The New Rep System Is A Joke

[annabenedetti]

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No, you can't post in some parts of TOL. So what? Even without threads created for the intended purpose of passing out reps to those who post within it is still possible to go about giving reps to everyone in that area in all the other threads within.

:chuckle: Thank you, Lighthouse.

 

[Angel4Truth]

No, I'm saying things that aren't popular with anyone who belongs to soots. But that's okay if I do, because we're all free to express an opinion, right?

Nothing you have said is a bother to me, because nothing has happened in a rep thread there that hasnt happened right on the open forums.

Im sure you have never repped anyone you liked just for the hell of it, just because you like them and want to make them smile, no not you. Right?

 

[annabenedetti]

Nothing you have said is a bother to me,

Oh, good.

 

[Angel4Truth]

name it

Cant, it was purged, as were many light frivolous threads recently, if im not mistaken you made it because of meshak whining about negs. It was a couple years back.

 

[chrysostom]

Cant, it was purged, as were many light frivolous threads recently, if im not mistaken you made it because of meshak whining about negs. It was a couple years back.

so you made an accusation that you can't back up

 

[Tambora]

Anna,

I do remember the screenshot of LH.
I also know that it did not show how many rep points each of LH's repped posts counted.

While the screenshot did show the title of threads that not all of us are privy to, it did not show any discrepancies in how much those reps counted. In fact it didn't show any counts at all.
None, nada, zip.

Bringing up that screenshot shows no indication whatsoever that the reps LH got were counted higher than other reps in another thread.
All it shows is that there is a forum somewhere that not all can see.
TOL has several groups where the posts made in that group setting are not visible to all. You are in one.

 

[rainee]

Greetings Anna and Pure,

I have no idea if any one gets worked up over negative thinking and words or not...
The rep system as rainee has said many times before and long ago is one of the few ways we have to wiggle around as a little society here on TOL. That means different things to different people. I used to say to Town and maybe even his loyal friends that it represented power, like money in the real world. The Secret Order of the Smack worried me only because it was secret and I like openness. Now lots of you turn off your social personal pages and it just makes me sad.

I know and you know the reps mean nothing. Now if we traded beads then we'd be talkin about some reason for jealousy, yeah? YEAH!

But when you see the reps you seem to be noting that your mind observes those like Tam have something you don't - as far as I can tell by your words, and it does seem your mind thinks that it may not be right or fair.

But guess what? Tam has put more into this place in quality time and effort and she prolly should be paid in money - or beads at least.
Town also contributes greatly.

Anna, where have you been? I've missed you. I think you should let Tam rep you since when she shows appreciation it is better than when I do by numbers!

But Pure are you not like me - just serving your own desires here? We are not pillars of the community or part of a support group at all, are we?

All right then. We are all prolly getting what we put in - in the long run.

I don't think anyone is getting 'worked up' over this. Honestly. We're just having a discussion about it, and we may disagree, as happens in any discussion about anything.

Like you, I use the rep thing to let people know that I appreciated their comments. And I like to do it off the thread because I don't want to encourage the "eco chamber" effect that occurs when people start congratulating each other on the threads. (That used to happen a lot in the past, on here.)

But I do think it's both pathetic and weird that some folks are so concerned with appearing popular that they'd go to all the trouble of rigging the rep system, and spending time repping each other about nothing, just to achieve that appearance.

But hey, if that's how they roll …

I don't think so either, that's a rhetorical tool to make it look like someone's speaking from emotion instead of reason. Implying that someone has to be jealous or envious simply because they don't have a problem pointing out the elephant in the room.

 

[Angel4Truth]

so you made an accusation that you can't back up

Are you kidding? Im pretty sure im not the only one who remembers it, or the many others that have existed made by others just to rep each other.

 

[chrysostom]

Cant, it was purged, as were many light frivolous threads recently, if im not mistaken you made it because of meshak whining about negs. It was a couple years back.

why would you make an accusation about something that happened years ago to back up your argument
but
you can't back up the accusation

how convenient is that?

 

[patrick jane]

That's one way of putting it.
Yep, that's what I'm asking --- Who else does not want a gold star (rep) from me?


I realize how stupid you are.
There is nothing stupid about asking if there are other folks besides Anna that request that I not give them any of my reps (gold stars). It is a request that I will try to oblige.
And there is not a darn thing wrong or stupid about it.

i want one someday - atrol:

 

[Lighthouse]

Well we're not talking about public threads now, are we?

Let's stick to the subject.

Irrelevant.

They are exactly the same thing as lighthouse explained to you, a thread where we rep each other. Period.

They are exactly the same thing as lighthouse explained to you, a thread where we rep each other. Period. Endlessly.

So?

:chuckle: Thank you, Lighthouse.

We're not doing anything in there that you can't do out here. Idiot.

 

[chrysostom]

Are you kidding? Im pretty sure im not the only one who remembers it, or the many others that have existed made by others just to rep each other.

well let's see who they are
and
can they name it

I am not kidding

you made an accusation that you cannot back up

 

[Angel4Truth]

why would you make an accusation about something that happened years ago to back up your argument
but
you can't back up the accusation

how convenient is that?

How is it an "accusation" to say that many threads have been made in the past in the open forum "and the rest" just to rep the person above you? Surely im not the only one who ever saw them.

 

[chrysostom]

Cant, it was purged, as were many light frivolous threads recently, if im not mistaken you made it because of meshak whining about negs. It was a couple years back.

so you made an accusation that you can't back up

 

[Lighthouse]

Cant, it was purged, as were many light frivolous threads recently, if im not mistaken you made it because of meshak whining about negs. It was a couple years back.

Use the Wayback machine.

How is it an "accusation" to say that many threads have been made in the past in the open forum "and the rest" just to rep the person above you? Surely im not the only one who ever saw them.

You're not.

 

[chrysostom]

How is it an "accusation" to say that many threads have been made in the past in the open forum "and the rest" just to rep the person above you? Surely im not the only one who ever saw them.

you accused me of starting a rep thread
but
you can't name it
but
you use it to support your argument
and
I am calling you on it

 

[Angel4Truth]

so you made an accusation that you can't back up

Ok Chrys, if you need people to not know you made a thread just for reps, over meshak- whatever. Give me one of your weird awards or something.

 

[Desert Reign]

Hello, i think you need reread my post. There have been threads made right in the open forum for reps, back when eeset was complaining about reps all the time, saying to rep the person above them.

They were NOT invisible and i know for a fact others here remember them.

Ask Chrys, he made one of them, i think town made one (or posted in it), sherman when she was called Inzl made one, etc..

PS I cant believe how bitter you have become, i havent been disingenuous about anything. You have been downright nasty to tambora for no reason.

For the record, I never participated in them (or at least not deliberately) because I want rep to reflect if my posts are of good quality. Also because at the time I wanted to increase my rep/post ratio and getting a few points each on a lot of posts put that down, not up. From the time I first considered the matter, my rep ratio went up from about 3.5 to 17. I needed this discipline because it has made me a better poster.
But it matters not to me that some people will want to get rep for other reasons or by other methods, nor would I say that they are using any underhand methods to do so. That is entirely their free choice. I only wish that people would recognise that if too many people give too much rep for too many posts, then rep no longer tells you anything of any value. And indeed it is already too late because the rep system has been distorted and there is no way that it reflects true reputation.

 

[chrysostom]

Use the Wayback machine.


You're not.

name it

 

[annabenedetti]

Anna,

I do remember the screenshot of LH.
I also know that it did not show how many rep points each of LH's repped posts counted.

While the screenshot did show the title of threads that not all of us are privy to, it did not show any discrepancies in how much those reps counted. In fact it didn't show any counts at all.
None, nada, zip.

Bringing up that screenshot shows no indication whatsoever that the reps LH got were counted higher than other reps in another thread.
All it shows is that there is a forum somewhere that not all can see.
TOL has several groups where the posts made in that group setting are not visible to all. You are in one.

Right. The Women's club. It's not the group that's the problem, Tam. Let's square that away right now. It doesn't bother me at all that there are groups to which I don't belong. Or that I can't see.

When my membership runs out next month, I won't be able to see the woodshed either. And that's okay, I'm not going to complain about that.

So it's not the group.




It's the rep system used by the group.

First though, Angel's accused me of being downright nasty to you in this thread, yet I haven't said anything to you along the likes of what she's already said to me, nor do I intend to. I've tried to keep the focus on what I'm focused on: an inequitable rep system that works behind the scenes to allow more opportunity for rep to that group than for the average poster.

Everyone who's had a problem with my bringing it up is - no surprise - a member of the group.

You guys are all going to continue on, I know that what I've said isn't going to make a bit of difference, but I said it because it's something that I have a strong opinion about.

I'd respect a lot more a system where access to rep was the same across the board, regardless of affiliation or ideology. Those who have more friends and ideological allies will end up with more rep as a natural outcome of those factors, and I think that's fine, but at least they got there using the same path as everyone else. The way it is now, I don't respect the system. That's just the way it is.