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John 3:16 King James Version (KJV)
16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
Why do the scriptures use the word "begotten". It is better translated "one of a kind" or "unique". It shows us that Jesus is the one from God who shares His very nature. Pretty simple huh!
popsthebuilder
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Matthew 1: 16. And Jacob begat Joseph the husband of Mary, of whom was born Jesus, who is called Christ.
Matthew 1: 20. But while he thought on these things, behold, the angel of the Lord appeared unto him in a dream, saying, Joseph, thou son of David, fear not to take unto thee Mary thy wife: for that which is conceived in her is of the Holy Ghost.
(That should be good enough for starters)
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popsthebuilder
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I'm glad you are paying attention. It is to bad you do not understand the word "born" though. Let me help.
Born is of the word bear which is synonymous with produce which is synonymous with create.
In short you are once again flattly wrong.
Stop making up your own definitions to words while you are at it.
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Is a baby created when it's born? :think:
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popsthebuilder
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No; you're not gonna stop making up your own definitions in order to avoid the truth and promote a lie. Figures.
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Right Divider
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You have been arguing against the trinity doctrine and the above it NOT part of the trinity doctrine.
You are extremely confused and beating your straw-man version of the trinity doctrine, which is NOT and has NEVER BEEN the trinity doctrine.
Irrelevant to the trinity doctrine.
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keypurr
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A baby is created in the mother's body.
Your either God or a creation. There is no in between..
Is the baby God JR?
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You apparently don't know the difference between conception and birth.
Does God have the ability to become a man and still remain God?
Apple7
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Still waiting for the word 'created' to come up in your lexicons when referencing Jesus...when can we expected it?
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Perhaps some time after he learns the difference between "your" and "you're".
popsthebuilder
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LL you need to do is look up the definition of created and see it is synonymous with born. I've done that for you already and presented numerous verses showing that Jesus was both concived and born.
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Created doesn't mean born. It means to bring something into existence.
A baby exists before it it born, for nine months, in fact.
No one denies that Jesus was born. Nor does anyone deny that Jesus was conceived in Mary's womb while she was still a virgin.
Conceived simply means to become pregnant.
popsthebuilder
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Let me help you...please pay close attention friend. I am not trying to sound condensending.Created doesn't mean born. It means to bring something into existence.
A baby exists before it it born, for nine months, in fact.
No one denies that Jesus was born. Nor does anyone deny that Jesus was conceived in Mary's womb while she was still a virgin.
Conceived simply means to become pregnant.
born
bôrn/
1.
past participle of*bear1*(sense 4).
adjective
adjective:*born
1.
existing as a result of birth.
(of a thing) brought into existence
give birth to (a child).
"she bore six daughters"
synonyms:give birth to,*bring forth,*deliver,*be delivered of,*have,*
produce,
*spawn,*birth;
informaldrop;*
literarybeget
"she bore a son"
(of a tree or plant) produce (fruit or flowers).
"a squash that bears fruit shaped like cucumbers"
synonyms
roduce,*yield,*give forth,*give,*grow,*provide,*supplypro·duce
verb
verb:*produce; 3rd person present:*produces; past tense:*produced; past participle:*produced; gerund or present participle:*producing
prəˈd
o͞os/synonyms:manufacture,*make,*construct,*build,*fabricate,*put together,*assemble,*turn out,*create;*More
synonyms:yield,*grow,*give,*supply,*provide,*furnish,*bear,*bring forth
create
or form (something) as part of a physical, biological, or chemical process.
make (something) using creative or mental skills.
synonyms:
create,*
originate
2.
cause (a particular result or situation) to happen or come into existence.
synonyms:give rise to,*bring about,*cause,*occasion,*generate,*engender,*lead to,*result in,*effect,*induce,*set off;*More
provoke,*precipitate,*breed,*spark off,*trigger;
literarybeget
cre·ate
krēˈāt/
verb
verb:*create; 3rd person present:*creates; past tense:*created; past participle:*created; gerund or present participle:*creating
bring (something) into existence.
synonyms
roduce,*generate,*bring into being,*make,*fabricate,*fashion,*build,*construct;*Moredesign,*devise,*originate,*frame,*develop,*shape,*form,*forge
establish,*found,*initiate,*institute,*constitute,*inaugurate,*launch,*set up,*form,*organize,*develop
cause (something) to happen as a result of one's actions.
synonyms:bring about,*give rise to,*lead to,*result in,*cause,*breed,*generate,*engender,*produce,*make for,*promote,*foster,*sow the seeds of,*contribute to
antonyms:destroy
(I hope you can see now that something being created is indeed synonymous with something being born.) If not I can give more expanation.
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Apple7
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Let me help you...please pay close attention friend. I am not trying to sound condensending.
born
bôrn/
1.
past participle of*bear1*(sense 4).
adjective
adjective:*born
1.
existing as a result of birth.
(of a thing) brought into existence
give birth to (a child).
"she bore six daughters"
synonyms:give birth to,*bring forth,*deliver,*be delivered of,*have,*
produce,
*spawn,*birth;
informaldrop;*
literarybeget
"she bore a son"
(of a tree or plant) produce (fruit or flowers).
"a squash that bears fruit shaped like cucumbers"
synonyms
pro·duce
verb
verb:*produce; 3rd person present:*produces; past tense:*produced; past participle:*produced; gerund or present participle:*producing
prəˈd
synonyms:manufacture,*make,*construct,*build,*fabricate,*put together,*assemble,*turn out,*create;*More
synonyms:yield,*grow,*give,*supply,*provide,*furnish,*bear,*bring forth
create
or form (something) as part of a physical, biological, or chemical process.
make (something) using creative or mental skills.
synonyms:
create,*
originate
2.
cause (a particular result or situation) to happen or come into existence.
synonyms:give rise to,*bring about,*cause,*occasion,*generate,*engender,*lead to,*result in,*effect,*induce,*set off;*More
provoke,*precipitate,*breed,*spark off,*trigger;
literarybeget
cre·ate
krēˈāt/
verb
verb:*create; 3rd person present:*creates; past tense:*created; past participle:*created; gerund or present participle:*creating
bring (something) into existence.
synonyms
design,*devise,*originate,*frame,*develop,*shape,*form,*forge
establish,*found,*initiate,*institute,*constitute,*inaugurate,*launch,*set up,*form,*organize,*develop
cause (something) to happen as a result of one's actions.
synonyms:bring about,*give rise to,*lead to,*result in,*cause,*breed,*generate,*engender,*produce,*make for,*promote,*foster,*sow the seeds of,*contribute to
antonyms:destroy
(I hope you can see now that something being created is indeed synonymous with something being born.) If not I can give more expanation.
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Not in Hebrew.
Not in Greek.
Not even in your dreams.
Keep denying the word.
:up:
popsthebuilder
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As if born has a different meaning in Greek or Hebrew.....what a joke.....a sad joke.
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popsthebuilder
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As gt would say; " insults are no defence for the truth".
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