SaulToPaul 2
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ECT What is the Gospel?
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Wick Stick
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Any single Bible verse that is quoted is necessarily out of context.
However, we use Bible verses this way all the time. And, the New Testament quotes the Old Testament in the same way - out of context. I personally believe that the Bible is meant to be used this way.
Wick Stick
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I felt like talking about it.
If you only ever talk about thing you don't know... you must not have many conversations.
Nope.
Both Peter and Paul had preached the Gospel of, or from God, concerning, or about His Son: the Gospel of, or about Christ.
Peter preached him according to Prophecy, Paul according to the revelation of the Mystery.
SaulToPaul 2
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Your ol hit and run, ay - in that case, likewise, bro - the best to you and your few :chuckle:
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Better two nice and cold Root beers out of those old, ice cold frosty Beer mugs, bro - sincerely
1 Cor. 15:1-4 KJV "gospel"
Death
Burial
Resurrection
Survey the book...
1.The 12 did not know of the impending dbr-it was hid from them, until later in the Lord's ministry-and yet, prior to them knowing, they were preaching "the gospel of the kingdom:"
"For he taught his disciples, and said unto them, The Son of man is delivered into the hands of men, and they shall kill him; and after that he is killed, he shall rise the third day. But they understood not that saying, and were afraid to ask him." Mark 9:31-32 KJV
"Then he took unto him the twelve, and said unto them, Behold, we go up to Jerusalem, and all things that are written by the prophets concerning the Son of man shall be accomplished. For he shall be delivered unto the Gentiles, and shall be mocked, and spitefully entreated, and spitted on: And they shall scourge him, and put him to death: and the third day he shall rise again. And they understood none of these things: and this saying was hid from them, neither knew they the things which were spoken." Luke 18:31-34 KJV
"For as yet they knew not the scripture, that he must rise again from the dead." John 20:9 KJV
2. Peter tried to prevent the Lord Jesus Christ's death, and His death was a key component of 1 Cor. 15:1-4, by which we are reconciled:
"From that time forth began Jesus to shew unto his disciples, how that he must go unto Jerusalem, and suffer many things of the elders and chief priests and scribes, and be killed, and be raised again the third day. Then Peter took him, and began to rebuke him, saying, Be it far from thee, Lord: this shall not be unto thee" Mt. 16:21-22 KJV
"And he began to teach them, that the Son of man must suffer many things, and be rejected of the elders, and of the chief priests, and scribes, and be killed, and after three days rise again. And he spake that saying openly. And Peter took him, and began to rebuke him." Mark 8:31-32 KJV
Peter’s response was to rebuke the Lord Jesus Christ. Today, in this dispensation, when someone rebukes the gospel of Christ, what do we call that someone? Lost.Peter certainly wasn’t “looking forward" to the dbr.
3. Even after the Lord's death, burial, and resurrection, the 12 initially did not believe it:
"And when they saw him, they worshipped him: but some doubted." Mt. 28:17 KJV
"And they, when they had heard that he was alive, and had been seen of her, believed not. After that he appeared in another form unto two of them, as they walked, and went into the country. And they went and told it unto the residue: neither believed they them. Afterward he appeared unto the eleven as they sat at meat, and upbraided them with their unbelief and hardness of heart, because they believed not them which had seen him after he was risen." Mark 16:11 KJV
"And returned from the sepulchre, and told all these things unto the eleven, and to all the rest. It was Mary Magdalene and Joanna, and Mary the mother of James, and other women that were with them, which told these things unto the apostles. And their words seemed to them as idle tales, and they believed them not." Luke 24:9-11 KJV
What do we call someone who “believes not” the resurrection? You got it-lost! If Peter and the 10 were “looking forward to" the dbr, they certainly would not have denied the resurrection after it happened.
" And while they yet believed not for joy, and wondered, he said unto them, Have ye here any meat?" Luke 24:41 KJV
Therefore, they were not preaching the dbr, "the gospel" of 1 Cor. 15:1-4 KJV, as a basis of justification, at least prior to its occurrence, but they were preaching the gospel of the kingdom. They certainly were not "looking forward" to it, and this "didn't fully understand it" jazz is made up-they knew NADA about it, as it was hid from them. They initially denied the resurrection.
There is more than one piece of good news/gospel, in the book, and the gospel/good news of the kingdom, which the Lord Jesus Christ, and the 12, including Judas, preached for approximately 3 years,is not equivalent to the gospel/good news of 1 Cor. 15:1-4 KJV.
QED. Thread closed. Lock down. The end. RIP. DOA.
Death
Burial
Resurrection
Survey the book...
1.The 12 did not know of the impending dbr-it was hid from them, until later in the Lord's ministry-and yet, prior to them knowing, they were preaching "the gospel of the kingdom:"
"For he taught his disciples, and said unto them, The Son of man is delivered into the hands of men, and they shall kill him; and after that he is killed, he shall rise the third day. But they understood not that saying, and were afraid to ask him." Mark 9:31-32 KJV
"Then he took unto him the twelve, and said unto them, Behold, we go up to Jerusalem, and all things that are written by the prophets concerning the Son of man shall be accomplished. For he shall be delivered unto the Gentiles, and shall be mocked, and spitefully entreated, and spitted on: And they shall scourge him, and put him to death: and the third day he shall rise again. And they understood none of these things: and this saying was hid from them, neither knew they the things which were spoken." Luke 18:31-34 KJV
"For as yet they knew not the scripture, that he must rise again from the dead." John 20:9 KJV
2. Peter tried to prevent the Lord Jesus Christ's death, and His death was a key component of 1 Cor. 15:1-4, by which we are reconciled:
"From that time forth began Jesus to shew unto his disciples, how that he must go unto Jerusalem, and suffer many things of the elders and chief priests and scribes, and be killed, and be raised again the third day. Then Peter took him, and began to rebuke him, saying, Be it far from thee, Lord: this shall not be unto thee" Mt. 16:21-22 KJV
"And he began to teach them, that the Son of man must suffer many things, and be rejected of the elders, and of the chief priests, and scribes, and be killed, and after three days rise again. And he spake that saying openly. And Peter took him, and began to rebuke him." Mark 8:31-32 KJV
Peter’s response was to rebuke the Lord Jesus Christ. Today, in this dispensation, when someone rebukes the gospel of Christ, what do we call that someone? Lost.Peter certainly wasn’t “looking forward" to the dbr.
3. Even after the Lord's death, burial, and resurrection, the 12 initially did not believe it:
"And when they saw him, they worshipped him: but some doubted." Mt. 28:17 KJV
"And they, when they had heard that he was alive, and had been seen of her, believed not. After that he appeared in another form unto two of them, as they walked, and went into the country. And they went and told it unto the residue: neither believed they them. Afterward he appeared unto the eleven as they sat at meat, and upbraided them with their unbelief and hardness of heart, because they believed not them which had seen him after he was risen." Mark 16:11 KJV
"And returned from the sepulchre, and told all these things unto the eleven, and to all the rest. It was Mary Magdalene and Joanna, and Mary the mother of James, and other women that were with them, which told these things unto the apostles. And their words seemed to them as idle tales, and they believed them not." Luke 24:9-11 KJV
What do we call someone who “believes not” the resurrection? You got it-lost! If Peter and the 10 were “looking forward to" the dbr, they certainly would not have denied the resurrection after it happened.
" And while they yet believed not for joy, and wondered, he said unto them, Have ye here any meat?" Luke 24:41 KJV
Therefore, they were not preaching the dbr, "the gospel" of 1 Cor. 15:1-4 KJV, as a basis of justification, at least prior to its occurrence, but they were preaching the gospel of the kingdom. They certainly were not "looking forward" to it, and this "didn't fully understand it" jazz is made up-they knew NADA about it, as it was hid from them. They initially denied the resurrection.
There is more than one piece of good news/gospel, in the book, and the gospel/good news of the kingdom, which the Lord Jesus Christ, and the 12, including Judas, preached for approximately 3 years,is not equivalent to the gospel/good news of 1 Cor. 15:1-4 KJV.
QED. Thread closed. Lock down. The end. RIP. DOA.
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SaulToPaul 2
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I appreciate saint john w the great
I appreciate saint john w the great
However, Jesus was speaking to a particular group of men to whom he gave authority to legislate for the church. They did and their legislation cannot be amended or modified. What they bound is binding and what they loosed is not binding.
No one today has God's authority to legislate for God's church.
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No. One Gospel. What a Reformer does is rightly divide Scripture.
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yes, Peter to the circumcised and Paul to the uncircumcised
Made up.
Translated: No!!!! Only one piece of good news in the bible!!!!You meanie , wacko dispies!!!!! My church SOF says the opposite!!!!!
Morons....Every last one of you, clueless as to the meaning of the word "gospel."
musterion
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Oh yes she does. She's been around TOL more than long enough to know Heir is anything but antisemitic in any sense. Therein lies the slander.
Now, if we're to seriously get into 'Christian' antisemitism, we can always discuss Replacement theology...
Good point.
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It is not slander to point out the wrong spirit of a theological view and approach.
Just the opposite.
Anyone who has been exposed to Dispensationalism, in several of its various forms, will admit a real bias against the Jewish people when it comes to discussion of their destiny compared to that of the church of Jesus Christ.
Just the false notion that Jews are earthly people but the body of Christ is heavenly, infers a superiority held by Dispies.
The fact that they must wait for thousands of years to inherit their earthly kingdom and finally receive the promises of their withheld land, while the church enjoys access to the throne of God in heaven at the present time, infers the same.
And there are numerous other examples I could set forth . . .
A book could be written about this subject, but I do not want to write it, because the subject is too despicable.
Dispensationalism is a despicable system of thought, that is not made better by the negative spirit witnessed by their advocates.
Others observing them daily here on TOL, should look at what they really believe, teach, and how they treat people . . and then give their behaviors and words very close scrutiny.
1 Corinthians 12:12 For as the body is one, and hath many members, and all the members of that one body, being many, are one body: so also is Christ. 12:13 For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether we be Jews or Gentiles, whether we be bond or free; and have been all made to drink into one Spirit.