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Neither one fixes anything, they only mask "the problem".
toldailytopic: Is it immoral to smoke Marijuana?
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What does it cure?
lain: (no, Granite, boredom isn't a disease.)student_ad_x
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Nothing........ neither does Vicodin (nor Percocet) cure the source of chronic pain; nor atavan cure the source of anxiety/depression....... the quality of living life is improved though.What does it cure?
Nothing........ neither does Vicodin (nor Percocet) cure the source of chronic pain; nor atavan cure the source of anxiety/depression....... only the quality of living life is improved.
I would have accepted: ham.
lain::wave2: stux, I was mostly aiming that at jeff's habit of starting cryptic threads about curatives that never quite make it into the posts.
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...... that's what happens when one is "out of the loop"You are a good person. I believe you choose wisely for yourself.
The rollercoaster is scary at times. Blessings, pat
Nothing........ neither does Vicodin (nor Percocet) cure the source of chronic pain; nor atavan cure the source of anxiety/depression....... the quality of living life is improved though.
Palliative will do when a cure is not imminent.
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Yes, it is immoral...
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-the drugs have blood all over it, drug users are paying for murder
that's immoral
-Using any illegal substance contributes to the tax burden against it
taking money from people to support a habit is immoral
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-Using any illegal substance is paying for the deaths of those caught in trafficking (the traffickers, by-standers, law-enforcement).
-the drugs have blood all over it, drug users are paying for murder
that's immoral
-Using any illegal substance contributes to the tax burden against it
taking money from people to support a habit is immoral
The prohibition of alcohol in the 1920s was a massive economic boon for organized crime. All of the societal problems that prohibition was supposed to solve (drunkenness, crime, etc) actually became worse under prohibition. Things got so bad that the people reversed themselves and re-legalized alcohol in 1933.
You'd think we'd apply the same lesson to marijuana--especially since marijuana is, by virtually any standard of measure, less harmful than alcohol--but hypocrites never learn.
It has been said that the definition of insanity is repeating the same action over and over again while expecting a different result. By that definition, America's drug policy is insane. We have not learned to apply the lessons of prohibition to the drug war.
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About 20%, so minor if applicable.
Where'd ya get those seeds?
Lon
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Murder is nobody's business? You sound defensive for some reason...
Aim high?
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Aim high?
Well, this is a thread about pot.:idunno:
Hi Lon, there was a time when I agreed with the position you currently hold, but I changed my mind upon a closer examination of the truth. What's really immoral here is that marijuana is illegal in the first place. We learned our lesson with alcohol, but refuse to do the same with marijuana--all of which is very strange considering that alcohol is a far more dangerous substance than marijuana. Far more violence, disease and death is caused every year by alcohol abuse than is cause by marijuana--even when you factor in the violence of dealers/gangs, caused by marijuana's illegality. According to the US Department of Justice, alcohol is a factor in about 40% of violent crimes. Alcohol is known to fuel aggression and violence among users. By contrast, marijuana relaxes the user. Any crime or violence that can currently be connected to marijuana stems exclusively from the fact that it is illegal. Make it legal, and put its production and distribution into the hands of law-abiding citizens where it belongs, and those problems will go away.
The case for legalizing marijuana is even more blatant when marijuana is compared with tobacco. According to the US Environmental Protection Agency, tobacco smoke is so toxic that:
A large contributor to tobacco's ill health effects stems from the fact that tobacco is radioactive. Every time someone smokes a cigarette, they are giving themselves a dose of radiation. Over time, this radiation builds up, and it cannot be removed. The end result for many cigarette smokers is cancer, among other diseases. By contrast, mj does not have these radioactive properties. Although it is still unhealthy to inhale smoke of any kind, mj smoking does not cause diseases such as cancer that are typical among tobacco users:
Study Finds No Cancer-Marijuana Connection
So there you have it. Marijuana is non-toxic (impossible to induce fatality by overdose), does not spur aggressive or violent behavior in its users, does not cause cancer or other deadly diseases, and is largely non-addictive (in most users).
The bottom line is that it is not immoral to smoke marijuana, but it is immoral to make marijuana illegal. Such laws are unjust and hypocritical to say the least, and should be repealed immediately.
The case for legalizing marijuana is even more blatant when marijuana is compared with tobacco. According to the US Environmental Protection Agency, tobacco smoke is so toxic that:
"Cigarettes kill more Americans than alcohol, car accidents, suicide, AIDS, homicide, and illegal drugs combined."
A large contributor to tobacco's ill health effects stems from the fact that tobacco is radioactive. Every time someone smokes a cigarette, they are giving themselves a dose of radiation. Over time, this radiation builds up, and it cannot be removed. The end result for many cigarette smokers is cancer, among other diseases. By contrast, mj does not have these radioactive properties. Although it is still unhealthy to inhale smoke of any kind, mj smoking does not cause diseases such as cancer that are typical among tobacco users:
Study Finds No Cancer-Marijuana Connection
So there you have it. Marijuana is non-toxic (impossible to induce fatality by overdose), does not spur aggressive or violent behavior in its users, does not cause cancer or other deadly diseases, and is largely non-addictive (in most users).
The bottom line is that it is not immoral to smoke marijuana, but it is immoral to make marijuana illegal. Such laws are unjust and hypocritical to say the least, and should be repealed immediately.
Lon
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It would be a shared guilt, not a buck to pass. It still costs all of us $1000 a year in taxes so we are all paying for it whether we like it or not.
We as a nation are trying to trim down substance abuse, not add to it.
Is there moderation with marijuana use? I'm not sure. Seems like the only reason for it is the intoxication. Not quite the same with alcohol in moderation, like with dinner, or a glass at night.
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