The True Gospel of Jesus Christ and the False Gospel of John Calvin

[Ask Mr. Religion]

Salvation has been provided for all by the doing and the dying of Jesus. God has done all that he can do for the salvation of fallen man, but there is one thing that he will not do and that is make someone believe on his Son Jesus Christ.

The unbeliever will never seek God's righteousness:

Jeremiah 17:9 The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it?

Mark 7:21 For from within, out of the heart of men, proceed evil thoughts, adulteries, fornications, murders,
Mark 7:22 Thefts, covetousness, wickedness, deceit, lasciviousness, an evil eye, blasphemy, pride, foolishness:
Mark 7:23 All these evil things come from within, and defile the man.

John 3:19 And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil.

Romans 3:10 As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one:
Romans 3:11 There is none that understandeth, there is none that seeketh after God.
Romans 3:12 They are all gone out of the way, they are together become unprofitable; there is none that doeth good, no, not one.

Romans 5:6 For when we were yet without strength, in due time Christ died for the ungodly.

Romans 6:16 Know ye not, that to whom ye yield yourselves servants to obey, his servants ye are to whom ye obey; whether of sin unto death, or of obedience unto righteousness?
Romans 6:17 But God be thanked, that ye were the servants of sin, but ye have obeyed from the heart that form of doctrine which was delivered you.
Romans 6:18 Being then made free from sin, ye became the servants of righteousness.
Romans 6:19 I speak after the manner of men because of the infirmity of your flesh: for as ye have yielded your members servants to uncleanness and to iniquity unto iniquity; even so now yield your members servants to righteousness unto holiness.
Romans 6:20 For when ye were the servants of sin, ye were free from righteousness.

Ephesians 2:1 And you hath he quickened, who were dead in trespasses and sins;

Ephesians 2:3 Among whom also we all had our conversation in times past in the lusts of our flesh, fulfilling the desires of the flesh and of the mind; and were by nature the children of wrath, even as others.

1 Corinthians 2:14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.


God must act, Robert, to replace the heart of stone of the lost person. If He did not act, no one would seek after Him. You call this action of God "forcing" in your denial of the total inability of the lost to choose wisely. I call this mercy beyond measure that grants the person so changed, faith.

AMR

 

[dialm]

The unbeliever will never seek God's righteousness:

Jeremiah 17:9 The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it?

Mark 7:21 For from within, out of the heart of men, proceed evil thoughts, adulteries, fornications, murders,
Mark 7:22 Thefts, covetousness, wickedness, deceit, lasciviousness, an evil eye, blasphemy, pride, foolishness:
Mark 7:23 All these evil things come from within, and defile the man.

John 3:19 And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil.

Romans 3:10 As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one:
Romans 3:11 There is none that understandeth, there is none that seeketh after God.
Romans 3:12 They are all gone out of the way, they are together become unprofitable; there is none that doeth good, no, not one.

Romans 5:6 For when we were yet without strength, in due time Christ died for the ungodly.

Romans 6:16 Know ye not, that to whom ye yield yourselves servants to obey, his servants ye are to whom ye obey; whether of sin unto death, or of obedience unto righteousness?
Romans 6:17 But God be thanked, that ye were the servants of sin, but ye have obeyed from the heart that form of doctrine which was delivered you.
Romans 6:18 Being then made free from sin, ye became the servants of righteousness.
Romans 6:19 I speak after the manner of men because of the infirmity of your flesh: for as ye have yielded your members servants to uncleanness and to iniquity unto iniquity; even so now yield your members servants to righteousness unto holiness.
Romans 6:20 For when ye were the servants of sin, ye were free from righteousness.

Ephesians 2:1 And you hath he quickened, who were dead in trespasses and sins;

Ephesians 2:3 Among whom also we all had our conversation in times past in the lusts of our flesh, fulfilling the desires of the flesh and of the mind; and were by nature the children of wrath, even as others.


1 Corinthians 2:14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.


God must act, Robert, to replace the heart of stone of the lost person. If He did not act, no one would seek after Him. You call this action of God "forcing" in your denial of the total inability of the lost to choose wisely. I call this mercy beyond measure that grants the person so changed faith.

AMR

And so you continue to offer the olive branch to a worm.

He says that he can hold the truth in error. And he also says that you AMR cannot hold the truth in error. He says that you AMR are an unrighteousness sinner bound for hell because you think the way you do.

Actually they all are saying it. Most are just saying it behind your back. At least Pate says it to your face.

Here is what is going to happen AMR

the play is about you. Pate is not coming to us and we are not going to him. It is about you. You are going to give Pate up. Or you are going to get over there with him.

 

[Robert Pate]

The unbeliever will never seek God's righteousness:

Jeremiah 17:9 The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it?

Mark 7:21 For from within, out of the heart of men, proceed evil thoughts, adulteries, fornications, murders,
Mark 7:22 Thefts, covetousness, wickedness, deceit, lasciviousness, an evil eye, blasphemy, pride, foolishness:
Mark 7:23 All these evil things come from within, and defile the man.

John 3:19 And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil.

Romans 3:10 As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one:
Romans 3:11 There is none that understandeth, there is none that seeketh after God.
Romans 3:12 They are all gone out of the way, they are together become unprofitable; there is none that doeth good, no, not one.

Romans 5:6 For when we were yet without strength, in due time Christ died for the ungodly.

Romans 6:16 Know ye not, that to whom ye yield yourselves servants to obey, his servants ye are to whom ye obey; whether of sin unto death, or of obedience unto righteousness?
Romans 6:17 But God be thanked, that ye were the servants of sin, but ye have obeyed from the heart that form of doctrine which was delivered you.
Romans 6:18 Being then made free from sin, ye became the servants of righteousness.
Romans 6:19 I speak after the manner of men because of the infirmity of your flesh: for as ye have yielded your members servants to uncleanness and to iniquity unto iniquity; even so now yield your members servants to righteousness unto holiness.
Romans 6:20 For when ye were the servants of sin, ye were free from righteousness.

Ephesians 2:1 And you hath he quickened, who were dead in trespasses and sins;

Ephesians 2:3 Among whom also we all had our conversation in times past in the lusts of our flesh, fulfilling the desires of the flesh and of the mind; and were by nature the children of wrath, even as others.

1 Corinthians 2:14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.


God must act, Robert, to replace the heart of stone of the lost person. If He did not act, no one would seek after Him. You call this action of God "forcing" in your denial of the total inability of the lost to choose wisely. I call this mercy beyond measure that grants the person so changed, faith.

AMR

MORE HOGWASH.

You want to believe that God is unjust.

You dishonor the Holy Spirit that has the power to convict men of their need for Christ, Romans 1:16.

On the day of Pentecost WHEN THE GOSPEL WAS PREACHED thousands heard and believed the Gospel and were converted to Christ, Acts 2:41 and Acts 4:4.

This is why Paul wrote..."So then faith comes by hearing and hearing by the word of God" (The Gospel) Romans 10:17.

 

[Grosnick Marowbe]

The best way to determine if a bill is a counterfiet is to hold it up alongside of the genuine real legitimate bill and compare the two. When this is done it becomes very obvious which is the true and which is the false.

The word "Gospel" means good news. If there is no good news in your Gospel then you probably have the wrong Gospel or a false Gospel.

The Gospel of Jesus Christ is good news for everyone that does nothing more than believe in Jesus Christ.

"He that believes on him (Jesus) is not condemned: but he that does not believe is condemned already" John 3:18.

There is no good news in John Calvin's Gospel. In John Calvin's Gospel it does not matter whether or not you believe in Jesus. If you have NOT been predestinated to be saved by a declaration of God you are eternally lost. Predestination is John Calvins Gospel. There is a problem with that. The word "predestination" only appears in the Bible about four times. The word is not related to anyone that has been predestinated. There is no scripture anywhere in the bible about anyone being predestinated to heaven or to hell.

In the Gospel of Jesus Christ God's great love for fallen man is revealed. "God so loves the world (humanity) that he gives his only begotten Son, that WHOSOEVER (everyone) that believes in him (Jesus) should not perish, but have everlasting life" John 3:16.

In the Gospel of Jesus Christ salvation is offered to all who do nothing more than believe in Jesus. In the false Gospel of John Calvin only "Some Special Persons" (Cannons of Dort) are predestinated to eternal life. The rest are condemned to hell for no reason other than they were not one of the lucky ones. It is not possible to have saving faith in a God that would do such a thing as this. The false God of John Calvin is unjust, unmerciful, unrighteous and is a murderous tyrant.

In the Gospel of Jesus Christ God clothes himself in human flesh and becomes one with us, but not one of us, "The word was made flesh and dwelt among us" John John 1:14. Jesus comes into the world to do for us that which we cannot do for ourselves. In our name and on our behalf he offers to God the Father a life of perfect obedience to his Holy Law. It was the life of Jesus that was lived for our justification, Romans 3:26.

That was not enough. Something had to be done about our sins. Because Jesus was without sin he was able to atone for our sins and not our sins only, but also for the sins of the whole world, 1 John 2:2. Because of the doing and the dying of Jesus he was able to reconcile the whole world unto God. "God was in Christ reconciling the world unto himself" 2 Corinthians 5:19. Here is the "Good News" of the Gospel of Jesus Christ. God now sees ALL THINGS in his Son Jesus Christ, Colossians 1:20. As far as God is concerned sin, death and the devil have been destroyed, Colossians 2:15.

It is because of what Christ has accomplished that now, "Whosoever (meaning all, anyone, everyone) that shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved" Romans 10:13. This is the true Gospel of Jesus Christ. No one has to be predestinated. No one has to do anything. salvation has been provided for all who do nothing more that trust in Jesus. "That he (Jesus) by the grace of God should taste death for everyone" Hebrews 2:9. Not for "Some Special Persons" but for everyone.

Excellent post

 

[Grosnick Marowbe]

You teach a false gospel, salvation by what man does. You deny that Christ's Death alone saved eternally those He died for !

No. It's you that teaches a disgusting false gospel.

 

[Grosnick Marowbe]

There's no power in a false gospel! You teach salvation by works, by what a person does !

Ephesians 2:8 states: "For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:

It's by God's Grace (Salvation) that we are saved. We receive that Grace (Salvation) through our faith.

Calvinists misinterpret that Scripture verse.

 

[Grosnick Marowbe]

Oh so you are a gambler huh?

I'm going to call your bluff. If you play cards like you teach Sunday school I should be able to clean house.

Step one: you don't even know what money is

What you just said, makes no sense? Rethink and return later.

 

[Grosnick Marowbe]

No that is not the Gospel.

The Gospel is about how Jesus justifies the ungodly, Romans 4:5 and reconciles us and the world unto God, 2 Corinthians 5:18, 19.

Have you been reconciled unto God?

Amen

 

[Grosnick Marowbe]

How can you speak on the Gospel when you deny Christ's Death saved them He died for, and you teach salvation by works !

You're a fanatical ultra hyper-Calvinist. A cultist by nature.

 

[Letsargue]

(( The word "Gospel" means "good news" )). If there is no good news in your Gospel then you probably have the wrong Gospel or a false Gospel.

The Gospel of Jesus Christ is good news for everyone that does nothing more than believe in Jesus Christ.

Someone said my Old Truck didn't need repair Yet.
Is that "Good News" / "A Gospel"???!!!!!!!!!

(( Stupid Idiots ))!!!!

(( Watch Your "B-A-D" -- N-E-W-S ))!!!!!!!!??????

PAUL, DAVID -- 122915

 

[Grosnick Marowbe]

Foolishness. You got to prove your opening statement. If I prove your opening false then your house is built on shifting sand. Just like your sweethearts, very shifty.

Yeah, and if you had wings you'd be a Canary?

 

[Grosnick Marowbe]

If that is what you believe, then you have never accepted the Gospel.

Pate speaks the truth. You and your ilk speak falsehood.

 

[Grosnick Marowbe]

What is the everlasting gospel according to the Bible?
Please post the verses that speak of the everlasting gospel.

Here is a search for those words that can get you started:

Biblegateway quicksearch everlasting gospel

Another other has spoken!

 

[Grosnick Marowbe]

Its not so much about what I think about Calvinism.

Its what the Bible has to say about it and other false doctrines.

Yep.

 

[Grosnick Marowbe]

The Calvinists sat at the very table and signed the Declaration. Those were my people.

Now tell us about yours.

Did you and your people go out to dinner afterwords?

 

[Grosnick Marowbe]

Right. "So what." That is a slimy way of talking about the founding fathers.

They signed in the pursuit of happiness. The very thing that you think should be compared to some phony fiat currency.

Now tell us which of the signers of the Declaration are your people, your founding fathers.

The founding fathers of Calvinism were part of a false doctrine conspiracy out of the pit of Hell.

 

[Grosnick Marowbe]

But the money ain't. It ain't everlasting. And it don't bring happiness. And it ain't even real. None of it is real.

"Your money perishes with you."

What does money have to do with this subject? Did you take the
wrong pill this morning? You're not making sense?

 

[Grosnick Marowbe]

Let's not make this too difficult. He is talking about happiness and real money.

Money was used to fight the Revolution.
The Revolution was fought in the pursuit of happiness.

So what did his people use their money for?

Hot dogs and popcorn?

 

[Grosnick Marowbe]

AMR,

Goliath's sword is very dangerous. Have always been told to be very careful when swinging it. David did certainly lop off the giant's head. And Saul did go after a few priests over it. (Just saying.)

Not making sense again, are ya?

 

[Grosnick Marowbe]

There comes a point where we must admit that we don't know. If we are going to give Pate credit then here it is.

We don't know everything. Robert Pate has uncovered our dirty little secret.

Calvinists believe that man is first regenerated then he receives faith.
This is another lie from the pit of Hell. Man first, hears the message
of his salvation then he places his faith or rejects the message and
therefore rejects Christ.