how long did you stay?
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how long did you stay?
KingdomRose
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I think most of the people here would like to see your response to my question about how the RCC justifies the Crusades, the Inquisition and the Borgias. Those are just three items on a long list. Can't you defend those three things? It would be very interesting to everybody.
KingdomRose
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So what? Didn't Jesus say that there would be religious leaders that would tell him how much they did for him, and yet they were really "workers of lawlessness"? Didn't he say that he would tell them, "I never knew you"?
MATTHEW 7:21-23
KingdomRose
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I don't side with Nihilo, but I have to reply to this. Let's see...where did Jesus say that some would be alive when he returned?
Matthew 16:28? "Truly I say to you that there are some of those standing here that will not taste death at all until first they see the Son of man coming in his kingdom."
No, this couldn't be it, because the very next few verses show the fulfillment of what he said. Peter, James and John saw Jesus' TRANSFIGURATION....which showed them Jesus' heavenly status as he would come, in the future, in Kingdom power.
How about John 11:25,26? "Jesus said to [Martha]: 'I am the resurrection and the life. He that exercises faith in me even though he dies, will come to life; and everyone that is living and exercises faith in me will never die at all.'"
Yes. But of course if you look closely, you will see that he said they would NEVER die. So what does this mean? He meant that when he came again---in the future some time---there would be those alive THEN that would never die because they would be protected from harm during the Great Tribulation and go right into Paradise under Jesus' Millennial Reign. So Jesus was right; he wasn't misinformed. Some in the near future, that have faith in him now, will go right on living when he comes again. You and I are undoubtedly in this group.
So everyone is dead that Jesus preached to directly, but not his followers NOW.
Now, as far as John saying that Jesus would return "soon," what is "soon" to God? It was God giving him the information, wasn't it? Through Christ? One day is like a thousand to God, and a thousand years as one day. (2 Peter 3:8; Psalm 90:4)
KingdomRose
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No, not at all. The disciples thought that is what he might have said, but they were wrong...as they were on other things.
KingdomRose
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You follow a man who makes himself out to be God, as described at 2 Thessalonions 2:4-10. The actions of the leader of the RCC show unequivocably that he places himself on a par with God, because he claims to be infallible, he claims to be the vicar of Christand he accepts acts of worship that should go only to the Father, God.
are you talking about Jesus?
KingdomRose
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But you see...when some religion is making itself out to be the true representative of God and yet its works are bloody and deceitful, it is an actual DUTY of true Christians to reveal its hypocrisy. Otherwise, how are the people in that religion going to be helped? The Bible tells those in false religion to GET OUT OF HER. They must be warned.
Revelation [Apocalypse] 18:4
When non-Catholics or non-Lutherans or non-Mormons (or non-any of the world's false religions) see what those religions have done.....how can we not say something?
KingdomRose
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I wouldn't say that that is the position of most people who oppose the RCC and others. Speaking for myself, I have merely observed in historical literature (e.g., any encyclopedia, dozens of books), documentaries, and now current events that are splashed all over news media, and it's easy to draw conclusions concerning the hypocrisy of the RCC and others.
Why did you remain silent when these atrocities took place?
so what do you believe?
KingdomRose
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Do you not think that the demons have a great deal of power to deceive whomever they wish? Over a billion just might have fallen prey to those crafty fallen angels.
"Satan himself keeps transforming himself into an angel of light." (2 Corinthians 11:14)
KingdomRose
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I think you have been misled by the RCC's trinity doctrine. Protestants kept all of the false doctrines of the RCC when they split off for political reasons.
KingdomRose
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What are those members of your religion doing for the good of the people? Abortion and homosexual-equality laws are absolutely AGAINST Christian teachings! Yet they rule in favor of those things!
Yes JWs Mormons etc is proof of the deceptive power of demons
most of them voted against both