Amazing.
The long nightmare has just begun: Inauguration of a fraud.
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Amazing.
Alate_One
Well-known member
You missed the bit where he seeded the room with staffers that clapped and cheered for the speech.
Official time of Cruc's brain death: 5:04 PM, post 620...leading to post post 622, which indicated no further brainwave activity was present, at 5:07 PM 
lain:
No attempts were made to resuscitate.
lain: No attempts were made to resuscitate.
It helps when you use the quote function, for context and the odd chance that a thing isn't seen in the moment for whatever reason. It's not hard:
Depends on your perspective and your sense of humor. I'll mark that down as a "no" then.
No, I didn't vote for Trump.
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ok doser
lifeguard at the cement pond
Amazing again.
annabenedetti
like marbles on glass
:freak:
annabenedetti
like marbles on glass
Yes they are.
"The 14th Amendment to the United States Constitution provides that "all persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside."[31] The phrase "subject to the jurisdiction thereof" excludes children born to foreign diplomats and children born to enemy forces engaged in hostile occupation of the country's territory.[32]"
1Mind1Spirit
Literal lunatic
"Anchor babies" and their parents are not subject to the jurisdiction past the expiration of their green cards or work visas, at which time they are deemed illegal trespassers.
The parents are merely visiting aliens never citizens under jurisdiction.
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annabenedetti
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Babies born here other than those exceptions noted - are citizens by law.
ok doser
lifeguard at the cement pond
it's in debate - it hinges on "not subject to other powers" - if the parents are still citizens of other countries which extend citizenship to the child, then the child would have dual citizenship and be excluded
google it
eta: this is the part of the birther debate that interested me - if bammy had dual citizenship through his kenyan/british father, then he was a dually, which made "natural-born" questionable
and then there's his Indonesian father and possible triple citizenship or renounced american citizenship
the Hawaii birth certificate nonsense was just smoke and mirrors
drbrumley
Well-known member
And that needs to change.
annabenedetti
like marbles on glass
If it wasn't already the case, they wouldn't be trying to change it.
When Congress considered legislation in 1995 to end automatic citizenship for children born to people who entered the U.S. illegally, opponents said it would contradict U.S. constitutional history and tradition and said the 14th Amendment established a “bright-line” principle that being born on American soil makes one a U.S. citizen.
The amendment was passed in response to the 1856 Dred Scott decision by the U.S. Supreme Court that found that no person of African descent could ever become a citizen, and was upheld in 1898 by the court in a challenge to the Chinese Exclusion Act, which prohibited anyone of Chinese ancestry from remaining in the country.
Defending the principle in an NPR interview in 2010, former assistant attorney general and acting solicitor general Walter Dellinger traced it to America’s racial history and immigrant identity.
“We believe in a clean slate principle” and that “whatever questions there are about the legitimacy of parents or grandparents, in our country, you get a clean slate,” Dellinger said. “Every new child who is born here is simply and indisputably an American. And that is part of our almost unique national identity.”
The amendment was passed in response to the 1856 Dred Scott decision by the U.S. Supreme Court that found that no person of African descent could ever become a citizen, and was upheld in 1898 by the court in a challenge to the Chinese Exclusion Act, which prohibited anyone of Chinese ancestry from remaining in the country.
Defending the principle in an NPR interview in 2010, former assistant attorney general and acting solicitor general Walter Dellinger traced it to America’s racial history and immigrant identity.
“We believe in a clean slate principle” and that “whatever questions there are about the legitimacy of parents or grandparents, in our country, you get a clean slate,” Dellinger said. “Every new child who is born here is simply and indisputably an American. And that is part of our almost unique national identity.”
annabenedetti
like marbles on glass
Why?
1Mind1Spirit
Literal lunatic
You really should stop.
A liberal idiot who believes in the clean slate principle does not clear up or nullify the meaning of "not subject to other powers".
If he's still there as a left over from Bama, he oughtta be fired now instead of waiting to be replaced also.
The Berean
Well-known member
Did you just compare Trump to Teddy Roosevelt? :freak:
Not exactly. I continued to use a connection on the point that I started with anna a bit ago. I don't think he's much like Roosevelt, but I think he fashions himself after the model. A lot of modern politicians have, one way or the other...and all of the populists. He was the first president to make substantive use of address aimed at the people on policy and against Congress. Before him, political speech making was mostly broad strokes for the people and particulars for the Hill.
Just did a Google out of curiosity. Teddy Roosevelt and Trump. Got a bit over half a million hits, including Forbes, Politico, and the National Review, some reacting to the former speaker, some looking at it with a squint. It's the use of media, populism and nationalism that ties them. Methodology and manifest destiny, so to speak. Substantively they're completely different.
ClimateSanity
New member
Here is trumps attitude toward the old established order embodied in Peter Gabriel's character. I like it.