toldailytopic: God, Satan, or man. Who is the cause of on sin?

[Nathon Detroit]

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[elohiym]

toldailytopic: God, Satan, or man. Who is the cause of on sin?

God.

Isaiah 45:7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.

 

[chrysostom]

sin is caused by our free will

 

[kmoney]

sin is caused by our free will

I would say free will creates the possibility for sin.

 

[chrysostom]

I would say free will creates the possibility for sin.

this is true but the question is what is the cause of sin

 

[kmoney]

this is true but the question is what is the cause of sin

I still wouldn't agree that free will causes sin.

 

[elohiym]

sin is caused by our free will

The carnal mind has no free will, because if it did, it could be subject to the law of God.

Romans 8:7 Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.

 

[Universalist]

God is the cause of it all.

The very same Bible that so many love to quote and use only as a bat tells them that, yet they continue to search the scriptures continuing to overlook the very message of the Scriptures.

One of the central messages is that God is in control of ALL things, and he(GOD)subjected the world to vanity and disobedience so that he might have mercy on it. He (GOD) created ALL things.

When this revelation is understood, a lot of other things can begin to be understood.

He created Good and Evil, God did it all!!

 

[chrysostom]

I still wouldn't agree that free will causes sin.

okay

man causes sin with his free will

 

[chrysostom]

God is the cause of it all.

this is true
but
we and not God are responsible for it

God created our free will which made it possible for us to sin

 

[Universalist]

this is true
but
we and not God are responsible for it

God created our free will which made it possible for us to sin

Either God created everything, or he created nothing. He created us to sin, that was the plan from the beginning.

 

[surrender]

Either God created everything, or he created nothing. He created us to sin, that was the plan from the beginning.

God didn't create everything that exists. He didn't create love.

 

[Universalist]

God didn't create everything that exists. He didn't create love.

Ok, I say he did. Actually, he(GOD) said he did.

God is Love.

 

[surrender]

Ok, I say he did. Actually, he(GOD) said he did.

God is Love.

Are you saying God created Himself and created love?

 

[chrysostom]

Either God created everything, or he created nothing. He created us to sin, that was the plan from the beginning.

sin is not a creation
and
the question is who is responsible for it

 

[Universalist]

Are you saying God created Himself and created love?

He is the creator of all things.

 

[Universalist]

sin is not a creation
and
the question is who is responsible for it

God is responsible for it.

 

[surrender]

He is the creator of all things.

Is God the Creator of Himself? If so, do you have anything in Scripture which would support this other than saying that God is the Creator of all things?

edit to add: If God created Himself, how did He come into existence in the first place in order to create Himself?

 

[Universalist]

So many people are so afraid to 'think' not to mention 'say' that God is responsible for ALL things. I am not sure why when the very Bible they claim to know so well tells them that over, over, over and over again.

Understanding this leads you out of fear and to walk in Love.

No wonder people can't truly love because they walk in fear of everything concerning God and his creation.

Religion has done a GREAT job at brainwashing, but God even has his hands in that.

Religion is ruled and based entirely on fear, it all ultimately serves his purposes one way or another though.

Knowing God is in control has released me to true rest, freedom, and love in Christ.

A powerful thing!

God blinds us so that he might eventually open our eyes.

 

[Universalist]

Is God the Creator of Himself? If so, do you have anything in Scripture which would support this other than saying that God is the Creator of all things?

edit to add: If God created Himself, how did He come into existence in the first place in order to create Himself?

Who do you think created God?