The kingdom that James as preaching as the SAME kingdom that Jesus was preaching. It's the SAME kingdom where the TWELVE apostles will sit on TWELVE thrones judging the TWELVE tribes of Israel.
Paul was well versed to preach about all of the various kingdoms of God.
It was also the very same kingdom that Paul preached.
That is simply your ridiculous BIAS preventing your from believing the truth.
Rubbish... Paul is the apostle of the GENTILES and NOT one of the TWELVE apostles that will with on TWELVE thrones judging the TWELVE tribes of Israel.
There is many things which the Bible does not explicitly state that are still completely true.
Sometimes yes, sometimes no.
Acts 18:4 4 And he reasoned in the synagogue every sabbath, and persuaded the Jews and the Greeks. |
Paul was chosen to be an apostle by the will of God
2 Corinthians 1:1 1 Paul, an apostle of Jesus Christ by the will of God, and Timothy our brother, unto the church of God which is at Corinth, with all the saints which are in all Achaia: |
Acts 1:26 26 And they gave forth their lots; and the lot fell upon Matthias; and he was numbered with the eleven apostles. |
Paul always preached the same kingdom of God to the Jews and to the Gentiles.
Read the context of that statement.
Acts 20:21-27 21 Testifying both to the Jews, and also to the Greeks, repentance toward God, and faith toward our Lord Jesus Christ. 22 And now, behold, I go bound in the spirit unto Jerusalem, not knowing the things that shall befall me there: 23 Save that the Holy Ghost witnesseth in every city, saying that bonds and afflictions abide me. 24 But none of these things move me, neither count I my life dear unto myself, so that I might finish my course with joy, and the ministry, which I have received of the Lord Jesus, to testify the gospel of the grace of God. 25 And now, behold, I know that ye all, among whom I have gone preaching the kingdom of God, shall see my face no more. 26 Wherefore I take you to record this day, that I am pure from the blood of all men. 27 For I have not shunned to declare unto you all the counsel of God. |
I really enjoy your FALLACIOUS reasoning.
:duh:
Indeed, and this was PER God's way to do it.
You're completely blind to the kingdom that God promised to Israel alone.
The eleven were not commanded to cast lots to choose a twelfth.
| Who’s the 12th apostle in Rev 21:14? Most Christians speculate that the twelfth apostle is either Matthias or Paul we do not know. Scripture does not tell us. However, many believe that it will be Matthias because of the pattern of 12 is directly related to Israel. Although there are many who think it could be Matthias, there are others who think it could be Paul, because of the great work Paul did in spreading the gospel and building the church. Nobody really knows for certain, because Revelation 21 doesn’t give their names, but I believe it is Matthias. It seems much more likely that Matthias would be the twelfth because of the pattern of 12 in leadership and government of Israel and because Paul was the “apostle to the Gentiles.” And it seems likely that those whose name are on the foundations of New Jerusalem are the names of twelve who walked with Christ during His earthly ministry. The twelfth name inscribed on the foundations of New Jerusalem has been discussed and debated for centuries. But, remember, only God knows. I encourage you to do additional study and come to your own decision as to whether it might be Mattias or Paul. |
Jesus preached the same kingdom of God that Paul preached, but you refuse to see it.
How do you know that? The Bible does not say that.
My position is the Biblical position that says that Matthias was NUMBERED with the eleven.
You make a claim, but cannot support it.
That is my point
You don't get it.... you made a claim that is NOT supported by scripture.
Not quite. I objected to your claim because your claim cannot be supported by scripture.
| Matthias and the Numbering of the Twelve Apostles Remember that the election of Matthias was held before Pentecost, after which Peter (and his fellows) are suddenly much more effective for God (as one would expect with the coming of the Holy Spirit). Notice too that to "elect" Matthias, they turn to the Old Testament device of casting lots, something Jesus never did and something that is never authorized in the New Testament (or practiced elsewhere ever again). Notice that God did not communicate to Peter the need to get a new number 12 (although Peter did receive direct revelation when it was time to bring the gospel to the gentiles); and notice that when God decided to choose number 12, our Lord Jesus Christ Himself appeared to Paul in a very miraculous way that left no doubt as to God's call, God's "election" of Paul as number 12. Matthias was no doubt a fine believer, but he was no apostle - except in the eyes of men (and erroneously so). Perhaps it would be more helpful to say about the apostles that "God never had more than 12". Finally, in the Greek text of Acts 1:26, Luke hints that the election, while an understandable thing for these men to do in the circumstances, was not divinely sanctioned. He says of the election of Matthias that he was "voted down along with the eleven" (the verb synkatapsephizo: συγκαταψηφίζω). According to its etymology, the base verb should mean to "vote down" i.e., defeat, or, better, "to condemn". The word itself only occurs one other place in all of Greek literature (Plutarch) where it means "join in condemnation"; here we also have a passive voice so on that model it should mean "be jointly condemned with". There may be doubt on the part of some scholars about the precise meaning of the verb in this context, but according to all linguistic convention it should at the very least convey a negative connotation - something that only makes sense if we see Luke here as being careful not to endorse the election of Matthias (cf. Lk.22:3 where Judas is described as being "of the number" of the disciples [ESV, NKJV, correctly from the Greek], implying that he was not really one in fact). One final point on this has to do with the procedure followed by Peter and the others. Everywhere else in the Old Testament where the lot is used, godly inquiries start by asking the general question, "should we do A or not?" (e.g. 1Sam.30:8). The question these men should have asked was "should we choose a replacement for Judas or not?", instead of, "here are two choices for you Lord, take it or leave it". |
You are the one that has ASSUMPTION problems. The scripture shows NO indication that there was a problem with the selection of Matthias to replace Judas.
The scriptures show many indications that there was a problem with the disciples deciding that they needed to fulfill prophecy on their own.
| Matthias and the Numbering of the Twelve Apostles Remember that the election of Matthias was held before Pentecost, after which Peter (and his fellows) are suddenly much more effective for God (as one would expect with the coming of the Holy Spirit). Notice too that to "elect" Matthias, they turn to the Old Testament device of casting lots, something Jesus never did and something that is never authorized in the New Testament (or practiced elsewhere ever again). Notice that God did not communicate to Peter the need to get a new number 12 (although Peter did receive direct revelation when it was time to bring the gospel to the gentiles); and notice that when God decided to choose number 12, our Lord Jesus Christ Himself appeared to Paul in a very miraculous way that left no doubt as to God's call, God's "election" of Paul as number 12. Matthias was no doubt a fine believer, but he was no apostle - except in the eyes of men (and erroneously so). Perhaps it would be more helpful to say about the apostles that "God never had more than 12". Finally, in the Greek text of Acts 1:26, Luke hints that the election, while an understandable thing for these men to do in the circumstances, was not divinely sanctioned. He says of the election of Matthias that he was "voted down along with the eleven" (the verb synkatapsephizo: συγκαταψηφίζω). According to its etymology, the base verb should mean to "vote down" i.e., defeat, or, better, "to condemn". The word itself only occurs one other place in all of Greek literature (Plutarch) where it means "join in condemnation"; here we also have a passive voice so on that model it should mean "be jointly condemned with". There may be doubt on the part of some scholars about the precise meaning of the verb in this context, but according to all linguistic convention it should at the very least convey a negative connotation - something that only makes sense if we see Luke here as being careful not to endorse the election of Matthias (cf. Lk.22:3 where Judas is described as being "of the number" of the disciples [ESV, NKJV, correctly from the Greek], implying that he was not really one in fact). One final point on this has to do with the procedure followed by Peter and the others. Everywhere else in the Old Testament where the lot is used, godly inquiries start by asking the general question, "should we do A or not?" (e.g. 1Sam.30:8). The question these men should have asked was "should we choose a replacement for Judas or not?", instead of, "here are two choices for you Lord, take it or leave it". |
Even if that were true (and, of course, you give NO reference to any such thing), it does NOT mean that they were wrong about Matthias. Your FALLACIOUS logic gets you into a LOT of trouble.
Here is the OP
Paul is probably the 12th apostle that will sit on the twelve thrones judging the twelve tribes of Israel because Matthias appears to have been chosen in error.
Philippians 2:8-9 NIV 8 And being found in appearance as a man, he humbled himself by becoming obedient to death— even death on a cross! 9 Therefore God exalted him to the highest place and gave him the name that is above every name, |