Nang
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Amen.
And as there is only one body of Christ, there is also only one Gospel of Christ and one Kingdom of God e.g. Luke 10:9-11; Romans 14:16-17; Hebrews 12:28; Revelation 12:10
ECT What is the Gospel?
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Amen.
And as there is only one body of Christ, there is also only one Gospel of Christ and one Kingdom of God e.g. Luke 10:9-11; Romans 14:16-17; Hebrews 12:28; Revelation 12:10
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I think the D'ist view of themselves is that they favor Israel because they support the 2nd program in spite of the NT, and await things to happen in modern Israel.
heir
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The gospel of God is the who of Jesus Christ and that God raised Him from the dead with power (Romans 1:1-4 KJV). Yes, Peter and Paul both preached the gospel of God, but even the why of the resurrection was different between the two. Peter preached that Christ was raised to sit on David's throne (Acts 2:30 KJV) while Paul preached that Christ was raised again for our justification (Romans 4:25 KJV). Peter NEVER preached the gospel of Christ as the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth to the Jew first and also to the Greek as Paul mentions in Romans 1:16 KJV which makes two gospels mentioned in Romans 1 alone. I hope you get over your unbelief and allow the scripture to mean what it says!
heir
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gospel of God mentioned in Romans 1:1 KJV
gospel of Christ mentioned in Romans 1:16 KJV
Whoomp! There they are!
heir
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How could it all be one when it was before a mystery (Romans 16:25-27 KJV, 1 Corinthians 2:6-8 KJV)? The answer is that it couldn't have been the same! Drop your religion and believe the Bible!
Nang
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Whoomp!
Wrong!
Only in your imagination and attempt to sell a false teaching . . .
(Christ IS God which requires no distinction in Gospel message from above.)
Some of us await things to happen in the future because GOD said so.
Nang
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Your problem is you have misinterpreted what that "mystery" actually referred to. When you adopt a wrong premise, you come up with wrong conclusions . . And when discussing the Holy Gospel
of Jesus Christ, it is very important you get it right.
And so far, you don't . . .
And so far . . . you prove to be unteachable and not correctable.
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heir
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:chuckle:
heir
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WHO is not WHY. They are different!
heir
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No need to interpret it, just believe it!
Romans 16:25 Now to him that is of power to stablish you according to my gospel, and the preaching of Jesus Christ, according to the revelation of the mystery, which was kept secret since the world began,
Romans 16:26 But now is made manifest, and by the scriptures of the prophets, according to the commandment of the everlasting God, made known to all nations for the obedience of faith:
Romans 16:27 To God only wise, be glory through Jesus Christ for ever. Amen.
Paul preached the kingdom of God to Jews and Gentiles.
Acts 20:21 testifying to Jews and also to Greeks, repentance toward God and faith toward our Lord Jesus Christ.
Acts 20:25 And indeed, now I know that you all, among whom I have gone preaching the kingdom of God, will see my face no more.
Acts 20:25 And indeed, now I know that you all, among whom I have gone preaching the kingdom of God, will see my face no more.
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Yes, yes, Paul speaks often of the gospel as a mystery ‘hidden for long ages past but now revealed’, which is revealed to him and made known through the proclamation of the gospel (e.g., 1 Cor 2:1, 7; Eph 1:9; 3:3-4, 9; 6:19; Col 1:26; 4:3).
But now in the Romans 16 doxology Paul adds that it is revealed and made known through the prophetic writings (the Old Testament) by the command of the eternal God, contrary to anti-covenantalists who regard the church age as being a mystery revealed to Paul and not as something predicted by the Old Testament prophets. That these prophetic writings are from the Old Testament is clear from Romans 1:1-2, wherein Paul describes the gospel as something God promised beforehand through his prophets in the Holy Scriptures. As the gospel is preached God opens people’s eyes, especially Jewish eyes, to see that the OT Scriptures testify to Christ (2 Cor 3:14-18; Luke 24:25-27, 44-47).
So that no one might raise a dispute on the subject, and charge the gospel with being a new thing, as do the anti-covenantalists, and thus defame it, Paul refers to the prophetic Scriptures, in which we now see, that what is fulfilled had been foretold; for all the Prophets have rendered to the gospel a clear testimony, that it can in no other way be so fully confirmed. God thus duly prepared the minds of his people, lest the novelty of what they were not accustomed to should astonish them too much.
For those anti-covenantalists that would then raise up objection that Paul is being inconsistent by saying things have been kept secret yet have been foretold in the Old Testament, Peter unties the knot by noting that the Prophets, when they diligently inquired of the salvation made known to us, ministered, not to themselves, but to us (1 Peter 1:12). God then was at that time silent, though He spoke, for God held in suspense the revelation of those things concerning which He designed that His servants should prophesy.
Paul's words also were in regard to differences between the Old and the New Testament. Though the Prophets formerly taught all those things which have been explained by Christ and his Apostles, they taught them with much obscurity, that in comparison with the clear brightness of New Testament's gospel light, it should be no wonder that those things are said to have been hidden which are now made manifest.
To believers, Paul adds in the Romans 16 doxology that Christ is the wisdom of God (1 Cor 1:24, 30), for in him are hidden all the treasures of wisdom and knowledge (Col 2:3). For Paul the wisdom of God determines the way people will come to know him—not through human wisdom but through the preaching of the cross of Christ (1 Cor 1:21-24; 2: 67). Also, it is God’s intention that through the church, the manifold wisdom of God should be made known to the rulers and authorities in the heavenly realms (Eph 3: 10), that is, the manifold wisdom of God in the mystery of the gospel now revealed.
From the mystery spoke of it is evident that it means there is not a distinction between the Old and the New Testament as far as the way of salvation is concerned (one Gospel!), but rather the essence of the mystery was that one day the Gentiles would not only be entering God’s kingdom in large numbers but would be fellow-sharers, participants on equal terms, with the elect from among the Jews. Christ in you, the hope of glory (Col. 1:27) would be the solid basis for present salvation and future eschatological glory for everyone, regardless of race, who would, by God’s sovereign grace, place his trust in Our Lord.
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Paul's gospel was a mystery hidden in the scriptures until given by the revelation of Jesus Christ!
It's called the mystery of Christ. That “Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures" was a mystery, but "according to the scriptures". It's called the hidden wisdom of God in a mystery which God ordained before the world unto "our" glory. Who the "our" was at that time can be shown to be those to whom Paul preached 1 Corinthians 15:1-4 KJV to during Acts (Acts 13:16 KJV, Acts 13:26 KJV, Acts 26:17 KJV). We can see that it was a mystery and why God kept it secret here (Romans 16:25-27 KJV, 1 Corinthians 2:6-8 KJV). The devil thought he had the victory (Matthew 21:38 KJV), but God had a mystery!
And this has nothing to do with being "anti-covenant". God has a covenant with Israel future in one accord with (Acts 3:19-21 KJV, Romans 11:26-27 KJV, Hebrews 8:8-12 KJV) and it will come to pass!
heir
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The Lord and the 12 preached the gospel of the kingdom in Matthew, Mark, Luke and John and it did not include the fact that Christ would die, let alone for anyone's sins. That right there should get you to examine your false premise that it is all the same gospel as it cannot be!
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The good news from God about who his Son is. (gospel of God)
The good news about what the Son of God did for us. (gospel of Christ)
No need to freak out about it. Both are good news, but only one is the power of God unto salvation for every one that believeth.
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It has everything to do with covenantalism vs. anti-covenantalism (dispensationalism).
http://www.faithbibleonline.net/MiscDoctrine/DispCov.htm
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To borrow heir's word against the many Mads who do not hold these errors, you two are in "unbelief."
Your Mad is inconsistent, but there is no reasoning with either of you.
Despite each your ever railing on at the non Mads on TOL about how they are not being consistent in their handling of the Scriptures :chuckle:
SaulToPaul 2
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I feel the same about your brand of MAD, it's simply too Holfordian and quasi-Acts 2.