beloved57
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Post 1159 .Whats the point Im making there using the scripture ?
The Atonement: What did it REALLY Accomplish?
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Post 1159 .Whats the point Im making there using the scripture ?
Nanja
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I believe your point is this:
All those who are Christ's Sheep Mat. 25:34, God condemned their sins and unbelief in His Son for them Rom. 5:10; 8:3, so He draws them to Christ John 6:44 who brings them to Faith in Him 1 Pet. 3:18, quickening them by His Spirit, so they can Hear His voice and follow Him.
Epoisses
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Yes the subjective gospel is true. The objective gospel of Christ's perfect atonement for all sin on the cross is true as well. Calvinists reject the writings of John due to their narrow and limited view of predestination.
musterion
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Prosopon!
Epoisses
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What the frack does that mean!
beloved57
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Post 1159 .Whats the point Im making there using the scripture ?
beloved57
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It saved them from the penalty of their sins!
False religion can't accept this tremendous Gospel Truth which is this, every sinner Christ died for, or tasted death for, they have been saved from the penalty of their sins, Heb 1:3
Who being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high:
This purging of their sins is a completed perfect work Deut 32:4!
The word purge here is the greek word katharismos:
cleansing, purifying, purification, literal, ceremonial, or moral; met: expiation.
a cleansing from the guilt of sins
That is the guilt they contracted in Adam, and then their own personal sins guilt!The guilt acquired by sinning against Gods moral law.The Penal law has been satisfied for them by His God Honoring purging Death!
False religion can't accept this tremendous Gospel Truth which is this, every sinner Christ died for, or tasted death for, they have been saved from the penalty of their sins, Heb 1:3
Who being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high:
This purging of their sins is a completed perfect work Deut 32:4!
The word purge here is the greek word katharismos:
cleansing, purifying, purification, literal, ceremonial, or moral; met: expiation.
a cleansing from the guilt of sins
That is the guilt they contracted in Adam, and then their own personal sins guilt!The guilt acquired by sinning against Gods moral law.The Penal law has been satisfied for them by His God Honoring purging Death!
Nanja
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Amen, it absolutely has!
Christ's Death for His Elect Eph. 1:4 or His Sheep Is. 53:6 was Perfect in that it took away their sins and all guilt associated with them perfectly and permanently Rom. 4:7-8. They need do nothing, in or of themselves, contrary to what false religion teaches, because by Christ's Death alone on their behalf, they stand Legally Justified in God's sight Rom. 5:9-10, so they could never die in their sins in unbelief as others do John 8:24.
Rom. 8:33
Who shall lay any thing to the charge of God's elect? It is God that justifieth.
beloved57
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False comment !
beloved57
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Those Christ died for are reconciled to God while they are enemies Rom 5:10 so you are lying !
Epoisses
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The whole world was reconciled to God while we were enemies.
Therefore as by the offence of one judgment came upon all men to condemnation; even so by the righteousness of one the free gift came upon all men unto justification of life - Rom. 5:18
Nanja
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FALSE!
For there are those who were already condemned John 3:18, 36.
Those who were ordained to condemnation Jude 1:4
The goats which were cursed from everlasting Mat 25:41
Those who were prepared for destruction Rom. 9:22
Those who go into the second death Rev. 21:8
The wicked God made for the day of evil Prov. 16:4
beloved57
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epo
More Lying, because some people are under Gods condemnation and wrath Jn 3:18,36 and because those who are reconciled to God by Christs death while being enemies have this promise Rom 5:10
[FONT="]For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more,being reconciled, we shall be saved by his life.
Now will the whole world be saved by Christ's Life as promised here ? Yes or No ? If no, then you are found to be a liar ![/FONT]
More Lying, because some people are under Gods condemnation and wrath Jn 3:18,36 and because those who are reconciled to God by Christs death while being enemies have this promise Rom 5:10
[FONT="]For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more,being reconciled, we shall be saved by his life.
Now will the whole world be saved by Christ's Life as promised here ? Yes or No ? If no, then you are found to be a liar ![/FONT]
beloved57
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Epoisses
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What a sick and twisted theology you have! You actually relish the idea of God cursing sinners.
Epoisses
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Two goats and reprobates who have no faith. Not everyone who says lord, lord.
beloved57
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What about those lies you were caught in post 1175 ?