The Late Great Urantia Revelation

[freelight]

only the Spirit is Life..........words are only words.....

only the Spirit is Life..........words are only words.....

The Urantia Book doesn't claim to be the Word of God, neither did the Bible authors, that was an institutional claim. The UB says God is the Word, and the Word is Living. When we petrify living truth it dies.

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On the Spirit of God gives life or rather is life,....we recognize that. Words are only descriptions, pointers, articulators of intellectual and spiritual ideas, ideals, truths, principles, values, etc. Since GT and others refuse to consider, read or research the content of the papers for themselves, they choose wilfull ignorance under the stubbornness of religious pride, even haughtiness in worship of the inerrancy of a particular collection of books as God's only word, as if it were perfect or final (it becoming an 'idol'),....which it is not since there is ever ongoing 'progressive revelation' and learning, plus new dispensations of light, as long as man is evolving, growing, developing, being transformed, expanded in consciousness.



pj

 

[Grosnick Marowbe]

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On the Spirit of God gives life or rather is life,....we recognize that. Words are only descriptions, pointers, articulators of intellectual and spiritual ideas, ideals, truths, principles, values, etc. Since GT and others refuse to consider, read or research the content of the papers for themselves, they choose wilfull ignorance under the stubbornness of religious pride, even haughtiness in worship of the inerrancy of a particular collection of books as God's only word, as if it were perfect or final (it becoming an 'idol'),....which it is not since there is ever ongoing 'progressive revelation' and learning, plus new dispensations of light, as long as man is evolving, growing, developing, being transformed, expanded in consciousness.



pj

Gained any converts lately? It would be best to concentrate on the UFO stuff. People enjoy that part of any cult, I'm sure.

 

[freelight]

Scientology....no comparison.....

Scientology....no comparison.....

How are they different than you? Would you mind explaining?

Good question,...since the 'mentality' at work is dedicated to a 'cult' doctrine of its own posing as some model of ultimate truth, having the same "we're the one and only true way" belief-system,...that is if any of these religionists are claiming that their way is the best or only path to salvation. Scientology and the UB have nothing in common, since the former is a religious cult, while the latter is a compilation of 196 papers with no formal cult built around it, except for a Foundation serving as a trustee and publisher of the book. That's it, there is no formal 'church'. The UB like the Bible or any other religious text is freely available for any truth-seeker to accept or reject.





pj

 

[God's Truth]

Matthew 15:24 Jesus states: "But he answered and said, I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel."
His earthly Message was the "Kingdom Message" and it was only for Israel, not the gentiles.

There is only one message that saves, and it is for everyone.
First to the Jew, then to the Gentile.

 

[God's Truth]

That was written by a Jew, they have a rather high opinion of themselves. All men and women of the earth are Gods children. The Zionist are just another arrogant bunch deluded by the "chosen people" syndrome, but you can kiss their back side if it pleases you, I don't.

Jesus came first for those who already belonged to God by faith. They were God's, but when Jesus started his earthly ministry, they had to go through Jesus to remain God's.

 

[God's Truth]

The Urantia Book doesn't claim to be the Word of God, neither did the Bible authors, that was an institutional claim. The UB says God is the Word, and the Word is Living. When we petrify living truth it dies.

Your book was written by men who made a lot of mistakes.

 

[God's Truth]

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On the Spirit of God gives life or rather is life,....we recognize that. Words are only descriptions, pointers, articulators of intellectual and spiritual ideas, ideals, truths, principles, values, etc. Since GT and others refuse to consider, read or research the content of the papers for themselves, they choose wilfull ignorance under the stubbornness of religious pride, even haughtiness in worship of the inerrancy of a particular collection of books as God's only word, as if it were perfect or final (it becoming an 'idol'),....which it is not since there is ever ongoing 'progressive revelation' and learning, plus new dispensations of light, as long as man is evolving, growing, developing, being transformed, expanded in consciousness.



pj

Satan has left you with no other way to defend his false doctrines. You have to insult because you do not have truth.

 

[God's Truth]

Good question,...since the 'mentality' at work is dedicated to a 'cult' doctrine of its own posing as some model of ultimate truth, having the same "we're the one and only true way" belief-system,...that is if any of these religionists are claiming that their way is the best or only path to salvation. Scientology and the UB have nothing in common, since the former is a religious cult, while the latter is a compilation of 196 papers with no formal cult built around it, except for a Foundation serving as a trustee and publisher of the book. That's it, there is no formal 'church'. The UB like the Bible or any other religious text is freely available for any truth-seeker to accept or reject.
pj

You both are in falseness. You both will not believe what is plainly written.

The scriptures are clear, yet you both do not see it and fight against it.

 

[Grosnick Marowbe]

Hey Freelight and Caino, how's your UFO business coming along? Have
you visited any new planets lately? Heard any voices from your "Cosmic
leadership?" How many Galaxies have you guys visited in the last decade?

Do you guys hand out "Unearthly Metallic Business Cards," that glow in the
dark? Do they come with a secret decoder ring and laser weapon?

 

[Grosnick Marowbe]

I'll tell you how to make some extra cash! Offer UFO rides to other planets
in our Solar System and beyond? Ask your "Galactic leaders" if that would
be feasible?

 

[Grosnick Marowbe]

Aren't you guys having a convention on Mars in November?

 

[Caino]

Your book was written by men who made a lot of mistakes.

The Urantia Book reveals a great many historic facts that were lost or deliberately destroyed by the Old Testiment redactors.

We now have the entire story of the life of Jesus which contains the original gospel.

 

[Caino]

For Ben Mazda, Gods covenant with Abraham through Melchizedek:

http://truthbook.com/urantia-book/paper-93-machiventa-melchizedek

 

[God's Truth]

The Urantia Book reveals a great many historic facts that were lost or deliberately destroyed by the Old Testiment redactors.

We now have the entire story of the life of Jesus which contains the original gospel.

The men who brought you that information made a lot of mistakes.

 

[Caino]

The men who brought you that information made a lot of mistakes.

Oh, have you read the Urantia Book or just googled something?

 

[Caino]

ERRONEOUS IDEAS OF GOD



4:5.1 "Religious tradition is the imperfectly preserved record of the experiences of the God-knowing men of past ages, but such records are untrustworthy as guides for religious living or as the source of true information about the Universal Father. Such ancient beliefs have been invariably altered by the fact that primitive man was a mythmaker.

4:5.2 One of the greatest sources of confusion on Urantia concerning the nature of God grows out of the failure of your sacred books clearly to distinguish between the personalities of the Paradise Trinity and between Paradise Deity and the local universe creators and administrators. During the past dispensations of partial understanding, your priests and prophets failed clearly to differentiate between Planetary Princes, System Sovereigns, Constellation Fathers, Creator Sons, Superuniverse Rulers, the Supreme Being, and the Universal Father. Many of the messages of subordinate personalities, such as Life Carriers and various orders of angels, have been, in your records, presented as coming from God himself. Urantian religious thought still confuses the associate personalities of Deity with the Universal Father himself, so that all are included under one appellation.

Storm in the mountains by Albert Bierstadt 4:5.3 The people of Urantia continue to suffer from the influence of primitive concepts of God. The gods who go on a rampage in the storm; who shake the earth in their wrath and strike down men in their anger; who inflict their judgments of displeasure in times of famine and flood—these are the gods of primitive religion; they are not the Gods who live and rule the universes. Such concepts are a relic of the times when men supposed that the universe was under the guidance and domination of the whims of such imaginary gods. But mortal man is beginning to realize that he lives in a realm of comparative law and order as far as concerns the administrative policies and conduct of the Supreme Creators and the Supreme Controllers.

4:5.4 The barbarous idea of appeasing an angry God, of propitiating an offended Lord, of winning the favor of Deity through sacrifices and penance and even by the shedding of blood, represents a religion wholly puerile and primitive, a philosophy unworthy of an enlightened age of science and truth. Such beliefs are utterly repulsive to the celestial beings and the divine rulers who serve and reign in the universes. It is an affront to God to believe, hold, or teach that innocent blood must be shed in order to win his favor or to divert the fictitious divine wrath.

4:5.5 The Hebrews believed that "without the shedding of blood there could be no remission of sin." They had not found deliverance from the old and pagan idea that the Gods could not be appeased except by the sight of blood, though Moses did make a distinct advance when he forbade human sacrifices and substituted therefor, in the primitive minds of his childlike Bedouin followers, the ceremonial sacrifice of animals.

4:5.6 The bestowal of a Paradise Son on your world was inherent in the situation of closing a planetary age; it was inescapable, and it was not made necessary for the purpose of winning the favor of God. This bestowal also happened to be the final personal act of a Creator Son in the long adventure of earning the experiential sovereignty of his universe. What a travesty upon the infinite character of God! this teaching that his fatherly heart in all its austere coldness and hardness was so untouched by the misfortunes and sorrows of his creatures that his tender mercies were not forthcoming until he saw his blameless Son bleeding and dying upon the cross of Calvary!

4:5.7 But the inhabitants of Urantia are to find deliverance from these ancient errors and pagan superstitions respecting the nature of the Universal Father. The revelation of the truth about God is appearing, and the human race is destined to know the Universal Father in all that beauty of character and loveliness of attributes so magnificently portrayed by the Creator Son who sojourned on Urantia as the Son of Man and the Son of God."

4:5.8 [Presented by a Divine Counselor of Uversa.]
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[God's Truth]

Oh, have you read the Urantia Book or just googled something?

The men who brought the Urantia book made mistakes. You are putting your trust in those men. You are trying to claim the men who brought you your book are blameless and infallible.

 

[Caino]

The men who brought the Urantia book made mistakes. You are putting your trust in those men. You are trying to claim the men who brought you your book are blameless and infallible.

You didn't answer the question, have your read the Urantia Book? I have read the Bible and still do it often.

 

[God's Truth]

You didn't answer the question, have your read the Urantia Book? I have read the Bible and still do it often.

Are you now claiming that men do not make mistakes? You said earlier that the Holy Bible was full of errors and that those who wrote it made mistakes. They are only mere men, after all. Are you saying the men who brought you your book are not beyond mistakes?

 

[Caino]

Are you now claiming that men do not make mistakes? You said earlier that the Holy Bible was full of errors and that those who wrote it made mistakes. They are only mere men, after all. Are you saying the men who brought you your book are not beyond mistakes?

You are evading the question. Have you read the Urantia Book?