Trump's spontaneous rise to power will surprise even him.

Gurucam

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Trump's spontaneous rise to power will surprise even him. I suspect that Trump's consequential popularity is surprising him and many other Old/traditional world leaders even now.

Trump entry into politics was a test of a perceived change in world consciousness. As a politician, Trump is unorthodox. His unexpected and unprecedented rise confirms that there is a serious underlying change in world consciousness that has displaced the Old.

Trump's spontaneous rise is powered by newly strengthened 'not seen' (i.e. none physical) force of Christ consciousness. Trump is able to function in this New Christian system. Hence his rise. Clinton is not able to function in this New Christian system. She is stuck in the Old. In fact, Clinton is the Old who 'died but is refusing to lie down'.

Trump is an instrument of change. He is not there for his own agenda. However he may not be aware of this fact. In fact, in the Christian order, no one will be about one's own agendas.

Seems that Trump's success as a businessman can be credited to his capacity to take his 'ego self' out his decision making and act directly on intuition. Intuitions (deep off the cuff 'real time' knowing and responses) are so much more informed and honest than intellectualizing (premeditated responses). Trump's 'unchecked utterances' to the public is a testimony to this conclusion. This is also a Christian quality and actualization.

Now, election results will be Brexit like. It will go against all traditional expectations and predictions. Old/tradition people and traditional ways are now totally foreign on earth. However Old/tradition people may not yet be awakened to this fact. Most will perish and be 'out-a-here' without awakening.

Traditional people (including traditional leaders) are the Old who died (a while back) to gave way to the New. It will take a little longer for them to realize that theirs is the now dead way and they are now the walking and talking dead on earth.

A New Age in Christ is at hand, on earth. The world's dominating reality has changed from Old Testament to New Testament. A very Beautiful/Heavenly Age has dawned on the surface of earth. The Old Satanic is being dissolved.

Brace for it.

Get on board with the changed time, for your own relevance and survival, on earth. Be without fear. Fear is the absence of God. Embrace change, it is the only thing that is constant.
 
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gcthomas

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Trump, in the very unlikely event of every holding office, would be the first member of the new Idiocracy.

Are you sure that it is God's plan to place an ageing, bigoted, mysoginist, lying, nihillistic, self-worshipping idiot into a position of power?
 

Tinark

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The narcissist believes the vast majority love him but there are a few enemies out to get him. Hence why he says if he loses the election is rigged. To the extent that Trump is a narcissist (and there are many signs that he is), he is not surprised one bit.
 

Gurucam

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Trump, in the very unlikely event of every holding office, would be the first member of the new Idiocracy.

Are you sure that it is God's plan to place an ageing, bigoted, mysoginist, lying, nihillistic, self-worshipping idiot into a position of power?

I am making no judgment of Trump. However I have to point out that, although Hitler's ideas did not become a world reality, he did bring change.

My intuition is to not take Trump literally to his seeming wild statements. But to trust his brazen honesty about himself and his way of operating and not his 'moral correctness or incorrectness. Fact is there are no correct or incorrect moral positions, apart from the formal 'laws of their land', for Christians.

Trump is an outward expression of deeper ideas. His statements are simply conceptual, at this point. They are not to be taken literally.

A person who operates intuitively would not know before hand what he will actually do. And clearly Trump is functionally intuitive.

Intuitions is the new way forward. However the Old way is to expect a premeditated plan. Clearly this is not Trump way of operating. Therefore Trump is regularly boxed into a corner.

A leader should have a good heart as displayed by an open and plain frankness about what he stand for and not whether or not his ideas conforms to general ideas of morality. Christianity recognizes no absolute moral codes, only the democratically determined laws of countries.

A person who is brazenly honest about what he stand for and do in his private life is guaranteed to respect your right to make your individual life on your individual terms. This too, is an essential fabric of a life 'in Christ'.

A good leader cannot be one who premeditate political correctness and practice political correctness on his or her citizens. Such a person is clueless and can only create hell on earth. This approach is Old/Mosaic. It will no longer work to win election or to govern.

God works and guides in mysterious 'real time' way which can be discerned only intuitively through and from, the Spirit of Jesus/Spirit of Truth. The world is now more strongly under the control of Christ consciousness, not our 'intellectual wisdom'. One has to trust faith, increasingly.

Trump is consequentially popular, in spite of your assessment above that is shared by very many people. . . . what does it mean then, given that Trump is so consequentially popular?

Clearly something is not 'real' about the basis of your judgment.

These are simply my intuitive insights. I cannot say that I am sure of anything.
 
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Gurucam

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Clinton endorced Trump. She confirm that he is a good Christian man.

Clinton endorced Trump. She confirm that he is a good Christian man.

The safest measure of a man is to look at his most personal and closest fruits. All an authentic Christian person need, in order to support Trump, is the very clear and obvious truth in the compliment which Clinton payed to Trump (about his children) . . . and she ought to know.

Matthew: 7 King James Version (KJV)
16 Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?
17 Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit.


There is absolutely no other system for judgment in Christianity. There is no absolute morality for Christians.

Romans: 14 King James Version (KJV)
14 I know, and am persuaded by the Lord Jesus, that there is nothing unclean of itself: but to him that esteemeth any thing to be unclean, to him it is unclean.

Clearly Trump has a very exemplary family life with children (or fruits) from many marriages. It is impossible for a bad person to have a good family life and bring forth good children. Trump's family is an expression that he is capable of love and expressing love.

This is the Christian position.

You want a proven loving person (in actions not words) to be your leader . . . this is the number one requirement . . actually the only requirement.

How a man lives with and treat his children (his most intimate fruits) is a live indication of how he is capable of living with and treating you.
 
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Gurucam

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Please let us encourage people to stay with and on, facts

Please let us encourage people to stay with and on, facts

The narcissist believes the vast majority love him but there are a few enemies out to get him. Hence why he says if he loses the election is rigged. To the extent that Trump is a narcissist (and there are many signs that he is), he is not surprised one bit.

Please let us encourage people to stay with and on, facts. Not 'here-say' Banana republic type of proper-gander.

Fact is, even accusations that are support by only the claim of one party should not be admissible . . . especially claims that are surfacing at election time.

You guys want to convict on here-say. Why are you so bent on turning the U.S.A into a Banana Republic?

A person is totally innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. This a founding principle of the U.S.A. that is constitutionally protected and guaranteed.

In a Christian civilization, the first aim of courts is not to judge, get convictions and dispense punishment. It is to encourage and support civility. Fact is vengeance belongs to the Lord:

Romans: 12 King James Version (KJV)
19 Dearly beloved, avenge not yourselves, but rather give place unto wrath: for it is written, Vengeance is mine; I will repay, saith the Lord.

 
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Gurucam

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. . . even Jesus did not like 'the dead'. Do not vote for 'the dead'.

. . . even Jesus did not like 'the dead'. Do not vote for 'the dead'.

. . . even Jesus did not like everyone. He seem to like only His disciples:

Matthew: 8 King James Version (KJV)
22 But Jesus said unto him (a disciple), Follow me; and let the dead bury their dead.

It is critically important for Christians to know who Jesus like and do not like and why. And then be guided accordingly.

'The dead' is a definition for someone whose heart or spirit is 'waxed gross' (i.e. covered over). This to be dead to (or unaware of) one's spiritual body. Humans have two bodies both of which can 'die'.

1 Corinthians: 15 KJV N.T.
44 It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body.


For Jesus and the saints, 'the dead' means 'the spiritually dead'. Jesus and the saints, do not refer to death of one's physical body, as 'the dead'. They call a person whose physical body is dead: 'sleeping'. You have to know Jesus' language. That is, if you are interested in being Christian.

The above confirms who are 'the dead who are left to bury their dead' and not follow Jesus. The following adds further clarity:
.

Matthew: 13 KJV N.T.
10 And the disciples came, and said unto him, Why speakest thou unto them in parables?
11 He answered and said unto them, Because it is given unto you to know the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven, but to them it is not given.
12 For whosoever hath, to him shall be given, and he shall have more abundance: but whosoever hath not, from him shall be taken away even that he hath.
15 For this people's heart is waxed gross, and their ears are dull of hearing, and their eyes they have closed; lest at any time they should see with their eyes and hear with their ears, and should understand with their heart, and should be converted, and I should heal them.


Jesus instructed his disciple to simply leave the dead to their own devises.

'The dead' are people whose hearts/spirits are waxed gross and therefore not given by God to know/get the mysteries of God's kingdom of heaven.

When one cease having a heart/spirit that is waxed gross (covered over) he or she becomes aware of his or her own heart/spirit. This to be converted, only then can Jesus heal one.

Christians are converted people who were then healed by Jesus. They are the chosen few who actually know who are described as 'the dead'. 'The dead' cannot and do not bring forth good fruits, like Trump did, (i.e. according to Clinton).

For authentic Christians, the fact that Trump brought forth good fruits makes him totally fit to be President. The fact that Clinton endorse Trump on this basic Christian ground, should now leave absolutely no doubt in the minds of Christians, about supporting Trump.

You would not want to vote for one of 'the dead'. Their hearts/spirits are waxed gross and they are not given to know the mysteries of God's kingdom of heaven. This means that they cannot even desire to create a heavenly life for their citizens.

'The dead' cannot serve in the newness of spirit/love. They cannot be N.T. people. They have to remain O.T. people. You should be aware that, the Holy KJV N.T. instructs newly converted people to throw out and transgress, the ten commandments so as to serve in the newness of spirit. This is how to be Christian.

Fact is the ten commandments are only for 'the dead'. The law is their schoolmaster until they become spiritually aware. Then they are instructed to routinely transgress the law so as to serve spirit/love. This is be in Christ.

However if one does not accurately know who is 'the dead', how can one make an informed decision? One might vote for 'the dead' without intending to vote for 'the dead'.

'Spiritually dead people' (i.e people whose heart/spirits are waxed gross) are cunning. They posture superficially like 'spiritually alive people' in order to return unsuspecting authentic 'spiritually alive people' to 'spiritual dead-ness'.

'The dead'/spiritually dead people are those who see wisdom in, esteem, use and promote the ten commandments. They are not given by God to know the mysteries of God's kingdom of heaven. One of these mysteries is that there are no absolutes in morality.

Every thing here are literal revelations from the Holy KJV N.T.
 
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DavidK

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But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness, self-control.


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Danoh

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The safest measure of a man is to look at his most personal and closest fruits. All an authentic Christian person need, in order to support Trump, is the very clear and obvious truth in the compliment which Clinton payed to Trump (about his children) . . . and she ought to know.

Matthew: 7 King James Version (KJV)
16 Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?
17 Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit.


There is absolutely no other system for judgment in Christianity. There is no absolute morality for Christians.

Romans: 14 King James Version (KJV)
14 I know, and am persuaded by the Lord Jesus, that there is nothing unclean of itself: but to him that esteemeth any thing to be unclean, to him it is unclean.

Clearly Trump has a very exemplary family life with children (or fruits) from many marriages. It is impossible for a bad person to have a good family life and bring forth good children. Trump's family is an expression that he is capable of love and expressing love.

This is the Christian position.

You want a proven loving person (in actions not words) to be your leader . . . this is the number one requirement . . actually the only requirement.

How a man lives with and treat his children (his most intimate fruits) is a live indication of how he is capable of living with and treating you.

What a mess of incompetence on your part.

Most people, whether everyday honest citizens or crime lords and everyone else in between treat their children decently.

Because people tend to see their own children as an extension of themselves.

This does not show whether or not they will be as wonderful with others...duh-uh.

But, like some others on here, you have often proven that you...live in your own..."what reality means to me within my own little vacuum..."

Get...a clue.
 

Gurucam

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In Christianity a person is judged by the children he/she brings forth.

In Christianity a person is judged by the children he/she brings forth.

The verse says:

Matthew: 7 King James Version (KJV)
16 Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?
17 Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit.


Do not be confused. In the above you are told that Christian judgement is based on the fruits that one brings forth. The primary fruits that humans bring forth are their children.

Humans can bringing forth either children of the flesh, like Ishmael or children of God, like Issac:

Galatians: 4 King James Version (KJV)
22 For it is written, that Abraham had two sons, the one by a bondmaid, the other by a freewoman.
23 But he who was of the bondwoman was born after the flesh; but he of the freewoman was by promise.

Romans: 9 KJV N.T.
7 Neither, because they are the seed of Abraham, are they all children: but, In Isaac shall thy seed be called.
8 That is, They which are the children of the flesh, these are not the children of God: but the children of the promise are counted for the seed.


Only children of promise, like Isaac, are children of God. All others, like Ishmael are children of the flesh.

Given the above, the following (2000 year old) revelation from the Holy KJV N.T. confirms in total and literal clarity how one can stop bringing forth 'children of the flesh' (like Ishmael) and start bringing forth only 'children of God' (like Issac). This happens only when one throw out and transgress the 'thou shall not covet' commandment so as to serve in the newness of spirit/love:

Romans: 7 KJV N.T.
4 Wherefore, my brethren, ye also are become dead to the law by the body of Christ; that ye should be married to another, even to him who is raised from the dead, that we should bring forth fruit unto God.
5 For when we were in the flesh, the motions of sins, which were by the law, did work in our members to bring forth fruit unto death.
6 But now we are delivered from the law, that being dead wherein we were held; that we should serve in newness of spirit, and not in the oldness of the letter.
7 What shall we say then? Is the law sin? God forbid. Nay, I had not known sin, but by the law: for I had not known lust, except the law had said, Thou shalt not covet.
10 And the commandment, which was ordained to life, I found to be unto death.


The above revelation from the Holy KJV N.T. is pointedly on marriage and the fruits of marriage, which are children. It speaks of fruits onto death who are children of the flesh, like Ishmael and fruits onto God, who are children of God, like Isaac.

The above revelation from the Holy KJV N.T. says: When you are locked into obedience to the 'thou shall not covet' commandments you bring forth only children of the flesh, like Ishmael.

The above revelation from the Holy KJV N.T. instructs, newly converted people (newly spiritually aware people) as follows: ignore and transgress the 'thou shall not covet' commandment and find new partners so as to procreate out of spirit/love, so that you will stop bringing forth children of the flesh, like Ishmael and you will start bringing forth only children of God, like Issac.

You ought to be very interested in the above because children of the flesh, like Ishmael, and their parents will not inherit God's kingdom of heaven together with children of God and their parents:

Galatians: 4 KJV N.T.
30 Nevertheless what saith the scripture? Cast out the bondwoman and her son (Ishmael): for the son of the bondwoman (Ishmael) shall not be heir with the son of the freewoman (Isaac).


Under the natural and spontaneous Grace of ruling Christ consciousness the U.S.A. and the rest of the world is currently going through the above cleansing and separation . . . so as to fully establish God's kingdom of heaven on the surface of earth.

The question is: Did you procreate under obedience to the ten commandments or did you ignore and transgress the ten commandments so as to procreate only under obedience to spirit/love?
 
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Catholic Crusader

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If Hillary continues to lose the next debate, the New York Times will produce a witness to say that Trump killed Jimmy Hoffa and groped his wife.
 

Gurucam

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If Hillary continues to lose the next debate, the New York Times will produce a witness to say that Trump killed Jimmy Hoffa and groped his wife.

Are you a Trump supporter . . . bless your heart. You do know that you are opposing the Papal agenda.

All the Old ruling status quo (including the pope & co.) are supporting a one world religion and one world government that never changes and always have all the power (like Vatican city and Brussels). For them, Presidents and Prime Ministers and their governments are simply 'window dressing'. This is the 'Old' (as in the Old Testament). In the U.S.A. this agenda is represented and promoted by Clinton.

The Brexit result was a very serious 'slap on their collective faces' of the above Old people. Their dismissal is well on the way. They are the Old who have 'died' but are refusing to lie down.

Trump is the New (as in the New Testament). The New is the recently dawned Age of Enlightenment in Christ. In this New Age, all the power is vested in the will of individuals in tandem with the true will of the total population. There will be no 'semi' or 'demi' gods.

The transformation, though inevitable will not necessary be quick or smooth. All the old status quo especially in the U.S.A. (including the media and media people) are Old Testament. They will fight against the new ruling Christ consciousness that will inevitable take way their power and cushy jobs. They too are the Old that are dead. They will perish if they do not get on board the New reality.

There will be serious displacement and chaos in the U.S.A. if they do not voluntarily (through voting in the general elections) make this transformation from the old guard as represented by Clinton to the New guard as represented by Trump.
 
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MarcATL

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Trump's spontaneous rise to power will surprise even him. I suspect that Trump's consequential popularity is surprising him and many other Old/traditional world leaders even now.

Trump entry into politics was a test of a perceived change in world consciousness. As a politician, Trump is unorthodox. His unexpected and unprecedented rise confirms that there is a serious underlying change in world consciousness that has displaced the Old.

Trump's spontaneous rise is powered by newly strengthened 'not seen' (i.e. none physical) force of Christ consciousness. Trump is able to function in this New Christian system. Hence his rise. Clinton is not able to function in this New Christian system. She is stuck in the Old. In fact, Clinton is the Old who 'died but is refusing to lie down'.

Trump is an instrument of change. He is not there for his own agenda. However he may not be aware of this fact. In fact, in the Christian order, no one will be about one's own agendas.

Seems that Trump's success as a businessman can be credited to his capacity to take his 'ego self' out his decision making and act directly on intuition. Intuitions (deep off the cuff 'real time' knowing and responses) are so much more informed and honest than intellectualizing (premeditated responses). Trump's 'unchecked utterances' to the public is a testimony to this conclusion. This is also a Christian quality and actualization.

Now, election results will be Brexit like. It will go against all traditional expectations and predictions. Old/tradition people and traditional ways are now totally foreign on earth. However Old/tradition people may not yet be awakened to this fact. Most will perish and be 'out-a-here' without awakening.

Traditional people (including traditional leaders) are the Old who died (a while back) to gave way to the New. It will take a little longer for them to realize that theirs is the now dead way and they are now the walking and talking dead on earth.

A New Age in Christ is at hand, on earth. The world's dominating reality has changed from Old Testament to New Testament. A very Beautiful/Heavenly Age has dawned on the surface of earth. The Old Satanic is being dissolved.

Brace for it.

Get on board with the changed time, for your own relevance and survival, on earth. Be without fear. Fear is the absence of God. Embrace change, it is the only thing that is constant.
LOL!

This thread will be hilarious after November 8th.
. . . even Jesus did not like everyone. He seem to like only His disciples:

Matthew: 8 King James Version (KJV)
22 But Jesus said unto him (a disciple), Follow me; and let the dead bury their dead.

It is critically important for Christians to know who Jesus like and do not like and why. And then be guided accordingly.

'The dead' is a definition for someone whose heart or spirit is 'waxed gross' (i.e. covered over). This to be dead to (or unaware of) one's spiritual body. Humans have two bodies both of which can 'die'.

1 Corinthians: 15 KJV N.T.
44 It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body.


For Jesus and the saints, 'the dead' means 'the spiritually dead'. Jesus and the saints, do not refer to death of one's physical body, as 'the dead'. They call a person whose physical body is dead: 'sleeping'. You have to know Jesus' language. That is, if you are interested in being Christian.

The above confirms who are 'the dead who are left to bury their dead' and not follow Jesus. The following adds further clarity:
.

Matthew: 13 KJV N.T.
10 And the disciples came, and said unto him, Why speakest thou unto them in parables?
11 He answered and said unto them, Because it is given unto you to know the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven, but to them it is not given.
12 For whosoever hath, to him shall be given, and he shall have more abundance: but whosoever hath not, from him shall be taken away even that he hath.
15 For this people's heart is waxed gross, and their ears are dull of hearing, and their eyes they have closed; lest at any time they should see with their eyes and hear with their ears, and should understand with their heart, and should be converted, and I should heal them.


Jesus instructed his disciple to simply leave the dead to their own devises.

'The dead' are people whose hearts/spirits are waxed gross and therefore not given by God to know/get the mysteries of God's kingdom of heaven.

When one cease having a heart/spirit that is waxed gross (covered over) he or she becomes aware of his or her own heart/spirit. This to be converted, only then can Jesus heal one.

Christians are converted people who were then healed by Jesus. They are the chosen few who actually know who are described as 'the dead'. 'The dead' cannot and do not bring forth good fruits, like Trump did, (i.e. according to Clinton).

For authentic Christians, the fact that Trump brought forth good fruits makes him totally fit to be President. The fact that Clinton endorse Trump on this basic Christian ground, should now leave absolutely no doubt in the minds of Christians, about supporting Trump.

You would not want to vote for one of 'the dead'. Their hearts/spirits are waxed gross and they are not given to know the mysteries of God's kingdom of heaven. This means that they cannot even desire to create a heavenly life for their citizens.

'The dead' cannot serve in the newness of spirit/love. They cannot be N.T. people. They have to remain O.T. people. You should be aware that, the Holy KJV N.T. instructs newly converted people to throw out and transgress, the ten commandments so as to serve in the newness of spirit. This is how to be Christian.

Fact is the ten commandments are only for 'the dead'. The law is their schoolmaster until they become spiritually aware. Then they are instructed to routinely transgress the law so as to serve spirit/love. This is be in Christ.

However if one does not accurately know who is 'the dead', how can one make an informed decision? One might vote for 'the dead' without intending to vote for 'the dead'.

'Spiritually dead people' (i.e people whose heart/spirits are waxed gross) are cunning. They posture superficially like 'spiritually alive people' in order to return unsuspecting authentic 'spiritually alive people' to 'spiritual dead-ness'.

'The dead'/spiritually dead people are those who see wisdom in, esteem, use and promote the ten commandments. They are not given by God to know the mysteries of God's kingdom of heaven. One of these mysteries is that there are no absolutes in morality.

Every thing here are literal revelations from the Holy KJV N.T.


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MarcATL

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What a mess of incompetence on your part.

Most people, whether everyday honest citizens or crime lords and everyone else in between treat their children decently.

Because people tend to see their own children as an extension of themselves.

This does not show whether or not they will be as wonderful with others...duh-uh.

But, like some others on here, you have often proven that you...live in your own..."what reality means to me within my own little vacuum..."

Get...a clue.
Thank you.

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Gurucam

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LOL!

This thread will be hilarious after November 8th.

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Why do you feel that November 8th is the end of anything. The great majority of U.S.A. citizens are opposed to the Old status quo as represented by Clinton & Co. Even if they win government, they cannot govern, unless they can successfully and cunningly institute dictatorial rule, on their unsuspecting populace. And that can last only a very short time.

The grown in quantum of people against the O.T. establishment will continue to grow exponentially.

A win for Clinton seems to be a serious curse for the U.S.A..

All countries have become ungovernable under the Old system. Now all the Old guards are totally irrelevant. The Old guard (including traditional News anchors etc.) are all Old Testament people. They have been rendered obsolete by the newly empowered Christ consciousness that is ruling on earth. They are simply 'under actualized' people who were falsely and foolishly elevated under the Old system.

They are like 'hogs in heaven'. They settle for crumbs and they foolishly believe that they are some kind of 'it'. They are now stuck in the rot of the Old ways. Their mind set is too strong. Most of them will perish with out making the necessary transformation to be relevance in this New Age of Enlightenment in Christ. This relates to all person in leaderships role under the Old system.

This includes (but not limited to) most News anchors. Current news anchors cannot save you. They are burying you with the proper-gander of those who feed them and keep them in material luxury. Their leaders are the Old people and their Old systems who and which have died (and are refusing to lie down). Most News anchors are going down with their bosses/leader/teachers/rulers.

In fact most people who prospered through the use of their intellects (physical discernment) and not their intuitions (spirit and Spirit discernment) are totally irrelevant now.

They are 'Old' people (i.e. mammoth/man discern-ers). They are children of the flesh.

The current Age belong to New people 'in Christ'. New people in Christ are intuits (i.e. spirit and Spirit discern-ers). They are the children of God.

The little that these 'Old' people (News anchors and all traditional operatives) have gained (and which they foolishly believe to be plenty) will be taken from them and they will have nothing:

Matthews: 13 KJV N.T.
10 And the disciples came, and said unto him, Why speakest thou unto them in parables?
11 He answered and said unto them, Because it is given unto you to know the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven, but to them it is not given.
12 For whosoever hath, to him shall be given, and he shall have more abundance: but whosoever hath not, from him shall be taken away even that he hath.
15 For this people's heart is waxed gross, and their ears are dull of hearing, and their eyes they have closed; lest at any time they should see with their eyes and hear with their ears, and should understand with their heart, and should be converted, and I should heal them.


A person whose heart/spirit is waxed gross is an intellectual/physical operative, not an intuit/spirit and Spirit operative. This is the difference between the Old outdated human and the New relevant human, on the surface of earth. The first is out of here and the latter are in.

'The guards are changing' naturally and spontaneously. Jesus is having the last laugh.

This transformation is occurring naturally and spontaneously through the natural and 'not seen' force of Christ consciousness that is very strong on the surface of earth.

A change through the electoral process will be most beneficial to the U.S.A. at this time. This is a change of the Old actualization and Old system as represented by Clinton to a New actualization and New system, as represented by Trump.

The time to wake-up to truth is now, before too late is your cry.
 
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Catholic Crusader

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Why do you feel that November 8th is the end of anything. The great majority of U.S.A. citizens are opposed to the Old status quo as represented by Clinton & Co. Even if they win government, they cannot govern, unless they can successfully institute dictatorial policies.

Don't listen to MarcATL, he's an idiot.
 

Catholic Crusader

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The narcissist believes the vast majority love him but there are a few enemies out to get him. Hence why he says if he loses the election is rigged. To the extent that Trump is a narcissist (and there are many signs that he is), he is not surprised one bit.

Well, WikiLeaks has proven the election IS rigged. The mainstream media is in cahoots with Team Hillary, coordinating the propaganda they feed to low information voters under the disguise of "news". So Trump is right, and you're a fool.
 

Gurucam

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If one is not actualized intuitively in spirit and Spirit discernment, one will be forced out of the surface of earth.

The Old is intellectual discernment. This is the basis of all formal ways of knowing for the past thousands of years. This is not the Christians way to knowledge. This is the 'letter' way which killeth.

The New is Intuitive discernment. This is the spirit and Spirit way that giveth life and makes one a Christian and therefore relevant to the New Age of Enlightenment in Christ.

The sad fact is the Old (O.T., letter way) system killeth the actualization of intuitive spirit and Spirit actualization (which giveth life eternal and entry to heaven).

It is not likely that intellectuals (O.T. people) will recover in time to be relevant to the new intuitive, spirit and Spirit, Christian, N.T., Kingdom of God, Age that is now ruling the surface of earth.

They will probably be all dispatched to a sad and bad other place, that totally befits their physically/intellectually based ideas and conditioning.

The above is your gift in the fullness of time. This is the last days of the Old:

Seems that those who now know these fact can help themselves. They (by adapting the above) could be the last who are chosen first, among the few who make it.
 
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Gurucam

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Well, WikiLeaks has proven the election IS rigged. The mainstream media is in cahoots with Team Hillary, coordinating the propaganda they feed to low information voters under the disguise of "news". So Trump is right, and you're a fool.

Everything (with respect to leadership, at all levels) have always been rigged very cunningly, not only in the U.S.A. (but especially in the U.S.A.).

The agenda is to control duly elected leader through money/material gratification. Like the pieces of silver that was offer to and accepted by Judas. This is the essential fabric of most past leaders. They could not be past leader if they did not 'tow the line' of the 'behind the scene' O.T. leaders and rulers. They did not make the choice of Jesus. Trump seems different:

Matthews: 4 KJV N.T.
8 Again, the devil taketh him up into an exceeding high mountain, and sheweth him all the kingdoms of the world, and the glory of them;
9 And saith unto him, All these things will I give thee, if thou wilt fall down and worship me.
10 Then saith Jesus unto him, Get thee hence, Satan: for it is written, Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and him only shalt thou serve.


No doubt you have grasp that 'the devil'/'Satan' who took Jesus on the mountain top and tempted him, by offering Him a power position over the masses on their terms, were the Old Testament ruling class of 2000 odd years ago (the Jews).

Thereafter, our leaders (duly elected and others) in all areas were and are, tempted in the same way as Jesus was, by the Jews. However they did not resist like Jesus. They all fell for the temptation.

Then these duly elected leaders cunningly promote and impose the agendas of an always in power, 'behind the scene' ruling power driven, O.T. class. They are the Satanic class. Satan being someone who is driven by his/her man side and not his or her spirit side.

The U.S.A. citizens are too sure that they are 'smart'. This make them especially cast (conditioned) for deception by O.T. leaders and governors.

Fact is the age of power and power rules (whether they are behind the scenes or in front) is over. We are in the Age of intuitive, spirit and spirit discern-ers.

The age of Enlightenment in Christ is at hand and ruling. The Old is simply falling and being dismantled every where.

Some people will stay on earth to inherit the surface of earth, in God's kingdom of heaven that is now ruling on earth. Other will be dispatched to the depths of earth, in hell, with Satan to continue their old deluded and retrogressive ways. It is all fair and appropriately perfect.

There (in hell, inside the depths of earth, with Satan) these O.T. people will continue their deceptions and their Old Testament type wars, among themselves for all eternity. That is their promise land according to what they sow on earth in their current life.

What a man sowest in his current life, that shall he reap, after judgment, in his eternal life, for all eternity.

The question is, where do you want to be?

A vote for Trump is an endorsement for change and the New Age that is anchored on being intuitively alive in Christ.

A vote for Clinton is an endorsement of the Old and 'dead' (who are simply 'refusing to lie down').

Do you know that the 'walking dead' are Old Testament people? The past rulers of this world.

In small democratic countries, like mine after a duly contested election, each Prime minister takes a mandated visit to Washington U.S.A. to find out the limits of his/her powers, according to 'the behind the scene leaders' of the world.

Then our Prime Ministers return and play 'big-shots' according to those prescribed parameter. It is the same with duly elected leaders in the U.S.A.. They are all in the same system which give multi-level power to false elite classes.

This simply justify our leaders to subvert their people's power and steel their money, any which way. These leaders are powerless to have or hold any moral position of their own, as leaders.

Trump is posturing differently. And he has the now ruling, ultimate power of Christ Consciousness behind him. People like him will inevitably succeed to rule the surface of earth, in God's kingdom of heaven, which is now at hand.

. . . I am suspecting that many Old leaders who are 'imprisoned against their will, in the Old system', will be silently happy for the transformation.
 
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