I have not been on TOL for years. I have not kept up with this thread. I don't plan to pick up on any previous conversations between individuals. I plan to write my ideas. Something new that will build to the topic of Resurrection to Life or Judgement. I always have to start with 'in the beginning' because what God did in the beginning affects everything afterward. I can offer scripture but that is time consuming; so, I will assume you can do a search for the Bible references for your self.
Gen. 1 God created male and female ...
1. Important point: You will see in Genesis 1 where God is forming unique realms for existence within himself.
2. Yet male female are only living spiritual beings not yet having any body. Where do they exist? Ans. Living WITHIN the realms God established.
3. Important point: God gives his first command to male and female in the beginning by telling them to reproduce and multiply. This becomes a process to happen over time.
4. Male and female are not yet manifested upon the ground/in the Garden.
Gen. 2
1. God formed mankind a body out of the elements called ground. To me ground is a general noun which simply includes a vast array of elements from which the earth was formed.
2. Important point: Mankind is attached to or must partake of those elements from the start due to his bodily association with them.
Gen. 3
1. Satan tempts Adam and Woman.
2. They rebel.
3. Immediate punishments are given to Satan, Woman and Adam.
4. Satan's position is changed to one lower than the cattle that roam the earth.
5. Important point: He is told he would now partake of the ground elements for the REST OF HIS LIFE. Hmmm ... does this mean the life of an angel end???
6. Woman, who already partakes of the ground elements due to her created body of such, is told that her pain and her child-birthing will increase.
7. Adam is told he will toil and will partake of the ground elements for the rest of his life.
Important point: Now, God has all three of them associated with or partaking of the elements of the ground. He then curses the ground!!!
For what reason? Ans. Because the curse upon the ground brought death into mankind's physical body. It was established as a process over time just like birthing is a process over time.
This is called the first death for humanity. Because of it the entire earth is wearing out like an old garment. Important point: Yet, the curse is now upon Satan because he was told to partake of it for the rest of his life.
Now, where does the original living spirit of mankind created in Gen. 1 go after its physical first death? Well, God created realms for the existence of things back in Genesis 1. In other places in scripture I've heard the mention of "barns for storing things." I believe the New Testament refers to such things by saying "The bosom of Abraham" and "the Pit" and a "place of heat thirst and torment."
Demons were terrified of being thrown into the Pit ,so they must know that is their destiny at some point.
I'm figuring mankind has had two places to consider for a time.
1. The bosom of Abraham
2. The place of torment
Yet, after Christ arose we are told he went to prepare a place for the saved to dwell until God is ready to end all things. It is mentioned in the NT in 2 Corinthians 5:1-3. There we are told we presently groan in this body of ground elements, but when we experience our first fleshly death we will THEN GO to a place where we will be clothed with a new house/tabernacle/bodily form. This is the place where the Saints ask, "How long must we wait?"
However, the lost spirits of mankind still go to the place of torment. I call it hell. There they wait.
Now around the time Christ returns and the rapture happens: A lot happens but at least believers are changed in the twinkling of an eye and they meet up with the Saints in the Sky. This crowd of Saints will rule under Christ as King for 1,000 years upon the earth along with regular people who survived that stage. They will continue to have children.
Now Satan is still not gone. He rules over all the condemned angels and humans. The demons may be thrown into that pit they feared until they are loosed for the final rebellion of men and angels.
Remember how Satan argued with an angel of the LORD over Moses's body? He felt he owned Moses body and spirit attached to it because Moses had committed such horrendous sins. Why did he think he had a right to Moses? Ans: He had been given the command from God to partake of the elements of the ground for the rest of his life. IOW, so goes the elements of the ground so goes the lost men and angels still attached to / partaking of IT.
After 1,000 years of reign on earth God will renew this cursed earth and make it suitable for his eternal kingdom and its citizens. The time for the second death has come.
Here are my conclusions: The false prophet, the beast, Satan and all that he has a right to possess will go into the Lake of Fire.
There are pastors who are adamant about their facing eternal suffering. I am not so sure about that yet and here is why. God has held off on ending everything because he has been growing a family and that was a process over time. He made death a process over time so Adam and Woman could keep reproducing children. Since Satan and mankind are going to face the same death - the second death, I think God has waited to end all things until he was ready to destroy the lives of created sentient beings like men and angels. IOW, the originals will no longer exist after the Lake of Fire.
What makes me think the second death is experienced by both men and angels? Ps 82:6,7 where God told Satan this at his trial: I have said, Ye are gods; and ALL of you are children of the most High. 7 but YOU [Satan] shall die LIKE MEN, and fall like one of the princes.
I'm predicting the second death for humanity and the first death for angels will be the finish for death and hell are thrown into the lake of fire and all who don't have the additional spiritual life Jesus has to offer will be gone.