's the Faith which is Fruit of the Spirit, or the Blessing of Abraham; a Blessing of The Spirit which unmistakeably reveals to them that they are one whom Christ was made a curse for; it reveals their Sonship!


Gal. 3:13-14
13 Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law, being made a curse for us: for it is written, Cursed is every one that hangeth on a tree:
14 That the blessing of Abraham might come on the Gentiles through Jesus Christ; that we might receive the promise of the Spirit through faith.

Gal. 4:4-6
4 But when the fulness of the time was come, God sent forth his Son, made of a woman, made under the law,
5 To redeem them that were under the law, that we might receive the adoption of sons.
6 And because ye are sons, God hath sent forth the Spirit of his Son into your hearts, crying, Abba, Father.

Rom. 8:14-16
14 For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God.
15 For ye have not received the spirit of bondage again to fear; but ye have received the Spirit of adoption, whereby we cry, Abba, Father.
16 The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God:
17 And if children, then heirs; heirs of God, and joint-heirs with Christ; if so be that we suffer with him, that we may be also glorified together.


1 Pet. 2:5
Ye also, as lively stones, are built up a spiritual house, an holy priesthood, to offer up spiritual sacrifices, acceptable to God by Jesus Christ.

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beloved57

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As is Salvation, Justification is promised only to the Seed of Israel !


Isa 45:17, 25

But Israel shall be saved in the Lord with an everlasting salvation:
ye shall not be ashamed nor confounded world without end.

In the Lord shall all the seed of Israel be justified,
and shall glory.

So in Rom 5:1

Therefore being justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ: These Justified ones by Faith are the Seed of Israel/Abraham as mentioned in Rom 4:16

16 Therefore it is of faith, that it might be by grace; to the end the promise might be sure to all the seed; not to that only which is of the law, but to that also which is of the faith of Abraham; who is the father of us all,

Again, this is the Seed of Israel Isa 45:25

In the Lord[Jesus Christ] shall all the seed of Israel be justified,
and shall glory
 
Nanja

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beloved57 said:
As is Salvation, Justification is promised only to the Seed of Israel !


Isa 45:17, 25

But Israel shall be saved in the Lord with an everlasting salvation:
ye shall not be ashamed nor confounded world without end.

In the Lord shall all the seed of Israel be justified,
and shall glory.

So in Rom 5:1

Therefore being justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ: These Justified ones by Faith are the Seed of Israel/Abraham as mentioned in Rom 4:16

16 Therefore it is of faith, that it might be by grace; to the end the promise might be sure to all the seed; not to that only which is of the law, but to that also which is of the faith of Abraham; who is the father of us all,

Again, this is the Seed of Israel Isa 45:25

In the Lord[Jesus Christ] shall all the seed of Israel be justified,
and shall glory
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Amen Brother, just as you have shown, the Seed of Israel is "not to that only which is of the law", namely Abraham's physical descendants according to the flesh Rom. 9:8.

But the Seed of Israel that was promised Salvation / Justification Is. 45:17,25, is spiritual and is comprised of all the Election of Grace chosen In Union with Christ Eph. 1:4-5, jew or Gentile: The Seed of Christ.

Gal. 3:16, 29
16 Now to Abraham and his seed were the promises made. He saith not, And to seeds, as of many; but as of one, And to thy seed, which is Christ.
29 And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.

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beloved57

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Nanja said:
Amen Brother, just as you have shown, the Seed of Israel is "not to that only which is of the law", namely Abraham's physical descendants according to the flesh Rom. 9:8.

But the Seed of Israel that was promised Salvation / Justification Is. 45:17,25, is spiritual and is comprised of all the Election of Grace chosen In Union with Christ Eph. 1:4-5, jew or Gentile: The Seed of Christ.

Gal. 3:16, 29
16 Now to Abraham and his seed were the promises made. He saith not, And to seeds, as of many; but as of one, And to thy seed, which is Christ.
29 And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.

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Amen Sister!

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beloved57

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Justified before God simply by the fact some were chosen in Christ before the foundation, Eph 1:4 which makes the Gods Elect, hence based soley upon that they were Justified Rom 8:33

33 Who shall lay any thing to the charge of God's elect? It is God that justifieth.


The word for elect here, the greek word eklektos which means:


  1. picked out, chosen
    2. chosen by God,
      2. to obtain salvation through Christ

        Its an adjective of eklegomai, the verb Paul uses in Eph 1:4 chosen, as God chose them for Himself in Christ before the foundation, and that fact alone Justified them before Him !
 
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