ECT WHAT ACTS 2:28 REALLY MEANS !!

[turbosixx]

When people would confess their sins and repent of them.

Repent of sins means to be sorry of your sins and desire to stop doing them.

This doesn't say we pledge to God. Why not use the scripture that says how we appeal to God?

21Corresponding to that, baptism now saves you-not the removal of dirt from the flesh, but an appeal to God for a good conscience-through the resurrection of Jesus Christ,

BIBLE SAYS baptism is an appeal to God.

 

[God's Truth]

Yes, it's tells us water baptism is not a bath but a pledge.

In the prior verse he uses an example of people being saved and says they were saved through water.

20to those who were disobedient long ago when God waited patiently in the days of Noah while the ark was being built. In it only a few people, eight in all, were saved through water,

He uses that example to prove water baptism saves.

The pledge is made and water is involed.

1 Corinthians 10:1 For I do not want you to be ignorant of the fact, brothers and sisters, that our ancestors were all under the cloud and that they all passed through the sea. 2 They were all baptized into Moses in the cloud and in the sea.

 

[God's Truth]

This doesn't say we pledge to God. Why not use the scripture that says how we appeal to God?

21Corresponding to that, baptism now saves you-not the removal of dirt from the flesh, but an appeal to God for a good conscience-through the resurrection of Jesus Christ,

BIBLE SAYS baptism is an appeal to God.

You cannot get away from Cornelius and his whole household and the Samaritans.

They were NOT saved at water baptism.

 

[turbosixx]

You cannot get away from Cornelius and his whole household and the Samaritans.

They were NOT saved at water baptism.

So are you saying water baptism doesn't save based on these scriptures?

 

[God's Truth]

This doesn't say we pledge to God. Why not use the scripture that says how we appeal to God?

21Corresponding to that, baptism now saves you-not the removal of dirt from the flesh, but an appeal to God for a good conscience-through the resurrection of Jesus Christ,

BIBLE SAYS baptism is an appeal to God.

We appeal to God by confessing, repenting, and pledging.

 

[turbosixx]

We appeal to God by confessing, repenting, and pledging.

Why not use a scripture that tells us how we appeal to God?

 

[God's Truth]

So are you saying water baptism doesn't save based on these scriptures?

It is what is in our heart.

 

[turbosixx]

It is what is in our heart.

Just come out and say it, you do not believe water baptism saves.

 

[God's Truth]

Why not use a scripture that tells us how we appeal to God?

I have been showing you but you will not accept it.

 

[God's Truth]

Just come out and say it, you do not believe water baptism saves.

Baptism of the Holy Spirit saves.

You won't acknowledge the scriptures that say people were saved before and after a water baptism.

 

[lifeisgood]

Yes, it's tells us water baptism is not a bath but a pledge.

In the prior verse he uses an example of people being saved and says they were saved through water.

20to those who were disobedient long ago when God waited patiently in the days of Noah while the ark was being built. In it only a few people, eight in all, were saved through water,

He uses that example to prove water baptism saves.

Water baptism does not save / has never saved anyone.

Abraham was not water baptized and he was saved.
Isaac was not water baptized and he was saved.
Jacob was not water baptized and he was saved, etc., etc., etc.

Water baptism is simply a symbol of what has ALREADY happened in the inside --- I am saved.

A person does not get saved by being water baptized, they get water baptized because they have been saved.

 

[turbosixx]

I have been showing you but you will not accept it.

Yes, the Holy Spirit adds us to Christ but it takes water and the Spirit. I only accept what the bible says.

Bible says baptism saves us, and I believe it.

6He who has believed and has been baptized shall be saved; but he who has disbelieved shall be condemned.

 

[God's Truth]

Turbosixx thinks God contradicted Himself with many people.

He would rather think that than think he is wrong.

 

[God's Truth]

Yes, the Holy Spirit adds us to Christ but it takes water and the Spirit. I only accept what the bible says.

Bible says baptism saves us, and I believe it.

6He who has believed and has been baptized shall be saved; but he who has disbelieved shall be condemned.

God does not contradict Himself.

 

[turbosixx]

Water baptism does not save / has never saved anyone.

Abraham was not water baptized and he was saved.
Isaac was not water baptized and he was saved.
Jacob was not water baptized and he was saved, etc., etc., etc.

Water baptism is simply a symbol of what has ALREADY happened in the inside --- I am saved.

A person does not get saved by being water baptized, they get water baptized because they have been saved.

Then you disagree with God because he says it does.

21and this water symbolizes baptism that now saves you also—not the removal of dirt from the body but the pledge of a clear conscience toward God. It saves you by the resurrection of Jesus Christ,

 

[God's Truth]

Then you disagree with God because he says it does.

21and this water symbolizes baptism that now saves you also—not the removal of dirt from the body but the pledge of a clear conscience toward God. It saves you by the resurrection of Jesus Christ,

The pledge of a clear conscience!

 

[God's Truth]

Then you disagree with God because he says it does.

21and this water symbolizes baptism that now saves you also—not the removal of dirt from the body but the pledge of a clear conscience toward God. It saves you by the resurrection of Jesus Christ,

The resurrection of Jesus Christ.

 

[turbosixx]

God does not contradict Himself.

Ok, the bible says in plain language "baptism that now saves you" but you choose to use examples that you just might not fully understand, to prove to yourself that baptism cannot save you.

I choose to look closer at the examples to understand how the two agree rather than disbelieve what is clearly written in black and white.

 

[turbosixx]

The resurrection of Jesus Christ.

It saves you by the resurrection of Jesus Christ,

The pronoun IT is referring to the noun baptism.

 

[turbosixx]

The pledge of a clear conscience!

By being baptized, according to God's written word.