The "miracle" of evolution is a myth - part 1

[Right Divider]

It's actually mind boggling how you even conceived such.

What's actually mind boggling is that you think that an amoeba can turn into a man by accumulating mistakes.

 

[Arthur Brain]

What's actually mind boggling is that you think that an amoeba can turn into a man by accumulating mistakes.

That would indeed be mind boggling if that's what I actually thought. It isn't. By any stretch. Any more bizarre suppositions that you want to declare?

 

[ok doser]

... an amoeba can turn into a man by accumulating mistakes.

What, like bad life choices?

 

[Right Divider]

That would indeed be mind boggling if that's what I actually thought. It isn't. By any stretch. Any more bizarre suppositions that you want to declare?

That's the GTY ToE.
Random mutations that can create men from a single celled first ancestor.
If you have a better version of the "theory", please do let us know.

 

[Right Divider]

What, like bad life choices?

Bad jeans

 

[Arthur Brain]

That's the GTY ToE.
Random mutations that can create men from a single celled first ancestor.
If you have a better version of the "theory", please do let us know.

You can avail yourself by having a better understanding of it. It's not like you haven't been provided with enough aid as it is. Still, your call.

 

[Right Divider]

You can avail yourself by having a better understanding of it. It's not like you haven't been provided with enough aid as it is. Still, your call.

• I've studied the topic for many, many years. So your claim that I lack knowledge about it is false.
• The "theory" has many versions that are sometimes competing and contradictory in many ways. So don't expect me to know exactly which one you prefer.
• It's often a great irony when competing "evolutionary" proponents explain why the other's view of "evolution" is incorrect. The truth is that they are all right about the fact that others view of evolution is wrong!

 

[Derf]

Um, no. It doesn't, at all. You're incredibly ignorant on the matter in actual fact if you think that the ToE begins with such a notion...

It's actually mind boggling how you even conceived such.

Show me where there’s a place for God.

 

[JudgeRightly]

Arthur has been removed from this thread. Four pages and not once has he discussed evidence nor the thread topic, merely waffled on as if he had already disproven it.

 

[Alate_One]

Kinds are clearly much broader then species.
Species diverge from kinds.
We can easily see some kinds, like the cat kind or the dog kind.
But it is also clear that lion is not a tiger and Great Dane is not a chihuahua.
Would you like to argue that lions and tigers are not both a cat kind? Are they the same species?
Or that a Great Dane and a chihuahua are not a dog kind? Are they the same species?

Do you really think anyone in the Bible would have referred to a lion and a tiger as the same "kind"? There's plenty of discussion on the difference between sheep and goats in the Bible despite the fact they can occasionally produce offspring together. They're not the same kind.

 

[Alate_One]

From Alate_One:

When evolutionists see the world, they see it through "evolution colored glasses". They are so blinded by their own belief system, that all things must conform to that belief system. It's called confirmation bias and they have it big time.


Do they have any actual evidence that this "evolutionary story" is true? No, but they believe it anyway.

You didn't actually address my evidence. It's not that modern whales have legs, but ancient whales like Dorudon do. Full legs, femur, fibula, tibia and patella. Why would a whale have this?

 

[Right Divider]

Do you really think anyone in the Bible would have referred to a lion and a tiger as the same "kind"?

Anyone with eyes can see that they are both of the "cat" kind.

There's plenty of discussion on the difference between sheep and goats in the Bible despite the fact they can occasionally produce offspring together. They're not the same kind.

They also did not evolve from single celled life forms.

 

[Right Divider]

You didn't actually address my evidence. It's not that modern whales have legs, but ancient whales like Dorudon do. Full legs, femur, fibula, tibia and patella. Why would a whale have this?

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Perhaps it's mis-classified. Evolutionists make lots of mistakes because everything must be forced to prove "evolution".

 

[Alate_One]

Perhaps it's mis-classified. Evolutionists make lots of mistakes because everything must be forced to prove "evolution".

It's clearly an oceangoing animal with back legs. Explain. There's a modern cetacean skeleton behind/below it for comparison.

 

[Alate_One]

Anyone with eyes can see that they are both of the "cat" kind.

Meaning anyone with eyes can see they evolved from a common ancestor. Calling it a "cat kind" is just stating what you want to believe as truth. There's no support for what you're saying in the Bible. That anyone called any group of species as a "kind". Kind as used in the Bible isn't a technical term, it's a common reference to a type or species of animal. Species is a close modern analog or literally just saying a kind of animal. That's all it appears to mean in any context in the Bible. Making it into some kind of taxonomic designation is pure creationist post flood hyperevolutionary fantasy.

 

[Right Divider]

Meaning anyone with eyes can see they evolved from a common ancestor.

Once again, this is not a problem for the creation model. All animal life are descendants of the originally created kinds. They are not all descendants of a mythological "single common ancestor".

Calling it a "cat kind" is just stating what you want to believe as truth.

I'm making a logical deduction from observation.

There's no support for what you're saying in the Bible. That anyone called any group of species as a "kind". Kind as used in the Bible isn't a technical term, it's a common reference to a type or species of animal. Species is a close modern analog or literally just saying a kind of animal. That's all it appears to mean in any context in the Bible. Making it into some kind of taxonomic designation is pure creationist post flood hyperevolutionary fantasy.

 

[JudgeRightly]

You didn't actually address my evidence. It's not that modern whales have legs, but ancient whales like Dorudon do. Full legs, femur, fibula, tibia and patella. Why would a whale have this?

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RSR's List of Evidence Against Whale Evolution | KGOV.com

kgov.com

 

[marke]

I wouldn't expect you to classify AO's posts as anything other than 'evolutionist rhetoric' anyway RD. You're convinced that YEC is correct so it wouldn't matter what the evidence provided, it would never be enough to convince you anyway really. Thankfully, some have thrown away the shackles but unfortunately many are mired in it and will remain so.

Anyone who imagines life on earth began slowly from abiogenesis and then grew through evolution is duped by lies.

 

[marke]

RSR's List of Evidence Against Whale Evolution | KGOV.com

kgov.com

Darwin was a fiction science writer that rubes like Richard Dawkins and Phil Gingerich foolishly thought was preaching scientific truth.

 

[marke]

Your opinion of my opinions can be dismissed accordingly.

You've been shown the evidence time and again and simply ignore it in favour of your belief system.

Endless repetitions of fiction science propaganda are not evidence of truth.