toldailytopic: Same-sex marriage: for it, or against it?

[Rusha]

if homosexuals can marry, then brothers can marry because there is no reason to exclude them
and
if brothers can marry, why not brother and sister?

because that union can produce a child

So should women around the age of 40 be disallowed to marry because they are at a higher risk of producing a baby with Down's Syndrome?

How about people whose families come from Africa, South or Central America, etc.? They are at a higher risk for Sickle Cell Anemia.

 

[Town Heretic]

what principle?

E-Q-U-A-L-I-T-Y under/before the law.

you have not established one that can be applied consistently

Untrue. I've done precisely that and noted the standard for overcoming it.

my principle is the child

No. That's not a principle; it's a person. And no one is arguing against protecting a child here.

 

[chrysostom]

E-Q-U-A-L-I-T-Y under/before the law.

.

brothers are just as equal as two guys
and
a brother and sister are just as equal as brothers
so
how is that equality working for you?

 

[Silent Hunter]

brothers are just as equal as two guys
and
a brother and sister are just as equal as brothers
so
how is that equality working for you?

. . . :doh: . . .

. . . chrys . . . if you can't understand this post . . . I'm sure TH and I can find a three-year-old who will be more than happy to explain it to you.

 

[chrysostom]

. . . :doh: . . .

. . . chrys . . . if you can't understand this post . . . I'm sure TH and I can find a three-year-old who will be more than happy to explain it to you.

so you should be able to

 

[Silent Hunter]

so you should be able to

. . . on second thought . . . no . . .

. . . to expose you to a three-year-old would be . . . child abuse.

 

[chrysostom]

. . . on second thought . . . no . . .

. . . to expose you to a three-year-old would be . . . child abuse.

I am sure town heretic enjoys having you as a cheer leader but it would be more interesting if you could explain just one of his posts

 

[Rusha]

I am sure town heretic enjoys having you as a cheer leader but it would be more interesting if you could explain just one of his posts

What part of equality under the law did you not understand?

 

[chrysostom]

What part of equality under the law did you not understand?

the part where a brother and sister would not be as equal as two brothers

 

[Rusha]

the part where a brother and sister would not be as equal as two brothers

You are the only person questioning whether a brother or sister should be allowed to marry ... which makes no sense whatsoever. Being that your standard is that individuals must be able and willing to make babies, you have no reason to object the union of a bro and his sis.

 

[chrysostom]

You are the only person questioning whether a brother or sister should be allowed to marry ... which makes no sense whatsoever. Being that your standard is that individuals must be able and willing to make babies, you have no reason to object the union of a bro and his sis.

I can't get anyone to agree or disagree to either one

do you know why?

 

[Rusha]

BTW, in reference to the scare tactic argument of "if we allow homosexuals to marry that means individuals would soon demand to marry their pets, their relatives and engage in polygamous unions" ...

Perhaps you can tell us why in those Scandinavian countries where gay marriage has been legal for many years, no such thing has happened.

 

[Silent Hunter]

I am sure town heretic enjoys having you as a cheer leader . . .

. . . it's mutual admiration . . . and an Alabama thing you wouldn't understand.

. . . but it would be more interesting if you could explain just one of his posts

. . . how old are you?

. . . what is your education?

. . . are you married?

. . . do you have children?

. . . I need to know in order to adjust my presentation to your level.

 

[Rusha]

I can't get anyone to agree or disagree to either one

do you know why?

Because it's a stupid question.

 

[chrysostom]

. . . it's mutual admiration . . . and an Alabama thing you wouldn't understand.

. . . how old are you and what is your education?

. . . are you married?

. . . do you have children?

. . . I need to know in order to adjust my presentation to your level.

you said that a three year old could explain it to me
so
why can't you?

 

[Rusha]

you said that a three year old could explain it to me
so
why can't you?

It would have to do with your mentality being less of that than a three year old ...

 

[Silent Hunter]

you said that a three year old could explain it to me
so
why can't you?

. . . I can . . .

. . . but . . .

. . . I need to know . . .

. . . how old are you?

. . . what is your education?

. . . are you married?

. . . and . . .

. . . do you have children?

 

[Town Heretic]

brothers are just as equal as two guys
and
a brother and sister are just as equal as brothers
so
how is that equality working for you?

It's working fine given I've stated that one can advance an overwhelming/compelling societal interest. I even specified what that was in the case of incest between brother and sister and suggested a potential argument in the COMPLETELY HYPOTHETICAL illustration you offered to attempt to taint with emotion what you could not address and counter with reason.

To remind you of this point, made earlier:

It's a case by case evaluation relative to a compelling state interest in interfering in two adults' right to contract...In the case of incest there's one regarding genetics and health issues. I'd think there might be a compelling argument against your (so far as I know) purely hypothetical coupling relating to mental health ramifications/inference, but I don't know of any studies...or anyone promoting the practice.​

:e4e:

 

[Charity]

wow!!

Id like to see the same sex male marriage last till death do them part... no cheating or lies...smile would that be possible?

 

[chrysostom]

It's working fine given I've stated that one can advance an overwhelming/compelling societal interest.

I really like that one

a man and woman producing a child
or
two guys living together

which one has an overwhelming/compelling societal interest?