God's Truth
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There are not four separate.
...but Jesus said that anyone who obeys him is his MOTHER, SISTER, BROTHER.
So the relationship is not some limited relationship as you are saying.
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There are not four separate.
...but Jesus said that anyone who obeys him is his MOTHER, SISTER, BROTHER.
So the relationship is not some limited relationship as you are saying.
Right Divider
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It there some quaditry doctrine that you're arguing against now?
Yep... He's describing a RELATIONSHIP among PERSONS.
Apple and oranges.
Your FALLACIOUS arguments never cease to amaze!
God's Truth
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If the Holy Spirit speaks to you, and is Jesus, then are they not the exact same---the Holy Spirit and Jesus?
Then later you read the Bible while you are trying to DEFEND the TRINITY DOCTRINE, as I once did, because I KNEW Jesus was God; but could no longer defend the trinity doctrine because they say Jesus is not the Holy Spirit and that Jesus is separate and different than the Father. How then can the FATHER also be living in me if I was saved by Jesus Christ, have Jesus Christ living inside me---and as the scriptures say, ALSO HAVING THE FATHER IN ME---how is it now that Jesus himself saved me, yet I also have the Father in me if they are not the exact same?
Then later you read the Bible while you are trying to DEFEND the TRINITY DOCTRINE, as I once did, because I KNEW Jesus was God; but could no longer defend the trinity doctrine because they say Jesus is not the Holy Spirit and that Jesus is separate and different than the Father. How then can the FATHER also be living in me if I was saved by Jesus Christ, have Jesus Christ living inside me---and as the scriptures say, ALSO HAVING THE FATHER IN ME---how is it now that Jesus himself saved me, yet I also have the Father in me if they are not the exact same?
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Right Divider
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Three figures.... :french:
Believe the Bible which says that they are PERSONS that have a RELATIONSHIP with each other.
One God, three persons.
Right Divider
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Wow... LYING AGAIN.... what a gal!
God's Truth
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You really want to make fun of me and what I said, when you give God one body with three disconnected heads?
Right Divider
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Just continual LIES from the great obeyer.
God's Truth
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You are the one not telling the truth.
God's Truth
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Looks like Right Divider wants to defend the trinity doctrine by calling me a liar.
When I ask trinitarians who said this or that in the Bible, they always change up the answer according to what will not nullify their doctrine.
For instance, I will say who was speaking in the Old Testament? Who was saying this? According to what protects their false doctrine they will say it is the Father speaking, oh that time it is the Son speaking, and then oh that is the Holy Spirit. However, it is not in the scriptures like that.
God is not three separate and one at the same time taking turns speaking.
When I ask trinitarians who said this or that in the Bible, they always change up the answer according to what will not nullify their doctrine.
For instance, I will say who was speaking in the Old Testament? Who was saying this? According to what protects their false doctrine they will say it is the Father speaking, oh that time it is the Son speaking, and then oh that is the Holy Spirit. However, it is not in the scriptures like that.
God is not three separate and one at the same time taking turns speaking.
Right Divider
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Misrepresenting my position is a STRAW-MAN and a LIE!
God's Truth
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That is what YOU are doing to me.
God's Truth
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I have to go, but I want to discuss something with you before I log off; so I hope you answer fast.
Tell me, who is speaking in the Old Testament.
Tell me, who is speaking in the Old Testament.
Right Divider
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No, it is not.
Right Divider
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Been there, done that.
God's Truth
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Please just answer again.
popsthebuilder
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This is coming from one who says that the three are the same and co-eternal bit yet not co-eternal.
You say I'm arguing against some other person.
But it is you who said in one breath that the three are not co-eternal, and then that they are in the next breath.
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Right Divider
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In their nature as God they are co-eternal. The Word was made flesh.
Quit trying to twist it.
popsthebuilder
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And by persons you don't man people but people who aren't human.... got it.....such clarity
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Maybe this will help the trinitarians understand what I am saying:
Instead of saying God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit---as trinitarians say...why not try to understand Father God, Father Son, and Father Holy Spirit?
Why does that make more sense? Because there is ONLY ONE GOD, and He IS the Father.
1 Corinthians 8:6 yet for us there is but one God, the Father, from whom all things came and for whom we live; and there is but one Lord, Jesus Christ, through whom all things came and through whom we live.
Ephesians 4:6 one God and Father of all, who is over all and through all and in all.
Instead of saying God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit---as trinitarians say...why not try to understand Father God, Father Son, and Father Holy Spirit?
Why does that make more sense? Because there is ONLY ONE GOD, and He IS the Father.
1 Corinthians 8:6 yet for us there is but one God, the Father, from whom all things came and for whom we live; and there is but one Lord, Jesus Christ, through whom all things came and through whom we live.
Ephesians 4:6 one God and Father of all, who is over all and through all and in all.