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genuineoriginal

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Even if that were true (and, of course, you give NO reference to any such thing), it does NOT meant that they were wrong about Matthias.
I tried to give Matthias the benefit of the doubt, but that wasn't good enough for you.

Your FALLACIOUS logic gets you into a LOT of trouble.
You should spend a lot of time (like I did) examining the doctrines you were taught to see why those doctrines do not match up to the message of the whole Bible.
 

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Here is the OP

Paul is probably the 12th apostle that will sit on the twelve thrones judging the twelve tribes of Israel because Matthias appears to have been chosen in error.
That is complete and utter nonsense, based on nothing but your own preconceived ideas.

Once AGAIN, you give NO support from scripture that Matthias was chosen in error. Instead you just keep regurgitating your silly opinion.

There is a reason Paul did not refer to Jesus as "the Son of man":
Paul never knew Jesus before the death, burial, and resurrection of Jesus.
Jesus only referred to Himself as "the Son of man" during His earthly ministry before the cross.
BINGO... and Paul's ministry of Christ was NOT based on Christ's dominion over the earth as was His ministry to the circumcision.

Paul only met Jesus after God exalted Jesus to the highest place, so Paul only knew Him as his Lord.
Yep... rightly divided!

During His earthly ministry to Israel (Rom 15:8) He referred to Himself as the Son of man.
During His ministry to Paul, the apostle of the gentiles, no such reference.
 

genuineoriginal

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That is complete and utter nonsense, based on nothing but your own preconceived ideas.

Once AGAIN, you give NO support from scripture that Matthias was chosen in error. Instead you just keep regurgitating your silly opinion.
Scripture does not support the idea that Matthias was supposed to be chosen, but it does support the idea that Jesus specifically chose Paul to be an apostle.
Matthias was named an apostle by the will of man.
Paul was named an apostle by the will of God, as proven by his ministry.

1 Corinthians 1:1
1 Paul, called to be an apostle of Christ Jesus by the will of God, and our brother Sosthenes,​

 

genuineoriginal

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Paul's ministry of Christ was NOT based on Christ's dominion over the earth as was His ministry to the circumcision.
You seem to have missed the mark with that statement.
Paul understood the kingdom of God much better than Darby, Scofield, Ryrie, and Walvoord ever could, which is why Paul got it right and the others got it wrong.
 

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Scripture does not support the idea that Matthias was supposed to be chosen, but it does support the idea that Jesus specifically chose Paul to be an apostle.
Matthias was named an apostle by the will of man.
Paul was named an apostle by the will of God, as proven by his ministry.

1 Corinthians 1:1
1 Paul, called to be an apostle of Christ Jesus by the will of God, and our brother Sosthenes,​

Dude... for the last time before I put you back on my ignore list.

Scripture says that they rightly chose Matthias and that he was NUMBERED WITH THE ELEVEN.
He did everything else that the eleven did, he was filled with the Holy Ghost at Pentecost, etc. etc. etc.

NOT ONCE does the SCRIPTURE give ANY HINT that a mistake was made. That is just YOUR bogus theory.
 

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Paul is probably the 12th apostle that will sit on the twelve thrones judging the twelve tribes of Israel because Matthias appears to have been chosen in error.

Nope.

Paul is a member of the Body of Christ.

The head of the body is Christ.

Everything Paul said indicates that he is at the same level as believers.

The twelve, however, will rule OVER the twelve tribes, as the corporate head of Israel, as opposed to Christ, who is the head of the Body of Christ.
 

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Nope.

Paul is a member of the Body of Christ.

The head of the body is Christ.

Everything Paul said indicates that he is at the same level as believers.

The twelve, however, will rule OVER the twelve tribes, as the corporate head of Israel, as opposed to Christ, who is the head of the Body of Christ.
GO must think that Paul was also quite confused. Paul met with the twelve in Jerusalem and they all agreed that Paul's ministry would remain SEPARATE from the twelve. So much for him being the replacement for Judas.
 

genuineoriginal

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Dude... for the last time before I put you back on my ignore list.

Scripture says that they rightly chose Matthias and that he was NUMBERED WITH THE ELEVEN.
He did everything else that the eleven did, he was filled with the Holy Ghost at Pentecost, etc. etc. etc.

NOT ONCE does the SCRIPTURE give ANY HINT that a mistake was made. That is just YOUR bogus theory.
Was the book of the Acts of the Apostles originally written in King James English or in Greek?
If they were written in King James English, your point might have some support, but unfortunately they were written in Greek.

Matthias and the Numbering of the Twelve Apostles

Finally, in the Greek text of Acts 1:26, Luke hints that the election, while an understandable thing for these men to do in the circumstances, was not divinely sanctioned. He says of the election of Matthias that he was "voted down along with the eleven" (the verb synkatapsephizo: συγκαταψηφίζω). According to its etymology, the base verb should mean to "vote down" i.e., defeat, or, better, "to condemn". The word itself only occurs one other place in all of Greek literature (Plutarch) where it means "join in condemnation"; here we also have a passive voice so on that model it should mean "be jointly condemned with". There may be doubt on the part of some scholars about the precise meaning of the verb in this context, but according to all linguistic convention it should at the very least convey a negative connotation - something that only makes sense if we see Luke here as being careful not to endorse the election of Matthias (cf. Lk.22:3 where Judas is described as being "of the number" of the disciples [ESV, NKJV, correctly from the Greek], implying that he was not really one in fact).

 
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