SaulToPaul 2
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ECT The "Sending" of Jesus to Israel
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SaulToPaul 2
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LA shut you down with that one faster than Fast Gun Fife can draw.
SaulToPaul 2
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What can you do with someone who is determined to shoe horn every prophecy into the first century?
Such thinking causes mental illness...(like we see with Rabbi Tetelestein)
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Yep.... and they make vague and sweeping generalizations based solely on their opinion that "everything was fulfilled in Jesus".
When their opinions conflict with the Bible, the Bible gets thrown out.
Interplanner
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How quaint of you to call fulfilled in Christ "vague" and "sweeping." Actually, there is nothing vague about the nations entering the people of God--unless you don't realize that Acts is a book about missionaries. Which could be the case.
But it is quite a disgrace to take all that Christ accomplished as expounded in places like Col 1, 2, Eph 1-3, Phil 2, Gal 3, Rom 3 and have juveniles like you call it vague and ethereal.
The Acts 15 quote especially is about THAT situation (the nations believing) and your fav theories can't accept it. No one there has any thought about X000 years in the future. They are talking about the reality in front of them.
Unlike you.
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How quaint that you use the word quaint.
More goofball talk--good work.
Acts is a book about the failure of Israel and the raising of another apostle.
There are many distinct transitions in the book of Acts that you cannot understand because your head is full of garbage.
Those things are not vague in the slightest. Your garbage is the problem.
Where did I say "ethereal"? More TRUTH problem for you. You just can't stop lying.
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SaulToPaul 2
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His many dusty commentaries hath driven him insane.
Interplanner
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I agree it has the failure of Israel, and raising another apostle, but that raising is part of the success of the new Israel which is both Jew and Gentile, Acts 13:26. The title of the book is the Acts of the Apostles, which was the mission of Christ. The title was not 'The Failure of Israel' and 'Another Apostle'; did you notice that?
Ethereal was another term for vague and sweeping. My summaries or conclusions are not vague but they are sweeping. You are such a tight pants that if the exact term is not there you have a fit and say I am a liar. That's your problem. Just like last week when you could not believe the person who said 'returning from Gentile nations' was 'coming out of graves' in Ezek ___. You decide to distrust even though such doctrines are taught here and there by people who are 2P2P on a regular basis, and why not, it matches their belief perfectly. Where real spiritual meaning is only found in the land of Israel!
Show me any way you can that Acts 15 is NOT about the inbound Gentile situation right there, that was the topic of the meeting. The topic of the meeting of Acts 15 was not the future kingdom of the state of Israel.
2P2P is fixed on the land promise like a pornographer is on porn. Everything is about that. It is never about Christ the Gospel.
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You're a very ethereal kind of guy.
Cornelius was NOT a heathen gentile (Cornelius is who Peter was talking about in Acts 15). Cornelius was a Genesis 12:1-3 type of gentile.
Acts 10:1-2 (AKJV/PCE)
(10:1) There was a certain man in Caesarea called Cornelius, a centurion of the band called the Italian [band], (10:2) [A] devout [man], and one that feared God with all his house, which gave much alms to the people, and prayed to God alway.
You're becoming more crude and frantic with every post. You keep telling more lies. You are a liar. Your commentaries have corrupted your mind.
SaulToPaul 2
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Indeed. And, we are not fixated on the land.
He is fixated on Israel not getting the land.
Interplanner
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Acts 15 can't possibly be only about Cornelius because the tons of others who believed. Nice try. There are whole parables about this--about the 'bad' son who says no to God but actually does what God wants. Nice try.
There is absolutely no reason for the NT to go back to interest in the land of Israel. anyone who thinks that way simply does not know what it is saying about the new covenant, nor about structures like old giving way to new, nor about eternal being before and after this temporal world, nor about shadow/copy giving way to the Reality that is Christ.
That's why every 2P2P response to these thoughts will be one single verse, and every one is supposed stop everything they are doing and thinking and shudder that that one verse has stopped everything. When in fact, it is called ignoring the whole context of the whole Bible and the age of the apostles.
No NT passage on the Gospel and on the incoming of the Gentiles ever hangs itself on the Gen 12 about the land. instead Gal 3:8 says it was not about the land, (or the land was a shadow or copy) and the final message is now here, which Abraham saw the whole time apart from the land.
There is absolutely no reason for the NT to go back to interest in the land of Israel. anyone who thinks that way simply does not know what it is saying about the new covenant, nor about structures like old giving way to new, nor about eternal being before and after this temporal world, nor about shadow/copy giving way to the Reality that is Christ.
That's why every 2P2P response to these thoughts will be one single verse, and every one is supposed stop everything they are doing and thinking and shudder that that one verse has stopped everything. When in fact, it is called ignoring the whole context of the whole Bible and the age of the apostles.
No NT passage on the Gospel and on the incoming of the Gentiles ever hangs itself on the Gen 12 about the land. instead Gal 3:8 says it was not about the land, (or the land was a shadow or copy) and the final message is now here, which Abraham saw the whole time apart from the land.
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Who said that it was ONLY about Cornelius. You are just such a pathological liar that you cannot think even a SINGLE intelligent thought.
Cornelius was a gentile that BLESSED Israel (as you were shown, but you're too stupid understand it).
If you're talking about the prodigal son; that is about Isreal.
Of course there is; God made a PROMISE. But you think that things like that do not matter.
Typical nonsense. Your indoctrination into falsehood has placed you against God.
Interplanner
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Cornelius was NOT a heathen gentile (Cornelius is who Peter was talking about in Acts 15). Cornelius was a Genesis 12:1-3 type of gentile.
Of course, you'll rewrite this now, to say you meant something else.
The law/Judaism did help some pagan people, to be sure. But not in the direction of 'sacred land.' It helped them the way Rom 2 said, and that is a prep for the Gospel. Because before people believe in justification from sins, they have to believe in sins.
A land promise is entirely irrelevant anymore.
There is no place in the NT where 'bless Israel' is the key to anything for the Gentiles. You must not have heard of Christ, who is to be praised, honored and blessed. See Gal 3, if you believe in reading it.
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You must have suffered some serious brain damage.
BOTH of those posts say the SAME THING, but you are so stupid that you can't even tell what anything says.
Genesis 12:1-3 (which you've apparently never read) says that those that BLESS Israel will be blessed. Cornelius BLESSED Israel per Acts 10.
Check yourself into a good mental institution, you need some serious help.
Only if your "god" is a liar who makes promises and then breaks them without warning.
You don't believe God or the scripture.