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john w

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the church Jesus built on a rock

More continued punting, misdirection, evasion.

-it is not the churches interpretation of paul"-you

I asked:

Again-just who comprises "the church?" Source authority for your answer?


You respond:
"the church Jesus built on a rock"

Non responsive. I did not ask that. I asked:


-who comprises "the church?"

- Source authority for your answer?
 

john w

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the church gave you scripture
-and now you use your interpretation of it against the church

Made up:

Exodus 9:16 KJV And in very deed for this cause have I raised thee up, for to shew in thee my power; and that my name may be declared throughout all the earth.


Romans 9:17 For the scripture saith unto Pharaoh, Even for this same purpose have I raised thee up, that I might shew my power in thee, and that my name might be declared throughout all the earth.


You: The Roman Catholic "Church," way back in Exodus, gave us the scripture, as it predated "The Flintstones"...............


Deception....lies.....of the Roman Catholic Organization/chrysostom...
 

john w

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we just don't agree with your interpretation
-that does not make us liars

1. Who is this "we," ask I asked?

2. No, I caught you in a lie:


I believe we are all part of the body of Christ.




Caught, in a lie...


vs.

I am arguing that you are not the church so you have no authority-only the church has authority.








But you asserted that members of the boc have no authority.Who does?


the head of the church.

Vs.

I am arguing that you are not the church so you have no authority-only the church has authority.

So, out of one side of your mouth, you argue that members of the boc, the church, have authority, and, out of the other, only the head of the church does.

You lied, and don't even know your own argument.
 

chrysostom

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1. Who is this "we," ask I asked?

2. No, I caught you in a lie:






Caught, in a lie...


vs.












Vs.



So, out of one side of your mouth, you argue that members of the boc, the church, have authority, and, out of the other, only the head of the church does.

You lied, and don't even know your own argument.

calling someone a liar is not an argument
 

Right Divider

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who told you that?
It's easy to learn this if you're not blinded by a false faith in the RCC.

Matt 16:18 (AKJV/PCE)
(16:18) And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.

This is Peter's name:
G4074 Πέτρος Petros (pe'-tros) n/p.
1. a (piece of) rock.
2. as a name, Petrus, an apostle.
{larger than G3037}
[apparently a primary word]
KJV: Peter, rock
Compare: G3037, G2786

This is the ROCK on which Christ will build His church:
G4073 πέτρα petra (pe'-tra) n.
1. (properly) a mass of solid rock (such as a solidly massive foundation or as jutting upward for hewing out a large family chamber tomb).
2. (person) The Solid Rock (of Ages), Jesus, Yeshua.
3. (Note) The solid rock is in distinct contrast to a piece of rock or a rock fragment.
{literally or figuratively}
[feminine of the same as G4074]
 

chrysostom

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It's easy to learn this if you're not blinded by a false faith in the RCC.

Matt 16:18 (AKJV/PCE)
(16:18) And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.

This is Peter's name:
G4074 Πέτρος Petros (pe'-tros) n/p.
1. a (piece of) rock.
2. as a name, Petrus, an apostle.
{larger than G3037}
[apparently a primary word]
KJV: Peter, rock
Compare: G3037, G2786

This is the ROCK on which Christ will build His church:
G4073 πέτρα petra (pe'-tra) n.
1. (properly) a mass of solid rock (such as a solidly massive foundation or as jutting upward for hewing out a large family chamber tomb).
2. (person) The Solid Rock (of Ages), Jesus, Yeshua.
3. (Note) The solid rock is in distinct contrast to a piece of rock or a rock fragment.
{literally or figuratively}
[feminine of the same as G4074]

And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church
 

chrysostom

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Post #3669. You were caught in 2 lies, in your argument.

I showed that you contradicted yourself, in your argument, so stuff your misdirection.

allow me to repeat myself
-you are not the church
-only the head of the church has the authority
-that is the pope
 

john w

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