It depends on what one means by 'repent'. If it's the ridiculously rigid, guilt ridden idea of it- the way Catholicism tries to tie people down with, then :nono:
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It depends on what one means by 'repent'. If it's the ridiculously rigid, guilt ridden idea of it- the way Catholicism tries to tie people down with, then :nono:
Cruciform
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The fact that you're sticking with your Straw Man Fallacy is noted.
heir
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Answer my questions, please. And if you can quote them when responding it would be helpful. Thanks.
glorydaz
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To repent means to change one's mind. How will changing your mind about sin do anything?
Sin is a NON-issue, the Lord Jesus Christ took care of it. Don't shame Jesus.
Hebrews 6:4, 5 - Hebrews 6:6 KJV -
glorydaz
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I can understand why we would ask the Lord to forgive us....even though we know we've been forgiven. When I do something I know I shouldn't have done, I ask for forgiveness for my failure to do what He's told me to do so many times in the past. It's an acknowledgment that this is one of those things for which His forgiveness was required to begin with.
Krsto
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Then you did not understand what I wrote if you think "All you have done is elaborate upon what I have already said."
Krsto
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And being a sinner does not disqualify one from being acceptable to God. Being wicked does, however.
Even the wicked have been reconciled unto God, Colossians 1:21.
Of course you have to accept the reconciliation to be reconciled.
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I would consider that to be more of an apology than asking for forgiveness.
I know that many people fixate on 1 John 1:9 without understanding the context. It's not about constantly confessing each and every sins or "keeping short lists with God", etc. etc.
John was one of the twelve apostles for the twelve tribes of Israel and that much always be understood when reading what he wrote.
heir
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In Matthew, Mark, Luke and John they were baptized in the Jordan, "confessing their sins".
Mark 1:4 John did baptize in the wilderness, and preach the baptism of repentance for the remission of sins.
Mark 1:5 And there went out unto him all the land of Judaea, and they of Jerusalem, and were all baptized of him in the river of Jordan, confessing their sins.
"in that day" of 1 John 1:9 KJV they will "confess our sins" in the fountain of Zechariah 13:1 KJV!
Zechariah 13:1 In that day there shall be a fountain opened to the house of David and to the inhabitants of Jerusalem for sin and for uncleanness.
Mark 1:4 John did baptize in the wilderness, and preach the baptism of repentance for the remission of sins.
Mark 1:5 And there went out unto him all the land of Judaea, and they of Jerusalem, and were all baptized of him in the river of Jordan, confessing their sins.
"in that day" of 1 John 1:9 KJV they will "confess our sins" in the fountain of Zechariah 13:1 KJV!
Zechariah 13:1 In that day there shall be a fountain opened to the house of David and to the inhabitants of Jerusalem for sin and for uncleanness.
heir
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theophilus,
Here they are again.
heir
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churchianity
Krsto
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Yes, there is grace for the wicked, and supernatural power to assist in changing one's wicked ways ("repent for the kingdom is at hand"), but your theology presupposes that all men need to repent and be reconciled. God is not against good people. You can not find one thing that says he is.
Krsto
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Agreed. Evangelical theology (of which I was a prime promoter) says nobody is good enough. They then quote verses that don't address the issue like "all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God" and say, "See, nobody is good enough so all will be punished unless they have faith."
Crazy stuff.
And what gets me Robert Pate has issue with Calvinism yet he does the very same thing. Blind prognosticator.
Of course ALL MEN need to repent and be reconciled unto God, because ALL MEN are sinners, 1 Timothy 2:4.
You apparently didn't read the article completely.
There is only one law. It is written and spiritual.
From the 10 came all of the ordinances.
heir
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no thank you Colossians 2:8 KJV
Krsto
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Of course all men are sinners Robert. That doesn't mean they have been alienated from God or that God is against them. Did the kid who stole the cookie from the cookie jar sin? Of course. Is God against him? Certainly not. Will a just God condemn him? Absolutely not.