toldailytopic: Do you believe mankind is causing global warming?

[Stripe]

it is you who is stupid.

:mock: Barbarian.

 

[The Barbarian]

Gueni writes:

Okay, I take it back. You don't think others are stupid, it is you who are stupid.

Well, you know how dumb barbarians are...

At the end, you guys always run out of excuses and call names. Do you really think it's a good reflection on your beliefs?

 

[The Barbarian]

"When referencing storm surge height, it is important to clarify the usage, as well as the reference point."

Looks like you are unable to use the common reference points used to determine sea level, which are all on land.

I used the levee height as the reference point. So did the storm. That's what caused all the problems. Reality again. Get accustomed to it.

 

[Frank Ernest]

I hope you climate skeptic tea drinkers continue to enjoy the extreme weather you voted for. You voted for it, you scream for it, you GOT IT.

Called my local TV meteorologist. He was unaware that the weather was up for a vote. He always thought Mother Nature did it. Silly him, huh? :jolly:

I think you need more and more and more of it, until you boil like the frog in the pot. You are condemning us all to this, you Republican guys in the American heartland. It's good that you are getting the worst of it. Again, you voted for it! And most of you are proud of how you voted!

:darwinsm: Well, here, it's called summertime in the Ohio Valley. Happens most every year. Plus there is a seafood restaurant in Louisville that serves frog's legs. For the second part, yes, I am proud of how I voted.

 

[Frank Ernest]

I used the levee height as the reference point. So did the storm. That's what caused all the problems. Reality again. Get accustomed to it.

:darwinsm: :Commie: used the word "reality." Never fails to amuse. :rotfl:

 

[Stripe]

:Commie: has severe problems talking about anything with any humility. It isn't good for him. :nono:

 

[Alate_One]

Called my local TV meteorologist. He was unaware that the weather was up for a vote. He always thought Mother Nature did it. Silly him, huh? :jolly:

You really are an idiot. Can't tell the difference between climate and weather. Global warming isn't the only effect humans activity can have on climate and weather.

:darwinsm: Well, here, it's called summertime in the Ohio Valley. Happens most every year. Plus there is a seafood restaurant in Louisville that serves frog's legs. For the second part, yes, I am proud of how I voted.

No, this is unusual. But you're too stupid to realize that apparently.

 

[The Barbarian]

Called my local TV meteorologist. He was unaware that the weather was up for a vote.

Me too. It always amuses me when deniers play that "look how many" (lawyers, doctors, engineers, etc.) doubt global warming."

The usual scientist's response is, "look, only a tiny fraction of the world's climatologists doubt it."

And the denier response is always "hey, when was it a matter of popularity? :chuckle:

And this time, man is messing with Mother Nature.

 

[The Barbarian]

(Neitherfranknorearnest calls Barbarian a communist again)
It's how we know you guys know you've lost the argument; you get angry and call names.

At then end, all you have is dishonesty and spite.

 

[The Barbarian]

According to research published by a University of Cincinnati faculty member, native plants in southwestern Ohio are flowering significantly earlier, a finding he attributes, at least in part, to global warming.

Conover's results, published in the December issue of Ecological Restoration, reveal that for species that were observed flowering during two distinct multi-year surveys, a significant number of wild plants (39 percent) bloomed earlier from 2005 to 2008 than when he recorded the same species' blooming times from 1992 to 1996.

Oh Noes! :Commie: daisies! :shocked:

Maybe you can get Michelle Bachmann to start a congressional investigation of Marxism in wild flowers, frank.

 

[genuineoriginal]

You voted for this weather. You would rather waste all the energy you want, and keep the fossil fuel profits rolling in for the "free enterprise" corporations you protect with your Republican votes against "socialism." We could have done a lot to convert away from fossil fuel burning these last 40 years, and even in the last few years when global warming has hit the ceiling for the first time ever. We could have turned it around fast, and then things would have been better. But no, we are doing nothing, thanks to you right wingers. And you folks in the south and midwest who vote republican are already getting hit the hardest, and it's going to get much much worse. Keep whipping out those slogans, and live with the results! You voted for it, you deserve it!!

You have no clue what you are talking about.
You don't know what my voting record is.
The Democrats want to remove wealth from the people by giving it to the Government. The Republicans want to remove wealth from the people by giving it to the Corporations. The Corporations have bought all the Democrats and Republicans in Congress, so the Democrats are really giving the money to the Corporations that own the Government.

I am against you being manipulated by "green" advertisements since the entire reason behind the bait and switch of "green" technologies is to remove wealth from the people and give it to the Corporations.

You need to follow the money and see who you are making rich by protesting against cheap energy.

:loser:

 

[genuineoriginal]

I used the levee height as the reference point. So did the storm. That's what caused all the problems. Reality again. Get accustomed to it.

Barbarian observes:
Nope. What it says is that incremental changes in non-linear systems can have huge effects. A change in four-ten thousands in the sea devastated New Orleans.

So, you are claiming that the waters rose .0004 above the levee height and devastated New Orleans.
Like I said, you seem to be the one lacking the ability to think through your arguments (or to put it simply, you are the stupid one).

 

[genuineoriginal]

(Neitherfranknorearnest calls Barbarian a communist again)
It's how we know you guys know you've lost the argument; you get angry and call names.

At then end, all you have is dishonesty and spite.

Actually, they are just kicking you when you are down.
(Which means they know you lost the argument).

 

[The Barbarian]

So, you are claiming that the waters rose .0004 above the levee height and devastated New Orleans.

Actually, the waters of the Gulf raised to 1.0004X the normal and that devastated New Orleans. Tiny changes in huge things can have huge consequences.

Like I said, you seem to be the one lacking the ability to think through your arguments (or to put it simply, you are the stupid one).

Yes, we know you're upset and calling names. It's how we know you know you lost the argument. Learn about the subject and you won't feel the need to do that to yourself.

 

[Stripe]

:rotfl:

:mock: Barbie.

 

[Stripe]

So, you are claiming that the waters rose .0004

Actually, the waters of the Gulf raised to 1.0004X the normal and that devastated New Orleans.

This is a clear example of how very disinterested Barbie is in honest debate. He'll be contrary with any tiny detail (in this case a difference in presentation of the exact same fact) in place of advancing the discussion.

Now, if Barbie has his way, we are going to spend innumerable posts debating whether there is a difference between "the waters rose .0004" and "the Gulf raised to 1.0004X the normal". With a little grace there is no difference, but Barbie needs to be contrary to whatever is said.

Much easier to mock the idiot and not get bogged down in the mire.

:mock: Barbie.

 

[GuySmiley]

Where is there carbon trading in the US? As far as I'm aware it exists only as an idea.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chicago_Climate_Exchange

 

[genuineoriginal]

This is a clear example of how very disinterested Barbie is in honest debate. He'll be contrary with any tiny detail (in this case a difference in presentation of the exact same fact) in place of advancing the discussion.

Now, if Barbie has his way, we are going to spend innumerable posts debating whether there is a difference between "the waters rose .0004" and "the Gulf raised to 1.0004X the normal". With a little grace there is no difference, but Barbie needs to be contrary to whatever is said.

Much easier to mock the idiot and not get bogged down in the mire.

:mock: Barbie.

It is worse than that. His point is that the surface of the water must be measured from the lowest point in a body of water. By that reasoning, sea level on the west coast of the United States is 36,200 ft., while sea level on the east coast of the United States is 28,231 ft., and the sea level at New Orleans is only 5,299 ft.

His argument is so ridiculous that there is nothing left to do but :mock: Barbarian.

 

[Alate_One]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chicago_Climate_Exchange

The effective final CFI position was reached in November 2010 when the carbon credit price per metric ton of CO2 was between 10 and 5 US Cents, down from its highest value of 750 US Cents in May 2008. Trading reached zero monthly volume in February 2010 and remained at zero for the next 9 months when the decision to close the exchange was announced.

So it existed for a few years, had very little trade volume and then ceased to exist, hardly the compelling interest that would drive the climate change debate.

 

[Stripe]

His argument is so ridiculous that there is nothing left to do but :mock: Barbarian.

With pleasure!

:mock: The Barbarian.