I agree.
toldailytopic: Is belief in the trinity necessary for salvation?
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I agree.
Cruciform
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Your affirmation of the ancient pseudo-christian heresy of Ecclesial Deism is noted. :doh:
What in the world is "RevelationS"?
Gaudium de veritate,
Cruciform
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The triune nature is compound unity, not solitary, not polytheism. You are confusing nature/substance/essence with personal distinctions. Father/Son/Spirit share the ONE same nature and are not 3 beings, not 3 gods, not 3 natures, not 3 spirits. Mormonism is tritheism, while Christianity is triunity. You are thinking in terms of human vs divine persons, finite vs infinite, reason vs revelation.
Arianism and Sabellianism were later attacks on the triune view in church history. The formalization and fine-tuning of what was already held by the early church occurred in response to these NEW heretical attacks.
Cruciform
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No it isn't. Like everyone else, you derive your theological ideas and beliefs from numerous religious sources (i.e., traditions) outside of yourself. Your beliefs are no more "yours" than are Catholics' beliefs theirs.
Gaudium de veritate,
Cruciform
+T+
oatmeal
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You deny the clear teachings of scripture.
It is no challenge to handle your scorn.
It is you that denies the clear testimony of scripture.
That you will answer to God for.
Romans 14:12
oatmeal
Well that was serious :banned: mistake.
So now Sum1sGruj is idle.
So now Sum1sGruj is idle.
oatmeal
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John 10:28-36
"And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand.
My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father's hand.
I and my Father are one.
Then the Jews took up stones again to stone him.
Jesus answered them, Many good works have I shewed you from my Father; for which of those works do ye stone me?
The Jews answered him, saying, For a good work we stone thee not; but for blasphemy; and because that thou, being a man, makest thyself God.
Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are gods?
If he called them gods, unto whom the word of God came, and the scripture cannot be broken;
Say ye of him, whom the Father hath sanctified, and sent into the world, Thou blasphemest; because I said, I am the Son of God?"
gods are those by whom the word of God came. Like Moses, Paul, Jeremiah, Ezekiel, Obadiah, Peter, John and of course Jesus Christ.
They are all gods, but not one of them is "the God"
oatmeal
eameece
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They are all divine, and so are we. To be divine, is to be one with God. No separate-appearing individual is God. And yet, our deepest identity is God, and we and "The Father" are one. They stoned Jesus for saying that, and he replied, in effect, so are you, so why do you stone me? That is the only way to read that verse that makes any sense.
And I salute you for talking some sense to the trinitarians.
Jesus is described as Son of God, not three in one god. You guys are making up you own doctrines.
Yikes! You're back meshak??
Absolutely not! Believe in Jesus as Son of God and Savior of the world, and accepting Him as your Lord, meaning you should obey everything what He commands.
"For God so loved the world He gave His only begotten Son that whoever believes in Him shall not perish but have eternal life." This verse is the core of Christianity, not additional trinity that trin churches made up..
Tine churches dont honor Jesus' as their Lord by being disobedient to Him by approving killing their enemy against Jesus' word. Being obedient is much more important than calling Him God yet, disobey His commandment. Hypocrisy is not of Jesus.
I have the truth to spread for my Lord, Jesus, friend.
I see you haven't changed. Still ranting and raving like the crazy person you are...
Lon
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Er, here is your opportunity:
John 4:22
Matthew 23:2-3
Oops!!!
Do you ever wonder why there are so few of you?
Do you ever wonder why most of us think you are --> :flamer:
Do you stop and wonder if your grades in school have anything to do with your disabilities?
Do you ever wonder why most of those who hold to your position are called 'cults?'
Do you ever wonder why there are only a few of you who are right though not one of you got 4.0's?
Probably not, I'm just asking.
Try reading those very short verses again in conjuction with these question, I'm just sayin'....
Lon
Well-known member
Hey everybody, let's let the E students teach the class! They have something new that we never thought of before!
:think: (do I want to be an A student or and E or F student....)
You call the truth ranting? And you call me crazy? I have been fair to you and you should be too.
Just because I get locked up does not mean Jesus' word change, friend.
Drake Shelton
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elohiym does not understand the Nicene Creed
elohiym does not understand the Nicene Creed
Wrong. the Trinity has three minds. God (speaking in the concrete) is the Father. One Mind. The other two persons are termed Theos/God in the abstract, meaning that they share a generic nature with the father.
elohiym does not understand the Nicene Creed
Wrong. the Trinity has three minds. God (speaking in the concrete) is the Father. One Mind. The other two persons are termed Theos/God in the abstract, meaning that they share a generic nature with the father.
Drake Shelton
New member
I'm a Nicene Creed Trinitarian. He is not ignorant. Those passages are not in the originals.